Anyone who has actually attempted to disable a HomePod is not shocked. With all due respect, please double check to see if something (being able to disable HomePod being a hub) is true before posting. Unreliable posts can waste a lot of time and lead people in unproductive directions.
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iOS and iPadOS 16.2 Betas Overhaul Home App Architecture With Improved Performance
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Curious to see if this will make any difference
I’m generally pleased with HomeKit performance 90% of the time, but that 10% of the time when it fails it does so SPECTACULARLY. Accessories taking an embarrassing amount of time to response, Siri leaving you hanging for 30 seconds only to go “Sorry, I couldn’t do that”, accessories needing to be power cycled.
I don’t know, maybe I have the worst smart bulbs ever created but it doesn’t feel like it should matter how good the Wi-Fi is in these things when the control packets are probably like bites short? My router sees them and they respond to pings - I don’t know what kind of overhead the HomeKit protocol has but I don’t feel like it would that much where it explains this behavior
I’m generally pleased with HomeKit performance 90% of the time, but that 10% of the time when it fails it does so SPECTACULARLY. Accessories taking an embarrassing amount of time to response, Siri leaving you hanging for 30 seconds only to go “Sorry, I couldn’t do that”, accessories needing to be power cycled.
I don’t know, maybe I have the worst smart bulbs ever created but it doesn’t feel like it should matter how good the Wi-Fi is in these things when the control packets are probably like bites short? My router sees them and they respond to pings - I don’t know what kind of overhead the HomeKit protocol has but I don’t feel like it would that much where it explains this behavior
Any actual reports on how this architecture overhaul improves performance?
Do you have OG homepods on your homekit network? If you don't then I wouldn't expect you to get it.
There is a measurable time difference opening the lock to my front door via the ATV as the bridge vs my Homepod being the bridge.
So if homekit is using a algo to assign it, it's ****ing bad at it.
I was excited to update to this new architecture until I realized that the outdated iPads I had been repurposing over the years to wall dashboards would prevent me from updating. They’d all become obsolete.
I think I’ve figured out a workaround. Please correct me if I’m wrong but the iPads need to be updated to 16.2 because they need to control HomeKit hubs like AppleTVs and HomePod Minis. What if instead of the Home app on my wall iPads, I run the Phillips Hue app? That should control the lights via the Hue Hub directly, not via HomeKit. Correct?
I think I’ve figured out a workaround. Please correct me if I’m wrong but the iPads need to be updated to 16.2 because they need to control HomeKit hubs like AppleTVs and HomePod Minis. What if instead of the Home app on my wall iPads, I run the Phillips Hue app? That should control the lights via the Hue Hub directly, not via HomeKit. Correct?
I thought iPads were no longer hubs under iOS 16. Apple prefers the Apple TV and HomePods as hubs since they are stationary. So I don't think overall it would be a huge impact, but yes the Phillips Hue app could control the lights through the Hue hub.
Has anyone else figured out how to get this to work? I have all my HomePod minis and Apple TVs in the house all on the latest 16.2 PB. I have OG HomePods that are stuck on 16.1 that don’t seem to have a beta of 16.2. My iPhone is on the latest 16.2 beta and my iPad Pro as well. I have other iPhones in the house like my work one that can’t go to 16.2, my wife’s phone and iPad and kids phones and iPads all on 16.1. Does this prevent me from updating to the latest architecture? I’m getting this message even though all HomePods are on 16.2 (except the OGs)
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You need the OG HomePods on 16.2. Unlike for the Mini the beta for the OG is only available through the AppleSeed program, and there's no public beta. The beta switch in the Home app is for the public beta, not the AppleSeed beta.
Anybody tried to add a new HomePod (Mini) while HomeKit is upgraded?
I got around this by removing the OG HomePods from my iCloud. Upgraded HomeKit and then readded then to my network after the upgrade.
Hi all. One more issue here. I went ahead and got all of our home devices (even the kids and wife) onto the latest betas of 16.2 (that’s how bad my HomeKit automations and music have been with HomePods) and I was desperate to try the new architecture. However ran into an issue. Only my wife’s devices it now says “This home cannot be viewed until all the homes you're a member of have been upgraded.” I’m totally confused by this. She has an iPhone, Apple Watch, iPad and she’s a member of my iMac, with all devices running the very latest betas. Can anyone shed light on why guests can’t see our home now? Thanks
Never mind. Figured it out. She had a local home that wasn’t upgraded on her iPad. All set!
Interesting. Can you add IOS 15 devices (ie Iphone 7 on 15.7.1 which cannot be updated to IOS 16), to the new home app architecture?
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In theory you can´t do this but according to Apple you also can´t invite people to your home if your hubs/homepods and main IOS devices are on IOS 16 and the ones you want to invite to be part of your home are on IOS 15, but I just did that a few weeks ago with a couple of family members and their Iphone 7 (which dont support IOS 16).
They are now part of my home, control accesories, and have personal requests. They accepted the invitation and everything went smoothly.
Everything in my house is on 16.1 and can be upgraded to 16.2... except for these two devices.
In theory, that means that I am not going to be able to upgrade to the new architecture when 16.2 gets released, because these old devices will be kicked out permamently from the home app.
But we´ll see. Apple could even release a 15.8 update with support for the new architecture, but I highly doubt it.
Hope this brightens the gray paint they chose to use for the Volume controls on my HomePod Minis 🤪
I can't see which side to touch in a half lit room. This failure to think reminds me of the round Apple mouse design a few years back.
I can't see which side to touch in a half lit room. This failure to think reminds me of the round Apple mouse design a few years back.
