iOS Grew to Capture 42% of U.S. Smartphone Market Over Holidays

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  1. fourthtunz macrumors 6502a

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    and then some of the carriers offer great deals when the iPhone comes out, you get it almost for free
    with your old phone trade in. Most also offer interest free financing, if you can pay $25 a month instead
    of the full price up front, why not have the latest iPhone? Point taken, sure some are fooled.
     
  2. ackmondual macrumors 6502a

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    Well, if someone buys a $50 Android phone, they're not going to care if their device is getting updated. They're not using it for business, so security issues won't be as big of impact. For functionality and features, the 3rd party apps they used can be updated independent of the OS and security updates. If they really want a new OS, the phone was cheap enough in the first place that they could just buy a new phone.

    For the $500+ Android phones OTOH.. manufacturers should be making enough $$ to put in better update plans.

    However, some people do choose to reject or at least put off updates. My Ipad Air is still on ios8, and my Ipod Touch 5 is still on ios7. For the latter, I heard mixed reactions with ios8. I didn't want to risk making the user experience laggy, or run into compatibility issues with my games. Besides, many of the new features that came with the iOS updates were for the later iPhones anyways. I was going to get the later versions of iOS by buying the iPod Touch 6, but I passed on that since it still has the same dinky, 4" screen. At this point, there's no point in updating iOS on my IpT5. It's been running for over 3.5 years. The battery will die one day, and I'll just ride out ios7 till that.
     
  3. Stella macrumors 604

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    Marketshare, the clue is in the article.

    The consumer doesn't care about profits that are made.


     
  4. gnasher729 macrumors P6

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    I think there is some statistics that only about 1% upgrade within a year. So very few iPhone 7 owners will buy an iPhone 8. A decent number will be sold to 6s and more to iPhone 6 users. But I think as an iPhone 4s user you are also in a "few percent" minority now.
     
  5. Stella macrumors 604

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    Toucharcade app is still 32bit - I'm surprised it hasn't been updated.

    ( Toucharcade being related to this site )

     
  6. gnasher729 macrumors P6

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    But Apple cares. And the Android makers care.
     
  7. pika2000 macrumors 68020

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    Agree with you. The concept of the OS has so much promise.

    Microsoft promised Windows Phone to be the best of both worlds, the diversity of Android (multiple OEMs) and the fluidity and OS updates of iOS. They failed on both fronts, creating a platform that is worst of both worlds (lack of variety outside Nokia and no updates at all). And then the apps, or the lack of. Add on the fact that Google refused to make apps for the platform (other than the single search app).
     
  8. Abazigal macrumors 603

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    Apple sells 12 iOS devices (10 iPhones and 2 iPads) for every new Mac they sell.

    So no, you are not be only one, but you are also in the minority here.
     
  9. belvdr macrumors 601

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    The title is incorrect. 42% of the market <> 42% of sales, unless the entire market turned over.
     
  10. jeyf macrumors regular

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    its just the iPhone 7 didnt catch fire like the Samsung Galaxy Note 7.

    now what brand of head phones recently cough file on the Australian bound flight? This could be business opportunity for Beats?
     
  11. the-msa macrumors 6502

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    its a shame for windows phone. its the sleekest OS out of the bunch. if it wasnt for the non-availability of apps, i'd probably have one now.
     
  12. Winni macrumors 68030

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    Well, from the perspective of someone writing code/apps for mobile platforms, it's much more fun to do so for Android simply because of its openness and the freedom that you have there as a developer. (And no, you don't have to use ****ing Java to write apps for Android -- I don't.) Besides that, everybody can build devices running Android, but only Apple builds things running iOS.

    Yes, Android is the new Windows -- but you know what, that actually is a good thing. It's a de-facto standard that EVERYBODY can use.

    On the long run, the open platform ALWAYS wins. (And you don't have to be "open source" in order to be "open".)
     
  13. macfacts macrumors 68000

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    It is weird so many iPhone fans are happy that Apple overcharges them.
     
  14. C DM macrumors Westmere

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    Seems like it's more than likely simpler than any of that: more variety of cheaper products will sell more than a much smaller variety of a more expensive product.
     
  15. I7guy macrumors G4

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    And to add to that there seems to be a lot of evidence that people are happy with price to value ratio.
     
  16. fourthtunz macrumors 6502a

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    Samsung charges almost as much for some of their phones... but people overwhelmingly choose the iPhone over Samsung...like 94%-4%. And Samsung has a lot of cheap phones in that 4%
    The iPhone is just better
     
  17. LordVic macrumors 68040

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    Everytime a "fanboy" brings up profit as the reason Apple is the best at everything they do,

    All i have to do is remind them of Backstreet boys.

    Popularity, and the willingness of individuals to part with their money does not actually represent quality. I'm not saying Apple's quality is bad. its's fantastic.

    But repeating the profit metric doesn't prove the point that they think it does.

    i'm not going to harp on the "overcharge" metric. Value is going to generally be subjective. But when userse boast about Apple's profits, I don't think they realize that it is their pocket those profits are coming from. And many of us have serious issues with how Apple at a corporate level behaves ethically. (even if they are legal)

    essentially, it's the "Apple Tax". some people are willing to pay it. Some are not.
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    what absolute nonsense

    While samsung and Apple charge the same for their devices, Samsung's cost of production is significantly higher due to the fact samsung puts generally more expensive technology, and more of it than Apple. This is not me saying one is better than the other, But overall Samsung's devices at the same price, have lower margins because of it.

    For example, it costs far more to use OLED currently than LCD. More to include 64gb base than 32. More to include 4-8gb of RAM than 2.

    Apple is capable of high margins and large profits because they are very very good at providing overall less expensive components than Samsung. many people argue that this is because Apple is willing to provide "yesterdays" tech for today's prices to keep those profit margins large.

    again, this doesn't take away that the iPhone is a great experience, But the subjective value with Apple devices is far more polarizing because of Apple's business model than their competitors.

    at no point in any way does what you claim to be truth and absolutely shows a complete lack of business understanding.
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    Market share is so important because if you're a developer, if you have the potential of hitting 40% of people or 60% of people with your program, most will lean towards the larger market first.

    the days of Apple's App ecosystem being #1 I think is behind them. However, "**** being first". this isn't a zero sum game. any developer who really wants to do well will attempt ot hit both platforms with equal products in order to get 100% of the market
     
  18. C DM macrumors Westmere

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    https://9to5mac.com/2017/01/17/app-store-revenue-numbers/
     
  19. LordVic macrumors 68040

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    its a factor, and right now Apple is still the #1 place to release your App

    that doesn't mean it will stay that way. i'm not able to predict the future, so it's all hypothetical (I didnt think i needed to actually state that)
     
  20. C DM macrumors Westmere

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    Right, anything can happen in the future, which is essentially neither here nor there.
     
  21. LordVic macrumors 68040

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    yup but we're on a message board that's discussing such matters, and it's fun to speculate and apply my skills as an analyst :p

    that by no means guarantees my predictions are right :p only what I interpret from facts and numbers that I can accumulate

    just a hobby to pass time

    I by no means think Apple is doomed. This was only one hypothetical problem that COULD arise with not having the bigger market share in a 2 horse race.

    its not even really a race. there's no finish line. you can have a #1 and #2 who are both good products and services.
     
  22. Stella macrumors 604

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    Android phones can be equally priced as iPhones, especially when on a cell phone 'Tab'.
     

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