iOS and Android Combined for Record 99% of Smartphone Sales Last Quarter

[smoledman]

MS killing it. 60% market share on that last 1%!
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Just goes to show how revolutionary, if I may, these new mobile OS's really were at the onset. It was a virtual asteroid strike that had an overwhelming, global change in our environment.

A revolution Steve Ballmer could not see coming. He's the dinosaur wiped out by the asteroid.

 

[mi7chy]

When then are Android smartphone users frequenting a Pro-Apple forum?

A lot of us are open minded and use multiple ecosystems that include Apple from the 80s. Something that you could benefit from instead of being close minded and stereotyping people for using something that you're not of a fanboy of.

 

[smoledman]

Competition is good. I'm surprised One Plus beat Apple to having a haptic home button. I'm in love with this thing! Heck the OP3 screen unlock is faster than iPhone 6S, probably due to lack of animation.

 

[symphara]

You won't believe for what kind of device I ditched my iPhone as only an media device. It has everything I need and helps me to focus and saves me a lot of time. I don't spend my time anymore without sense with this device.
I'm an iPhone user since 2008 but I have to admit that Blackberry is so classy. I'm just loving it.

Hey I had a BB 9900 and I loved it, fantastic phone. I was gutted when it got stolen.

 

[vault]

Not really since the HP is ARM based so doesn't run professional software that Surface Pro can. Surface Phone is expected to be x86-64 based so a pocketable version of Surface Pro. One device that rules them all.

AFAIK Intel quit that market segment completely and there's no one to make a CPU for that supposed phone. Windows fans may be waiting a log time for their holy grail. Too bad, Windows Mobile could be a really nice OS.

 

[Tiger8]

Crazy how quickly Windows phone has just died completely. Microsoft really has seemed to have given up.

I think they are chosing their battles wisely now. The phone maket is owned by android then Apple

 

[smoledman]

I think they are chosing their battles wisely now. The phone maket is owned by android then Apple

Actually Apple owns the revenue 4 to 1 on Google when it comes to App Store. Also 95% of the hardware profits. So market share by unit is irrelevant when most Android devices are cheap and used mostly as feature phones.

 

[symphara]

Actually Apple owns the revenue 4 to 1 on Google when it comes to App Store. Also 95% of the hardware profits. So market share by unit is irrelevant when most Android devices are cheap and used mostly as feature phones.

Since Google makes most of its money from advertising (they don't rely on extortionate percentages from app purchases), the market share is hugely relevant.

Google is doing very well financially from the Android market, and they don't need to rob developers and particularly content creators blind with onerous terms, while crying crocodile tears in the media about how they want to help artists and content creators by having politicians screw up the competition.

 

[ani4ani]

dont make me laugh, you cant be serious? Developers make most of their money on IOS.

Do you really know that? Thing is, if only 1 in 10 android users download an app, that is pretty much the same as 100% of IOS users doing so.
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Actually Apple owns the revenue 4 to 1 on Google when it comes to App Store. Also 95% of the hardware profits. So market share by unit is irrelevant when most Android devices are cheap and used mostly as feature phones.

These statements were never true and certainly not now, given that Samsung's mobile profits last quarter were pretty much on par with stated iPhone performance. Given that 60% or so of the iPhone's hardware is made by Samsung I would argue Samsung are making the most money from smartphone hardware.

 

[ryanwarsaw]

Let's hope the iphone will not result in being the smartphone only for the 1%...

On the bright side if Apple doesn't lower prices it may become a status symbol again. Imagine you go into NYC and people mug you for your outdated white earbuds.
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Keep in mind that there are dozens of brands of phones that run Android, including ones that can be purchased for as little as $50 unlocked and off contract. There is, however, only one brand of iOS phone. Also bear in mind that Apple has never attained much more than 10% in the personal computer market compared to Windows' near 90%.

This is why there isn't much future in a $1,000 phone. As I have said before don't sell me a $1,500 VHS machine. Apple has milked it and good for them but in ten years time I can't imagine buying a $1,000 phone when others are being sold for $20. The technology is mature and the game is almost over.
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Dear Manderby,

Thank you for being our 100th customer this year. My kids are really enjoying the Happy Meal toy that I bought them with the profits from your phone. We look forward to your continued support.

Very Truly Yours,

Satya
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If they ever do a remake of Young Frankenstein Balmer can take over for Peter Boyle.

Make sure to blog about it on your $1,500 iPhone Pro with 32 Gb of storage.

 

[I7guy]

Do you really know that? Thing is, if only 1 in 10 android users download an app, that is pretty much the same as 100% of IOS users doing so.
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These statements were never true and certainly not now, given that Samsung's mobile profits last quarter were pretty much on par with stated iPhone performance. Given that 60% or so of the iPhone's hardware is made by Samsung I would argue Samsung are making the most money from smartphone hardware.

So let's compare the entirety of Samsung's business to Apples mobile phone business. Make sense.

On the bright side if Apple doesn't lower prices it may become a status symbol again. Imagine you go into NYC and people mug you for your outdated white earbuds.
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This is why there isn't much future in a $1,000 phone. As I have said before don't sell me a $1,500 VHS machine. Apple has milked it and good for them but in ten years time I can't imagine buying a $1,000 phone when others are being sold for $20. The technology is mature and the game is almost over.
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Make sure to blog about it on your $1,500 iPhone Pro with 32 Gb of storage.

You can use your $20 phone for mission critical applications. Let's see how support and updates work for you. And what about the $850 price tag for the competition? May not be that now, I saw a promo get the Note 7 for $0 and bogos for the Galaxy Edge 7. Wonder why?

 

[symphara]

You can use your $20 phone for mission critical applications.

"Mission critical"? Did you join the special forces, or do you think you're an astronaut now, or what?

In any case, if I wanted mission critical hardware and software, I definitely wouldn't buy the fashion tech Apple is selling.

 

[hotspring21]

iPhone7 is neither announced nor released yet. Just sayin'.

We already know what iphone 7 will be like. Nothing to get too excited about. Basically iphone 6s with spec bump and bigger camera, and no headphone jack

 

[I7guy]

"Mission critical"? Did you join the special forces, or do you think you're an astronaut now, or what?

In any case, if I wanted mission critical hardware and software, I definitely wouldn't buy the fashion tech Apple is selling.

No, but I depend on it working day in and day out without a hiccup. If there is an issue, such as I drop it and crack the screen, I can go to the Apple retail outlet and have it fixed immediately.
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We already know what iphone 7 will be like. Nothing to get too excited about. Basically iphone 6s with spec bump and bigger camera, and no headphone jack

What's the spec bump?

 

[rdlink]

This is why there isn't much future in a $1,000 phone. As I have said before don't sell me a $1,500 VHS machine. Apple has milked it and good for them but in ten years time I can't imagine buying a $1,000 phone when others are being sold for $20. The technology is mature and the game is almost over.

Yep, because Apple isn't selling $20 billion a year in Macs while there are $200 PCs available everywhere...

Not sure why Android geeks can't get it through their heads that there are people who hate the Android OS, and think it's a klugey POS.

Make sure to blog about it on your $1,500 iPhone Pro with 32 Gb of storage.

Not even sure what that's supposed to mean.

 

[ani4ani]

So let's compare the entirety of Samsung's business to Apples mobile phone business. Make sense.


You can use your $20 phone for mission critical applications. Let's see how support and updates work for you. And what about the $850 price tag for the competition? May not be that now, I saw a promo get the Note 7 for $0 and bogos for the Galaxy Edge 7. Wonder why?

I'm not.. Try reading comprehension? .I am comparing the $4B that Samsung made from their mobile division and the $4B+ so so that Apple claimed (75%) for iPhone performance. If you add the fact that Samsung also make money beyond their own mobile business on IPhones, Samsung are probably making the most money on mobile hardware.

 

[I7guy]

I'm not.. Try reading comprehension? .I am comparing the $4B that Samsung made from their mobile division and the $4B+ so so that Apple claimed (75%) for iPhone performance. If you add the fact that Samsung also make money beyond their own mobile business on IPhones, Samsung are probably making the most money on mobile hardware.

What did Apple bring in last quarter $42 billion? Let's compare that? Because Apple also brings in services revenue related to its mobile phones. I'll ignore the ad-hominem.

 

[ani4ani]

What did Apple bring in last quarter $42 billion? Let's compare that? Because Apple also brings in services revenue related to its mobile phones. I'll ignore the ad-hominem.

Talking about profits my friend....not revenue

 

[Abazigal]

Since Google makes most of its money from advertising (they don't rely on extortionate percentages from app purchases), the market share is hugely relevant.

Google is doing very well financially from the Android market, and they don't need to rob developers and particularly content creators blind with onerous terms, while crying crocodile tears in the media about how they want to help artists and content creators by having politicians screw up the competition.

I guess it's telling in how Google still earns the majority of its revenue on iOS then. (Note that the linked article was from 2012, but still useful in demonstrating how market share doesn't necessarily translate into greater profits overall).

http://www.ibtimes.com/ios-devices-earn-google-4-times-more-revenue-android-devices-report-431986

http://bgr.com/2016/01/22/iphone-vs-android-revenue-comparison/

Moral of the story? Market share isn't as relevant as usage share when it comes to determine the influence each platform has. Ask anyone out there whether they would prefer Apple's profits or Android's market share and see which one they would rather have.

 

[Abazigal]

What's the spec bump?

Faster processor and rumoured bump to 3 gb of ram for the dual camera model.

 

[I7guy]

Talking about profits my friend....not revenue

Last quarter they made net income of 7.8B vs Samsung conglomerate estimating $7B; including apples business.
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Faster processor and rumoured bump to 3 gb of ram for the dual camera model.

It was a rhetorical question in that no one knows if there are any new innards to be had, maybe other than the camera. New camera, 3D touch II, etc, new sensors, more ram, more cores etc.. Some people claim the extent of the innovation is lack of headphone jack and antenna lines.

 

[AppleScruff1]

I'm talking about business.

And you can't compare in terms of Apps, the PlayStore is full on non-Apps as Apps and worse, has mountains of fart and flashlight Apps that they still keep accepting! Notwithstanding frauds, malware, cloned apps, etc. it's the Wild West!

Check out the fart apps in the App Store.

 

[Abazigal]

Do you really know that? Thing is, if only 1 in 10 android users download an app, that is pretty much the same as 100% of IOS users doing so.

Isn't that precisely the point? You would think that Android's huge market share would allow it to rival the iOS App store in terms of profitability simply through sheer, overwhelming numbers, but the reality is the opposite. Despite Android's huge market share, it's still not bringing in the money.

What then is the point of Android having such a huge market share? People like to lambast me for using Apple's profitability as proof that Apple is not behind in the smartphone wars. I say that these people can only use Android's market share as the only way to paint the iPhone as anything other than a roaring success.

 

[joeblow7777]

This is why there isn't much future in a $1,000 phone. As I have said before don't sell me a $1,500 VHS machine. Apple has milked it and good for them but in ten years time I can't imagine buying a $1,000 phone when others are being sold for $20. The technology is mature and the game is almost over.

Yeah, the price of technology goes down over time. Look how much computers used to cost. That's nothing new.

 

[ani4ani]

Last quarter they made net income of 7.8B vs Samsung conglomerate estimating $7B; including apples business.
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It was a rhetorical question in that no one knows if there are any new innards to be had, maybe other than the camera. New camera, 3D touch II, etc, new sensors, more ram, more cores etc.. Some people claim the extent of the innovation is lack of headphone jack and antenna lines.

Yes, that is my point, Apple cannot be making 95% (as you and others always claim) of global smartphone profits if iPhone made 75% [<$6B]of Apples profits, then Samsung can make <$0.3B profit for that calculation to make sense, when we know they made nearly 15 times that number from their mobile division alone. Add in hardware profit from iPhones, and I still argue that Samsung probably makes at least as much as Apple does from smartphones.