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1. Better security, this is debatable. There are several malware appeared on App Store.
2. Better mobile silicon. Maybe true, but it is not really obvious for most regular users.
3. Better support. Depends where are you located. My city in China has no official Apple Support while my city in Canada has Apple Store. I went to McMaster university at City of Hamilton with no Apple Store. Better support is really depends on region. And Apple charges tons for their repairs anyway. Most people would turns to third party repairs.
4. Better resale. That is true. Unless you are changing phone every year, resale value makes no difference. Most people keep their phone until it last minutes.
5. Better life span. That is not true. I have Nexus 6 still going strong and my iPhone 6S is crappying with iOS 11.
6. Android has just much apps as iOS. Apps quality is just as good as iOS counterparts.

1. Better security, this is debatable... lets debate - 'Active patching, Centrally Managed App distribution, central support' vs.?
2. Better silicon... yup that's why Samsung are always in catchup - 64 bit processors, more cores, fingerprint id and not facial recognition..
3. Better support, citing the woeful experiences my colleagues have had talking directly to Samsung in store and being told to wait a week for an assessment even before resolution vs. walking into store being asked if I've got a backup and then being given a refurb on the spot.. yeh and it works just was well via mail.
4. Better resale doesnt just affect annual change, i can sell my old 3 year old iPhones variants for approx 1/2 original cost vs. a complete throwaway or giveaway
5. Better life span... Spamsung push out way more hardware updates and encourage replacements than Apple do.
6. Android has just much apps as iOS - keep kidding yourseld :D
 
1. Better security, this is debatable... lets debate - 'Active patching, Centrally Managed App distribution, central support' vs.?
2. Better silicon... yup that's why Samsung are always in catchup - 64 bit processors, more cores, fingerprint id and not facial recognition..
3. Better support, citing the woeful experiences my colleagues have had talking directly to Samsung in store and being told to wait a week for an assessment even before resolution vs. walking into store being asked if I've got a backup and then being given a refurb on the spot.. yeh and it works just was well via mail.
4. Better resale doesnt just affect annual change, i can sell my old 3 year old iPhones variants for approx 1/2 original cost vs. a complete throwaway or giveaway
5. Better life span... Spamsung push out way more hardware updates and encourage replacements than Apple do.
6. Android has just much apps as iOS - keep kidding yourseld :D

There are lots of apps in the play store. I don’t think it really matters which store has the most apps as there are many more than any person would ever use. Where the App Store wins is in the quality of the apps. Sure the big free ones are the same but a lot of games take ages to come to the playstore or professional apps. The developers spend more time developing for Apple because people spend more money on iOS apps than on android. Also piracy is a big problem on android.

Samsung probably have stores in South Korea and maybe in big Chinese cities. They used to have a flagship store in the UK. It wasn’t as good as the Genius Bar but they would attempt to fix your device on the day before sending it away. Also you could pay for express screen replacements and get your screen fixed on the day. There aren’t that many Samsung stores in the UK and the closest one to me is over 2 hours away. I would imagine Samsung probably have better services in Korea though.

Apple do have better chips but I think Samsung and many of the abdroid OEM’s have better cutting edge tech.

Security is just better on iOS no need to debate. However I think it depends on what you are doing with your android phone. Most people using android phones won’t have any security issues.

Apple are better for privacy but it depends on how you feel about the whole privacy issue. For me I think a lot of my info is already out there because I’ve used the internet and have things like a Facebook account.

Apple support their devices for longer but if you are that way inclined (I’m not) you can sideload later versions of android onto your device.
 
Ahahaha!

Remember those fools of ANALists telling us that Hauwei and whatever are going to eat Apple's lunch? Apple doesn't innovate? Samsung is so good? Notch bad? iPhone X too expensive? iPhone X a flop? iPhone X going to be discontinued? iPhone X piling up in warehouses?
 
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Anyone can make the countless reasons of iOS versus android debate, which will never end. iOS is dominant for a lot of reasons, some being the ecosystem, security and stability. Those I think are some of the major, but it doesn’t mean android is ‘bad’ per se, it just means that the user is choosing what they prefer based on what Operating platform they want to invest or simply they choose what OS based off what they are accustomed to.
 
When Apple offers a phone under 500$ that isn't a 2 year old model based on a 6 year old design maybe I'll show some slight interest.

Oh, and actual power user features thanks. Like a usable file system. And letting me drag and drop files from my PC over USB and never have to touch the abomination that is iTunes ever again.
So you want a a new flagship phone at a budget phones price
 
Perhaps time to put "Windows" under "other"...

Unlike the stagnant PC OS market dominated by Windows (!), mobile OS has a very healthy competition.
 
Care to elaborate why iPhone is far superior to Android, because simply i failed to see that is the case. I have both iPhone and Android phone (Huawei, Xiaomi, Motorola, Smartisan, Google Nexus etc), I can seems see the advantage of iPhone, rather than the high price tag. There are so many more people using Android and the number is growing everyday.

Yes, Apple owns the high end market. High end market is also the dying market. As mid-range phones becoming more reliable and speedy, more and more people will opt for mid-range phones more than people opt for high end phone. You see this with PC market, high end PC only make tiny share of PC market share while overall PC market are in mid-range PCs.

This would occur with smartphone market as well. As iPhone becomes more and more expensive, lesser and lesser people will opt for iPhone.
Ironically, that’s what seems to have happened to Samsung.

However, I am convinced that this logic simply doesn’t apply to Apple. Their products are unique in that they run Apple’s custom software, which results in a unique user experience that many people are willing to pay handsomely for.

Maybe a small percentage in terms of worldwide market share, but still a very large number in an absolute sense, and enough to make Apple so very insanely profitable.
 
When Apple offers a phone under 500$ that isn't a 2 year old model based on a 6 year old design maybe I'll show some slight interest.

Oh, and actual power user features thanks. Like a usable file system. And letting me drag and drop files from my PC over USB and never have to touch the abomination that is iTunes ever again.
Ah, and you already sound like somebody from 5 years ago. With Airdrop, i can simply transfer files via finder without wires. And iTunes have not been a requirement for years.
 
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The strategy will likely expand to lower end markets like India, but really hasn’t yet. The SE is a tiny part of iPhone sales and hasn’t been updated in years. I’d like to see them expand the product like and make more money on services.

I think they will, but they haven’t focused on the lower end market...yet.
the low end tech market is littered with the dead bodies of companies who focused on it. Apple made the mistake of joining that party once in the 90s and was nearly wiped out. Where are their competitors from 1970? How about 1980? Great hardware is like Real Estate. Upgrade it every so often and you increase its value. Software only models are more dangerous because they are more easily disrupted.
 
3. Better support, citing the woeful experiences my colleagues have had talking directly to Samsung in store and being told to wait a week for an assessment even before resolution vs. walking into store being asked if I've got a backup and then being given a refurb on the spot.. yeh and it works just was well via mail.

Lets not kid ourselves, the above scenario does not exist.

I'm a big Apple advocate and have been with iPhone since the very first phone through to the X. But whilst customer service is definitely improving the above is just a complete fallacy.

Anyone defending the Genius Bar setup will literally defend anything Apple do through pure brand allegiance. If my phone breaks and I walk into an Apple Store, I will get asked if I have a Genius Bar appointment. If I don't have one I'll be told that I need to get a drop in appointment if any are available, usually those appointments are hours away or not available. That is simply not acceptable for any purchase, nevermind expensive products such as Apple products. If I buy a TV from a local electronics store, if it breaks I can take it in there and then with a receipt to any cashier, get it tested and get it replaced or refunded. Apple do not allow this, and it is awful customer service, and quite frankly its got to be borderline illegal in terms of (UK at least) consumer protection/legislation. I get they're always busy, but if that's the case, employ more staff, that shouldn't be a consumer issue. I'm fortunate, I have 3 'local' Apple stores, but they're all 40-60 minutes away when I say local, so having to make special trips back to the store once I have an appointment, or having to wait around for hours is just not particularly feasible.

They have improved their service, I used to have to argue with the staff everytime I had a hardware issue, to firstly defend that it wasn't an issue of my own causing (in the example of an iPhone they'd blame a hardware issue on it being dropped, despite the phone being in perfect condition). They'd rely solely on their flimsy warranty terms, where a $1000 phone would just no longer turn on, but because it's 13 months old, I would have to pay for it. Unfortunately regardless of warranty period, I should expect a phone to last longer than that, given the costs and the usage expectations that come with such a device. Fortunately in recent times this is no longer the case and they are willing to accept the customers point of view, rather than presume guilt, and they don't stick to the daft warranty rulings.

However a straight swap out for new or refurb is also not as simple as you state, they will always try to repair first, have you come back a few hours later, and collect it. Then after using if it's still suffering issues they will replace. Obviously that depends on the issue and product, but in general that is the rule. I actually experienced this the other day with my iPhone X which had developed the ghost touch issue. They said store policy is to always repair before they replace. The guy was nice and they did fix the issue, so I can't complain, other than having to hang around for 3 hours in a shopping centre.

Apple's customer service has improved massively, and I'm very appreciative of that, but there's still plenty of room for improvement.
 
Lets not kid ourselves, the above scenario does not exist.

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I'm a big Apple advocate and have been with iPhone since the very first phone through to the X. But whilst customer service is definitely improving the above is just a complete fallacy.

While I don't deny your experience with customer service, it seems to come from a different universe than my experience. I have twice had to contact Apple online to get an iOS device replaced, once for an iPod whose home button stopped working and once for an iPhone with a defective taptic engine. In both cases after I answered a few questions and performed a couple of reboot tests, Apple sent me an appropriate replacement by next day carrier, and took the old device back without any hassle. The nearest Apple store is 2 hours away, so this was a big time saver. Everything they asked me to check was perfectly reasonable and easy to do, and I had a working device within a day of contacting them. I'd be ecstatic if any of the other companies I deal with had that kind of customer service. Given their very high customer service satisfaction ratings, apparently a lot of other people feel the same way.
 
Ah, and you already sound like somebody from 5 years ago. With Airdrop, i can simply transfer files via finder without wires. And iTunes have not been a requirement for years.

Does Airdrop work on a PC? Can it be used to add music/movies to an iPhone? If it can, then thats great, iPhone has made some progress since I last had one.
 
All the features listed my 500$ Samsung can do. Hardley "flagship" features, and the main reason I have a samsung and not an iPhone.
Haha a $200 Xiaomi can do most of your $500 overpriced Samsung. It is no wonder Xiaomi is beating Samsung.
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When Apple offers a phone under 500$ that isn't a 2 year old model based on a 6 year old design maybe I'll show some slight interest.

Oh, and actual power user features thanks. Like a usable file system. And letting me drag and drop files from my PC over USB and never have to touch the abomination that is iTunes ever again.
Your needs and expectations represent fewer than 1% of smartphone (specifically iPhone) users so I'm not sure who you are talking to. We can only assume you are an Android user in an Apple forum. That's fine but not sure what you're expecting to happen either.
 
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Offering different price points and a verity of devices is key to appealing to a greater audience. The rumor mill has been pretty accurate the last few years with predicting the new line-up. Personally, I look forward new devices coming down the line, especially the iPhone X line up.
 
If this is true, does this mean another good news for AAPL investors comes earning announcement next week? :cool:
Maybe. I think people underestimate or don’t fully consider Apples complete dominance of the enterprise. I work as a healthcare consultant and haven’t engaged one company that refers to android and almost all don’t even have it as an option. The iPhone reigns supreme, but typically most enterprise customers are buying at least 1-2 cycles behind of what the latest iPhone is and usually the lowest storage size available.
 
Reading the title, I felt like iOS is catching up to Android in US. Even after the 6% gain, Android market share is still almost double of iOS.
 
Ah, and you already sound like somebody from 5 years ago. With Airdrop, i can simply transfer files via finder without wires. And iTunes have not been a requirement for years.
iCloud Drive makes everything so seamless. Your ipad, mac and iPhone are interchangeable.
 
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