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IOS8 slowed my iPad3 down so much I can't stand using it anymore, and I began to question why I even had one.

While I welcome any attempt by Apple to optimize and improve the user experience in IOS, but I think anything they do will be lost on my iPad because it's hampered by only 1GB RAM and a slow processor.

I've moved on to a MacBook Pro, which does most everything I want my iPad to do, with the additional benefit of being fully OSX and a great productivity enhancer when I'm away from my Mac Pro.

Edit to add: I absolutely welcome any IOS optimization improvements on my iPhone 6, which I plan on keeping for a long time.

IOS 8 runs great on my iPad 3. Nice try.
 
Having gone from 10.6 directly to 10.9 last year, I can tell you Mavericks is no Snow Leopard. Disk access in particular is much worse; it takes far longer to boot up to a usable state.

--Eric

Very subjective. Your personal experience with a specific issue does not represent the majority. I have not heard of similar satires before and thus conclude your issues are unique to you.
 
i hope i'm more impressed by this than i was by snow leopard at the time... and wasn't iOS8 already a massively underwhelming update. people i know still haven't updated. I want dark mode dammit! especially for texting:mad:
 
Let's be honest, it still will make the iPhone 6 run slower than it currently does under iOS 8. Apple's near criminal policy of forcing people to waste space downloading huge updates that make their devices slower when installed should just go.
 
In all honesty, they still might. If as this rumors predicts and iOS 9 is mainly focused on stability and optimization improvements, then iOS 9 could be the Windows 7 on the iOS platform. What I mean by this is that the like in the Windows platform, the hardware requirements for Windows 7 was lower than that of Vista; we might see the same thing happen here if this rumor is true, so iOS9 may well support the 4S.

Well, since iOS 9 is the "cleanup" of iOS 8, it would be kind of Apple not to leave 4S owners stranded on the bug-infested island of iOS 8.
 
I hope I'm not the only person that thinks EVERY software release should focus heavily on stability and optimisation? Sure every single release should have the priority in the following order:

1. Let's make sure what we've got now works 100% flawlessly
2. New stuff
3. Whatever else
 
It sounds like it might run on the iPod Touch 5.

That would help iPad 2, iPad 3, iPhone 4S, and iPad mini users. Fingers crossed!

In all honesty, they still might. If as this rumors predicts and iOS 9 is mainly focused on stability and optimization improvements, then iOS 9 could be the Windows 7 on the iOS platform. What I mean by this is that the like in the Windows platform, the hardware requirements for Windows 7 was lower than that of Vista; we might see the same thing happen here if this rumor is true, so iOS9 may well support the 4S.

Wonder if this will buck the trend and they'll make it so that all phones that can run 8 will be able to run 9...

You guys all seem to forget that while Snow Leopard was billed as "a better Leopard", it did drop support for a slew of machines that otherwise ran Leopard just fine. Apple is bending backwards to keep the A5 running iOS 8 somewhat reasonably and their efforts are (a) not working out well and (b) not enough for the future. It's more likely that Apple will make the cut-off 64-bit devices only than it is that A5 will be allowed to the party (and, for the record, I do believe that a 64-bit cutoff is also pretty unlikely).

A6 will be the minimum; the iPhone 5 and 5c and the fourth generation iPads will choke in the ways that the iPad 2, third generation iPad, fifth generation iPod touch, first generation iPad mini, and the iPhone 4s did on iOS 8 and how the iPhone 4 did with iOS 7. That's how it goes; this will be no different.

The most important thing that you are all forgetting about Snow Leopard was that it built in a slew of forward-looking technologies into OS X that set it up for the decade thereafter. For the same to happen with iOS, odds are slim that anything with an A5 will be able to run it and similarly slim that anything with an A6 will even be able to take advantage of any new technologies, just as a Core Solo Mac mini was allowed to run Snow Leopard, but didn't get to experience a lot of the underlying technologies that set it apart from Leopard.

I dunno, if Apple follows in the steps of Snow Leopard I wouldn't be surprised if they dropped older devices just like they dropped PowerPC support.

See, this guy knows what's up!

This must be why A5 devices are still sold.

A5 devices are still sold because Apple wants to make money. Not because Apple has a rosy future planned for them.
 
HALLELUYAH!

We need another Snow Leopard type of release, both on the Mac and on iOS.

Agreed one million percent! Snow Leopard was the last very stable version of OS X, with OS X Lion, the operating system became a bloated mess with serious performance issues. Mavericks attempted to clean up the mess, and succeeded somewhat, but Yosemite still feels sluggish.

Now that OS X and iOS have been brought closely together enough, Apple can afford to release a version of OS X that focuses solely on stability and performance, and does not add (m)any new features. My suggestion would be to go onto a "tick-tock" schedule, with a major release that adds new functionality, followed by a maintenance release that tightens the code and resolves stability and performance issues.
 
I hope I'm not the only person that thinks EVERY software release should focus heavily on stability and optimisation? Sure every single release should have the priority in the following order:

1. Let's make sure what we've got now works 100% flawlessly
2. New stuff
3. Whatever else
No you're not the only one. But there is a significant percentage of iOS device owners who have not experienced any problems whatsoever....they believe things are ALREADY stable and optimized... that because they themselves have not experienced any issues therefore any experience to the contrary is :
A. the result of drama queens engaging in histrionics
B. trolls stirring the pot of controversy
C. newbs who don't understand how their device is supposed to work


Many of us who are encouraged by this supposed proclamation of focus on stability and optimization are so because:
A. it will result in better performing devices
B. Confirmation that things AREN'T currently rainbows and unicorns
 
I hope I'm not the only person that thinks EVERY software release should focus heavily on stability and optimisation? Sure every single release should have the priority in the following order:

1. Let's make sure what we've got now works 100% flawlessly
2. New stuff
3. Whatever else

I agree. Being a software quality engineer really makes me "feel" these buggy releases. I hate that. :D

I do hope that iOS 9 does take care of all of these niggling issues before jamming more dubious features into the software. Please fix the stuff. :)
 
Lot of revisionist posts here. Does anyone actually remember how buggy Snow Leopard was at launch? The final revision (10.6.8) that a lot of people now hold up as some gold standard of speed and stability did not come out until 22 months after launch.

I remember how Snow Leopard broke a huge number of applications, a lot more than Leopard or Tiger did. And the early versions of Snow Leopard had one of the more serious OS X bugs, where user directories would get deleted after logging into a Guest account. That bug actually lost user data and took nearly three months before it got fixed.

Yes, Snow Leopard is a great OS that I still use everyday. But, people seem to have forgotten how problematic the early versions were, and just how many applications Snow Leopard broke.
 
It's time for OS number parity! Forget iOS 9, just call it iOS X. Just like OS X.

And then Apple will take the bull by the horns, showing the entire industry they won't be confined by simple, crude, rudimentary numbering schemes. No one in the industry can match their bravery to completely skip an OS number and.... hold on... wait... oops. Never mind.
 
Lot of revisionist posts here. Does anyone actually remember how buggy Snow Leopard was at launch? The final revision (10.6.8) that a lot of people now hold up as some gold standard of speed and stability did not come out until 22 months after launch.

I remember how Snow Leopard broke a huge number of applications, a lot more than Leopard or Tiger did. And the early versions of Snow Leopard had one of the more serious OS X bugs, where user directories would get deleted after logging into a Guest account. That bug actually lost user data and took nearly three months before it got fixed.

Yes, Snow Leopard is a great OS that I still use everyday. But, people seem to have forgotten how problematic the early versions were, and just how many applications Snow Leopard broke.

Very true, especially the 10.6.0-10.6.2. I do remember how bad they were and the app issues. By 10.6.3 though it started getting very very stable, and became the best OS Apple ever made.

Part of this is also not releasing a new OS each year.

Mavericks to me was overall very good though and was the completed vision of what Lion started (which was their worst OS in a long time).

Yosemite has been very good to me, and is the most stable OS for a .0-.2 release I ever had with Apple. However, I do know there are bugs widespread for people I mostly have had a good experience.
 
Yes yes yes yes !!! I've been predicting this for a while - very excited to here this. It mightn't mean that it can run on A5 devices if stability and performance is improved.
 
A5 devices are still sold because Apple wants to make money. Not because Apple has a rosy future planned for them.

Why would they drop A5 if iOS 9 improves performance AND they're still selling the chip, it's more likely all A5 devices get iOS 8 than it being 64-bit only as the iPhone 5c exists. The way the 2014 lineup is set up suggests Apple wants to support it longer or the Mini 1 wouldn't be there.
 
Agreed one million percent! Snow Leopard was the last very stable version of OS X, with OS X Lion, the operating system became a bloated mess with serious performance issues. Mavericks attempted to clean up the mess, and succeeded somewhat, but Yosemite still feels sluggish.

Now that OS X and iOS have been brought closely together enough, Apple can afford to release a version of OS X that focuses solely on stability and performance, and does not add (m)any new features. My suggestion would be to go onto a "tick-tock" schedule, with a major release that adds new functionality, followed by a maintenance release that tightens the code and resolves stability and performance issues.

So, you mean Apple should take another 18 months to fix the OS like... Snow Leopard... (instead of the 1 year it will take for IOS 8!) OK then.. Yes, as someone said, revisionist history.

MS's Windows 8 and its been released a long long time ago and still has a big number of bugs (my network performance is pathetic). And well, Android... Oh, lets not talk about them...
 
What did I tell ya :-

- iOS 6 - really unstable
- iOS 7 - somewhat stable, increased performance
- iOS 8 - better stability

Its just like the desktops OS's... Betime Apple gets to the end to of an iteration .x of an OS, everything then "just works"

Everything else before that is just a pile of crap just hoping it will work someday.
 
Very subjective. Your personal experience with a specific issue does not represent the majority. I have not heard of similar satires before and thus conclude your issues are unique to you.

No, there have been many posts from many people with various issues with 10.9. I thus conclude that you haven't been reading the forums here (or, in fact, anywhere) with any attention. Nobody ever claimed that Mavericks was a "Snow Leopard"; it wasn't marketed as such and nobody got that impression from it. But there are countless calls for Apple to do another Snow Leopard-type upgrade, which wouldn't be happening if 10.9 already did that.

--Eric
 
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