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Just use different passwords for all your accounts. But I share and recycle passwords between PayPal, eBay,gmail and so forth...laziness is costly I suppose

1Password, among other options, is free (for the mobile version anyway....desktop is something else) and IMO pretty convenient. You may have to open an app to retrieve a password....but it beats having to remember (in my case) 70+ passwords.
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As your AppleID/iCloud/iTunes becomes more integral to using iThings then good security with your ID becomes more important.

Use a different (and long) pword than any other account for your AppleID, make sure your security questions can't be answered by looking stuff up on the internet or intelligent guessing and enable 2 factor authentication.

That second one about security questions is really bothersome to me.....it seems 3/4 of the time when you select questions from a preset list that they are normally questions that would be easy for someone to dig up info on if they wanted to badly enough.
 
If your AppleID is breached, wouldn't the way Apple implements 2-step authentication be an issue too? Wouldn't iMessage. that is used for receiving the code, also be vulnerable? After all, they are part of the same eco system.

Just curious. I use it myself but it seems like an authenticator code would be more secure.

For the hacker to do anything such as lock your device, the hacker would need physical access to an approved device first before initiating a lock.
 
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Well there you go. Two companies that figured out how to make something popular and never figured out how to make it secure. Apple is somewhat guilty of this too.

If it's not designed from the ground up, then it's a bigger chance of having problems. Anyone in "Tech 101" knows no platform is bulletproof and we've said it for years. Now look up how secure automobile systems aren't and cringe.

Until world governments update their laws to throw the book at ANY hacker, and users smarten up and start using passwords other than "password", this kind of crap will continue.

I know, neither thing will ever happen, and I'm just being an optimist...

Businesses always tell governments to stay out of the free market. At least until it's time for corporate welfare and lobbyist-influenced riders.

Apple under Tim Cook is slipping...

Wasn't that great before him, noting the privacy lawsuits, malware, misadvertising (all the Apple fans guffawing over they could never have security issues and viruses... the latter is technically correct but most don't understand the full breadth of what "malware" is and Apple cashed in with those adverts.

As a human, all things considered, he's not the same "alpha" type that Job had and most people would not get away with the antics Jobs pulled. Despite knowing long in advance of certain phone issues, he still spat on customers when screaming at then "you're holding it wrong". Most businesses would not survive in putting out known defective trash and blaming customers for what was not their fault or cause. Jobs was a horrible CxO. Sorry. And technology news media reported the antenna problem and Jobs being informed of it. The same media reported his infamous anti-customer outburst, too.

The other option is for big companies to accept these problems. I like that Google has two-factor auth by default and doesn't allow password reset using security questions alone. Apple needs to do this too.

That's Apple's choice. It's also less expensive to be reactive than proactive. How much money would you spend, since investors will not like seeing teeny tiny returns by comparison?

Also, isn't the word "authorization"? "Authoring"? "Authentication"? "Authomobile"? :) Americans can't handle more than two syllables in words anymore... I miss the days when people could handle multisyllabic words...

Just use different passwords for all your accounts. But I share and recycle passwords between PayPal, eBay,gmail and so forth...laziness is costly I suppose

"I suppose" sounds lazy. Also remember, Apple built itself up by selling ease-of-use and big-time, ever since 1984. So the irony in all this is immense.
 
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Apple under Tim Cook is slipping...
Apple as a company has been growing at a ludicrously fast rate for the past few years. The bigger you get, ths greater the number more of bad people out there want to take you down. Apple is still the most prolific company out of them all who proactively fixes security issues as fast as they can and make further improvements.

So, to fix your statement: Apple under Tim Cook has grown significantly and must now work harder to uphold the security standards they're known for. But at least they're still trying.
 
That second one about security questions is really bothersome to me.....it seems 3/4 of the time when you select questions from a preset list that they are normally questions that would be easy for someone to dig up info on if they wanted to badly enough.

Then don't use 'real' answers. For example your birthplace (Chicago, Illinois) could be input as CH1c@g0&1llin01s

OK either you have to remember this or you could store it in something like 1-Password
 
If your AppleID is breached, wouldn't the way Apple implements 2-step authentication be an issue too? Wouldn't iMessage. that is used for receiving the code, also be vulnerable? After all, they are part of the same eco system.

Just curious. I use it myself but it seems like an authenticator code would be more secure. I believe Apple has 2-step verification only, not 2-factor.

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204915

They have two factor if you have iOS9 and El Capitan.
 
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Well there you go. Two companies that figured out how to make something popular and never figured out how to make it secure. Apple is somewhat guilty of this too.
oh really? how is Apple guilty of this? iOS and OS X are two of the most secure consumer operating systems on the market. so what on earth are you talking about? (please dont cite the Fappening, as that was a phishing attack on those celebrities/assistants foolish enough to fall for it)
 
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As your AppleID/iCloud/iTunes becomes more integral to using iThings then good security with your ID becomes more important.

Use a different (and long) pword than any other account for your AppleID, make sure your security questions can't be answered by looking stuff up on the internet or intelligent guessing and enable 2 factor authentication.

The smart thing to do would not have your eggs in one basket. Someone using idevices, android and Windows depending on the platforms strengths is going to be less impacted than someone who has all thier devices and devices linked to one appleid. This is a disadvantage of the walled garden.

Actually this never used to be any issue even for apple, until apple forced appleid onto all of us, now it's integral to operation of the hardware/services.
 
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There lies the problem when everything in the Apple ecosystem is now linked by Appleid . It's a real shame as many users use the same email / password for many websites / services .

what? using more than one signon for apple products and services would be insane and anti-user.

just use a unique, secure password for your AppleID. problem solved. it's so simple.
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Apple under Tim Cook is slipping...
trollhardy nonsense.
 
Apple as a company has been growing at a ludicrously fast rate for the past few years. The bigger you get, ths greater the number more of bad people out there want to take you down. Apple is still the most prolific company out of them all who proactively fixes security issues as fast as they can and make further improvements.

So, to fix your statement: Apple under Tim Cook has grown significantly and must now work harder to uphold the security standards they're known for. But at least they're still trying.

Don't feed the troll.
 
what? using more than one signon for apple products and services would be insane and anti-user.

just use a unique, secure password for your AppleID. problem solved. it's so simple.

You missed the point .

For example. I purchase my iPhone , buy it outright, why must I be forced to own a Mac to activate it and have an Apple ID?

And the second point you missed, single sign on, gives hackers access to all your idevices......hence this story....remotely half way around the world.

The point is , I know why apple does it, what I'm saying is that it comes with cons....as Per this Story here.

Major sites will get hacked....very good chance people use the same email/password, there for a 3rd party hack will give hackers access to your Apple ID......

And if apple gets hacked, not knowing ..... Your unique and secure password is useless. Never assume your password is safe. That is simple. Plan for the worst case scenario.....cause companies do.....even apple, cause even when you make Changes in your account events and warnings are triggered....cause they anticipate hackers might get access.
 
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For example. I purchase my iPhone , buy it outright, why must I be forced to own a Mac to activate it and have an Apple ID?

You aren't. Just use a trusted phone number to receive the verification SMS text or phone call with the code.

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Until world governments update their laws to throw the book at ANY hacker, and users smarten up and start using passwords other than "password", this kind of crap will continue.

I know, neither thing will ever happen, and I'm just being an optimist...
Just a little overly maybe. Especially because you forgot another big problem being users that repeat the same password across multiple sites. Hacking one site now gives me access to your password that I can then use to gain access to your bank account. People really need to work on getting a password manager like Apples KeyChain. I have ID and passwords for a 100 or so sight and I frankly have no idea what my password is for just about anything. Thankfully keychain works well across all my devices. Not selling keychain as there are others out there. My point is that folks need to take this stuff more seriously.
 
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Then don't use 'real' answers. For example your birthplace (Chicago, Illinois) could be input as CH1c@g0&1llin01s
It could be entered as kitqwer158xkwpogi.

But actually, that's only relevant if someone is specifically after _you_. These criminals wouldn't bother with anything that requires them answering security questions. They break into some website run by criminally incompetent people, steal account names and passwords, crack them, and then they try these names as AppleIds + passwords.

So what puts you at risk is having an AppleID with a password that is guessable, or using the same password at a website that is run by incompetents.
 
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Well this convinced me it's time for me to set up two factor authentication finally.

So I go into my Apple account page and it immediately prompts me to change my password since it's been a while since I changed it. OK, so I change it. Then I go to set up two-factor authentication and it says "sorry, you have to wait three days after changing your password."

Gee, thanks. Grrr....
 
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