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You haven't shown us anything official yet. LOL
Other than Apple.com? (That I linked to earlier, satisfying one of the other posters in the thread).
Wow, so you are saying those APPs sitting in the background are not using any more CPU or memory than ones that are closed? Sorry but you are wrong and you really need to stop posting this BS and go back to school.
Apple tech support has said to close the APPs to restore performance in the phone. They take up memory and that is a given with any device like this or computer period.
So all these people who see the speed difference from closing the APPs are wrong too? Seems to me you are alone here.
http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r25558709-Does-iPhone-4-ever-slow-down-
You haven't shown us anything official yet. LOL
http://www.apple.com/iphone/features/multitasking.html
First info blurb on the page.
"Now you can run your favorite third-party apps — and switch between them instantly — without slowing down the performance of the foreground app or draining the battery unnecessarily."
And that backs up my experience...
No CPU usage (iOS doesn't allow it) - you can see this in my screenshots above.
Yes to Memory usage, but the Apps will be dumped from memory if iOS needs the space - also visible in my screenshots (where have Twitter and Facebook gone?)
Apple tech support says a lot of nonsense. I don't think they understand memory management.
To quote Apple in 2010:
"Q: How do you close applications when multitasking?
A: (Scott Forstall) You don't have to. The user just uses things and doesn't ever have to worry about it.
A: (Steve Jobs) It's like we said on the iPad, if you see a stylus, they blew it. In multitasking, if you see a task manager... they blew it. Users shouldn't ever have to think about it."
Sorry but it still slows down the phone. Read the web and my experience with many others see it. It uses memory period. Apple isn't going to tell you exactly the truth bud.
Why would I read other people's experiences on the web when I can base my statements off MY experience. I trust MY experience much more then anyone else.
I am not saying that an app can't have soemthing go wrong and need to be manually closed because it is screwing things up... that can and does happen.
I am saying that a a general rule... if everything is working ok, which it generally does, there is no reason to manually close apps because it does not slow things down. I don't expect apple to always tell me exactly the truth.. but when they say backs up what I experience then I tend to believe it .. ok bud.
I am not saying that an app can't have soemthing go wrong and need to be manually closed because it is screwing things up... that can and does happen.
I am saying that a a general rule... if everything is working ok, which it generally does, there is no reason to manually close apps because it does not slow things down. I don't expect apple to always tell me exactly the truth.. but when they say backs up what I experience then I tend to believe it .. ok bud.
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Unless I missed it I don't think anyone answered this.
Double click the home button. tap and hold on the app and wait for it to wiggle, just like if you want to re organize your apps.
That is your experience but in reality it does slow it down. I notice it, but maybe thats due to 30 years of being around computers. And that is MY EXPERIENCE. Either way, MANY experience what I experience and Apple agrees. I will end it at that.
You should have just said you had 30 years of experience in the first place, then I would have known from the start that you know everything about computers (and smart phones which were not around 30 years ago and multi task in a different way then traditional computers) and that my experience isn't reality, we could have saved so much time!
open SMS, scroll down a bit, close it... reopen = it will be where you left off
now
open SMS, scroll down a bit, close it, remove it from the taskbar, open sms = it will be at the top.
now
open SMS, scroll down a bit, close it, remove it from the taskbar, open sms = it will be at the top.
Or as I always say, what Jobs meant was that if people KNOW it's a task manager, you blew it... since Apple of course did build in a simple task manager with the ability to kill wayward apps just like everyone else:
Apple used to have the most elegant solution, which was basically having the user do a task kill each time they went back to the home page. The Home button was a one-click task manager. Clever. Allowing background tasks in 4.0 meant that the Home button could no longer do its original job.
Ironically, Apple's user friendly solution actually confused a lot of people, as they expected to only see running apps in the quick launch bar.
Some people claim that reclaiming app memory is the culprit, and thus it depends on what you had previously used.
You should have just said you had 30 years of experience in the first place, then I would have known from the start that you know everything about computers (and smart phones which were not around 30 years ago and multi task in a different way then traditional computers) and that my experience isn't reality, we could have saved so much time!
Phones do not multitask any different than computers do. LOL.
Apps are running in the background, using CPU/Memory resources. Same as they would on a PC/OS-X.
Phones do not multitask any different than computers do. LOL.
Apps are running in the background, using CPU/Memory resources. Same as they would on a PC/OS-X.
Sorry, that is just incorrect.
http://gizmodo.com/5512656/how-multitasking-works-in-the-new-iphone-os-40
"Apple claims their multitasking will save battery life and resources, unlike the competition. But how?
The reason is simple: This is not 100% true multitasking. Not in the sense that developers define it: All system resources are available to all applications, with the system assuming the role of a traffic controller, giving preference to some tasks and less preference to others as needed.
Free-for-all multitasking will consume way too many resources, especially memory. This will make the system choke, given the limited memory available in these devices. The CPU would also be taxed, and it would deplete the battery life quicker while slowing down applications running on the foreground.
Apple's method, however, is quite clever: Basically, it allows you to pause applications"
"Basically, what Apple has done is to solve all the complaining from users who wanted to do several things at the same time. While this is not 100% multitasking, in the traditional desktop sense, it's a good thing"
I am not going to paste links to 50 websites but if you google "ios not true multi tasking" you can educate yourself on the subject
Again, I am correct. The iphone is a little different but if you compare a real multitasking device like the Android phones, then yes there is no difference.
And the APPS are idle in the background not using battery life but they are using memory which will slow the phone down. Why do you really think Apple put a task killer now? If it didn't use up memory or slow the phone down, why have one? lol
And the APPS are idle in the background not using battery life but they are using memory which will slow the phone down. Why do you really think Apple put a task killer now? If it didn't use up memory or slow the phone down, why have one? lol
Phones do not multitask any different than computers do. LOL.
Again, I am correct. The iphone is a little different but if you compare a real multitasking device like the Android phones, then yes there is no difference.
Ok, I am done discussing this with... according to you, you are correct even when you contradict yourself in your last post so obviously logic is lost on you. I am not going to waste my time.
Have fun.
Here is my .02 cents.
I don't develop, I don't have a CS degree.
But what I see is that my iphone would randomly pause a lot more often then I'd expect a brand new phone with a new OS made mostly for it running apps made specifically for it and it being top of the line when I first got it (When I didn't worry about what apps I had opened and just let the iphone do its thing).
And I have noticed that when I keep the amount of apps in the "apps you have opened" list down (like make sure to manually close all but a few), my iphone ran much smoother and had less "pauses" (You know, the kind you get when your computer doesn't have enough RAM available?). I'm much happier with my iphone's performance now that i don't leave the multi tasking management to my iphone. It works better when I manually manage it.
So I will trust my experiences over some person spouting theory at me that it shouldn't lag my iphone. Plus, how do you know? Do you know each app I run? Do you know how well it uses multi tasking? Are you sure that each does it the most efficiently? Sure, you have your window of what apps use, that is a window of what apps you were running were using, not what I was running.
I don't develop, I don't have a CS degree.
But what I see is that my iphone would randomly pause a lot more often then I'd expect a brand new phone with a new OS made mostly for it running apps made specifically for it and it being top of the line when I first got it (When I didn't worry about what apps I had opened and just let the iphone do its thing).
And I have noticed that when I keep the amount of apps in the "apps you have opened" list down (like make sure to manually close all but a few), my iphone ran much smoother and had less "pauses" (You know, the kind you get when your computer doesn't have enough RAM available?). I'm much happier with my iphone's performance now that i don't leave the multi tasking management to my iphone. It works better when I manually manage it.
So I will trust my experiences over some person spouting theory at me that it shouldn't lag my iphone. Plus, how do you know? Do you know each app I run? Do you know how well it uses multi tasking? Are you sure that each does it the most efficiently? Sure, you have your window of what apps use, that is a window of what apps you were running were using, not what I was running.
Agreed. Exactly like how I see it. But these guys, no way it can happen......oh no! Heaven forbid. Now they were proven wrong, they stop responding.
very well put. there are quite a few fresh cs grads who think theory is the same as practice - they've apparently never heard of yogi berra.
