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Exchange email is messed up too. You can't delete or move messages. I have to use Outlook email because the Apple built in one is useless.
 
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POP is a relic of the past, one that Microsoft foisted on their users for far too long.

Outlook is a good alternative to Mail.

I disagree. All my emails don't need to go through Microsoft's servers, which is how their Outlook app works. Although, for those that actually tolerate Hotmail/Live/Outlook.com, then that's probably the least of their worries.
 
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I've long had the impression that Apple is hostile to POP mail and trying to force users to Apple's own servers in particular. I like my own mail server under my control that filters mail my way.
 
So called, "under the hood" fix claimed by Apple. You're just a liar who trying to get people to upgrade with one "flashy" feature. Or maybe more. Anyhow..stop advertising us to upgrade.
 
POP 4EVR!

I need a local, searchable backup/history of ALL my work email, going back years, and I need it in MY control, not some service provider. POP.

My Mac (Mail app) is the master repository (and the one with extra spam-handling), and once I get a message there it's deleted from the server so my iPhone/iPad inbox can stay lean.

iPhone/iPad can check for new mail (manually works best for me) so I'm not reliant on the Mac for seeing new messages; but deleting from mobile doesn't delete from server, it just keeps my mobile inbox lean.

(Outgoing mobile emails get BCC'd to me, and the Mac Mail app automatically routes them silently to my local Sent archive.)

In short: once I got things set up nicely, I can do what ever I want to manage my email with my iPhone/iPad (keep a lot, chuck it all, whatever), and it doesn't matter: the Mac still has a searchable history of EVERYTHING, without me having to think about it.

I also set my "other Macs" up the same way as my iPhone/iPad. They're not the "master copy," but they can view and send with no harm done.

And luckily, I haven't had a problem with iOS 9. (Only received 1 attachment that I can think of, though.)
 
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POP3? What is this, 1996?

...Granted -- knowing him (because it's a "City of Los Angeles" employee phone) its software itself is wayyyyyy outdated...

Sheeeeeit, if you know what sort of hardware the COUNTY of L.A. is running... you'd move out of California, so I ain't telling you. But damn...
 
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POP is a relic of the past, one that Microsoft foisted on their users for far too long.

What a hilarious statement. Microsoft has nothing to do with POP3.

I disagree. All my emails don't need to go through Microsoft's servers, which is how their Outlook app works. Although, for those that actually tolerate Hotmail/Live/Outlook.com, then that's probably the least of their worries.

You're confusing Outlook, the service, with Outlook, the program.
 
I've long had the impression that Apple is hostile to POP mail and trying to force users to Apple's own servers in particular. I like my own mail server under my control that filters mail my way.
This Mail problem in iOS9 seems to be bigger than just POP. In my iCloud account, if I'm in airplane mode, I can't open an attachment to a mail message that has been opened many times before. My iPhone 6 insists on downloading it each time which never happened in any version of iOS before the "upgrade" to iOS 9. It makes using my phone off-network (such as on a plane) completely useless for attachments.
 
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Pop is still important to some of us for many reasons... I have a few hundred thousand emails at this point I don't want to sync with a server.

That said, Family and friends are definitely seeing this issue and I see it as quite a showstopper. When my father goes to look at his important emails, they are simply not there. This is pop. They should be on the device.
 
People still use POP mail services?:eek:
Is Hotmail available with IMAP yet??

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Oh boy, time has changed...hotmail is finally available with IMAP on Outlook...except I have to set up all the accounts again and let the email download/sync frenzy begin...
 
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If you use a POP server you have bigger problems than Apple's email client... #imaporbust

There are literally zero reasons for an IT admin to set up a pop server. If your personal email provider doesn't provide IMAP support, switch now and save yourself some hassle. Seriously. If your company won't provide IMAP support for some weird reason then download an alternative email client. There are thousands to pick from. Problem solved #peopleliketocomplain
 
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POP 4EVR!

I need a local, searchable backup/history of ALL my work email, going back years, and I need it in MY control, not some service provider. POP.

My Mac (Mail app) is the master repository (and the one with extra spam-handling), and once I get a message there it's deleted from the server so my iPhone/iPad inbox can stay lean.

iPhone/iPad can check for new mail (manually works best for me) so I'm not reliant on the Mac for seeing new messages; but deleting from mobile doesn't delete from server, it just keeps my mobile inbox lean.

(Outgoing mobile emails get BCC'd to me, and the Mac Mail app automatically routes them silently to my local Sent archive.)

In short: once I got things set up nicely, I can do what ever I want to manage my email with my iPhone/iPad (keep a lot, chuck it all, whatever), and it doesn't matter: the Mac still has a searchable history of EVERYTHING, without me having to think about it.

I also set my "other Macs" up the same way as my iPhone/iPad. They're not the "master copy," but they can view and send with no harm done.

And luckily, I haven't had a problem with iOS 9. (Only received 1 attachment that I can think of, though.)

You get it. Few do.
 
I think it's funny that some people seem to think that not using POP is a choice that others have to make. Newsflash - some people have different use cases and/or situations. Just like in the thread about previous OSX versions disappearing for a bit and some people posting that no one should be using those OSes anyway.
 
Who the hell still uses POP emails and why?




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Since iOS 9 was released to the public on September 16, some users with POP email accounts have been having trouble opening emails with attachments. There's a 22 page thread on the Apple discussion forums covering the issue, which currently has more than 200 replies from users who are all experiencing the same problem.

Customers with a wide range of devices are receiving a "Message not yet downloaded from server" error whenever they attempt to open an email message with an attachment. The problem appears to be affecting Apple customers who have POP email accounts and is causing issues with both new and old emails.Deleting email accounts and adding them back in does not fix the issue, but downloading an alternate email program from the App Store seems to have worked for many users as a temporary fix. Turning off Wi-Fi also allows some users to read their previously downloaded emails and access attachments, but images are not viewable.

One customer experiencing issues received a response from Apple's engineering team, suggesting the email issue occurs when an email account has been configured to remove a copy of emails on the server. This has left some wondering whether the behavior is an intended function or a bug, but while leaving messages on the server solves some of the problem, sent and trash emails remain unaccessible. The requirement to leave messages on the server also defeats the purpose of a POP email account.While these email problems have been plaguing users since iOS 9 was released, Apple did not fix the problem in iOS 9.0.1 or iOS 9.0.2, the two minor bug fix updates that have been released to the public since September 16. It is not clear if iOS 9.1, the first major update to iOS, fixes the issue, and Apple has not given any statement on whether some kind of fix is planned or if there's been an intentional change to the way POP email accounts work on iOS in iOS 9.

Article Link: iOS 9 Users Having Issues With POP Email Accounts and Attachments
 
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The only thing I can think of right now..

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I am also curious as to why pop is still around? Are there any benefits to it?
 
That ship has sailed on this for me a long time ago....

We use IMAP here on iOS here :D

I only use POP on windows machine because all the services i find does not ever do a clean-transfer slate between .pst and imap. Something always goes wrong.
 
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