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iOS has got no soul anymore

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Op, then go android. Go with the best product that you like and if you feel android will be more useful to your then by all means do it. IMO, Android has always had more functionality than ios since 4.0 came around. If you want functionality, I would absolutely suggest android. The only thing holding me back from purchasing an android tablet as opposed to an ipad is android just hasn't made it in that market yet in the 10 inch area.
 
Deasnutz said:
If I wanted straight functionality, I'd just go android. Almost feels like a bastardized fake version of a real thing.
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Enjoy your half-baked OS that doesn't work.

iOS7 will be waiting for you once you realise that.
 
mirzank said:
i actually think ios has MORE soul now. if you werent so hesitant to change or fixated on the departure of steve jobs, you'd notice that too. sure you dont get 3d icons and you might not like the icons, but look at the multi layer design of the iphone. i love how you can see through the lock screen keyboard to the background wall paper. love how bringing up notification centre or cntrol panel shows the slight colours of the background behind it.

I love how windows slide into view. i love the sleek new thin font.i thoguht i'd dismiss paralax for just being a gimick (like i dismissed siri or apple maps), but i actually like paralax surprisingly. i love the sleeker mail app. and sms. and the dial pad.

so i think you've just got blinders on because its very easy to be outraged when you have nothing else to complain about. relax. take a deep breath. and it will allll be ok.
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There's a strange mix going on. The skewomorpism was out of control with the felt and some interfaces, but others gave iOS a professional character. I miss the gloss of the battery, the controls. The flat went overboard.

Strangely, the transparent layers play into that style of glossiness, but then you're confronted with hard to read buttons as text that used to stand out as polish. You have a date picker that was elegant and is now obscure. Many of the new layered elements look like they belong to the old design and would fit in nicely with the old polish, others seem cheap like the the original Windows products.

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mirzank said:
user experience IS functionality. apples user experience is giving the user straightforward, simple, usable, attractive design. to me that in the core of functionality. now you might not agree with the actual functionality it provides but thats a different story. you can't deny that apple started the smartphone revolution (the MAINSTREAm revolution) because it was simple and straightforward. it was FUNCTIONAL without bogging down the user in unnecessary complications.

you just want something that functions DIFFERENTLY. What you're saying is: Why do i need a sandboxed experience. why am i not able to install any software outside the app store. why am i not able to play crysis on my iphone.its like saying "man screw the iphone i can't dj on it" when really waht you need is turntables not an iphone.

so in summary, the iphone experience is all about functionality. you just want something different. maybe more complicated is what you want (but that doesnt equate to more functional).
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I expect iOS to just work, that is part of the functionality that was really lacking in other phones at the time. I switched to Apple for the functionality and the professional look. If I had a bug, it would get fixed with free updates and I didn't have to buy a new phone, it's the thing that keeps me away from Android and other carrier delivered phone updates.

I expect features I won't find anywhere else, like easy 5-way conference calls, GPS, geo-fencing. I expect the interface to make this easy. I want it extensible with lots of content (apps and media) available to me. Buying an app on a WinMo phone used to be a nightmare. On Apple, I can usually find what I want.

I do think flat went too far. I love some elements, others should have been reigned in.
 
I think it has more "soul" now actually. iOS 6 an older feel lifeless to me. It's like looking at a photorealistic painting, sure it's impressive, but it's unimaginative. iOS 7 has a more interesting style.
 
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I love ios7. It's beautiful IMO. There is still room for UI and usability improvements but overall I am very happy with the new direction and wondering how Steve would have done things is pointless now.
 
This site really annoys me sometimes...how can it be that someone is allowed to post swearing in a thread and the thread has been up a day and yet in the past I have called someone a liar and got banned 48 hours for it within an hour.

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betabeta said:
Steve's plan with the 4 years of products didn't involve firing his mini me Scott Forstall, who was in charge of the design of ios....Steve didn't have Jony design software which makes you say hmmmm.
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If the slightest good has come from Steve's absence then it has to be the ousting of Scott Forstall. Best move Apple has made in quite a while.
 
Ray Charles had soul...:cool:

Aretha Franklin has soul...:cool:

Mose Allison had soul...:cool:

Charlie Parker had soul...:cool:

iPhones, and their OS, don't got no soul!:p
 
batting1000 said:
I like how everyone thinks they knew what Steve Jobs was like as though they were best friends.
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hahah just what i was thinking. people here make it sound like jobs told them stff he didn't tell anyone else. its an oversimplification to think a multi billion dollar company works the way everyone is making it out to be. sometimes its talent that gets kicked out. sometimes its because of politics. we'll never know because managers make these tough decisions every second. so just because we all paid a few thousand bucks to own some apple products for a few years doesn't mean we suddenly know jobs or how apple works.
 
iOS 7 reminds me of a mormon having a gay existential crisis.

Half the iOS is bland, clean, and safe

The other half is over the top bubbly neon rainbow colors drawing attention to itself.

Hopefully iOS7 finds its way before coming out.
 
Deasnutz said:
If I wanted straight functionality, I'd just go android. Almost feels like a bastardized fake version of a real thing.


And I blame Tim Cook 100%. If that guy had ONE JOB, it's to keep the core talent from leaving apple. Just piss all over everything Steve worked for all these years *******.
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Methinks OP "Deasnutz" is trolling you all. But who knows maybe he speaks the truth and nobody ever takes him seriously because his parents named him Deasnutz.

I knew a guy named Dick Walker once.
 
I too love the new design of iOS7. I think it was desperately needed as the previous layouts were definitely getting stale. Androids have also gotten its fair share of overhauls. The good news is that we'll finally start getting the features that we've been wanting.
 
Deasnutz said:
If I wanted straight functionality, I'd just go android. Almost feels like a bastardized fake version of a real thing.


And I blame Tim Cook 100%. If that guy had ONE JOB, it's to keep the core talent from leaving apple. Just piss all over everything Steve worked for all these years *******.
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Wow you sound really angry. Don't like it don't buy it/upgrade to it. Easy peasy. PLUS all you Jobs worshipers act like steve was the one that designed, built, delivered the i products. He had his say but ffs, he wasn't superman..... as evidenced by his death. Let apple move on and ffs, move on yourself.
 
mirzank said:
so exactly what did you expect regarding steve jobs? for him to live forever just so you could have your gadget fix? guys gone. he trained tim cook. he made sure tim cook was ceo because he trusted him. do you think its easy to run an organization the size of apple? its not. so first of all, go easy on your anger towards the lack of steve.

Secondly, as for the the no soul part. you still havent explain what you mean by "no soul". i actually think ios has MORE soul now. if you werent so hesitant to change or fixated on the departure of steve jobs, you'd notice that too. sure you dont get 3d icons and you might not like the icons, but look at the multi layer design of the iphone. i love how you can see through the lock screen keyboard to the background wall paper. love how bringing up notification centre or cntrol panel shows the slight colours of the background behind it.

I love how windows slide into view. i love the sleek new thin font.i thoguht i'd dismiss paralax for just being a gimick (like i dismissed siri or apple maps), but i actually like paralax surprisingly. i love the sleeker mail app. and sms. and the dial pad.

so i think you've just got blinders on because its very easy to be outraged when you have nothing else to complain about. relax. take a deep breath. and it will allll be ok.
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I think they've got their priorities right. In the WWDC video for interface design, they spent quite a lot of time on explaining typography, and how it impacts the users. And I'm impressed. Even though apps like the mail app don't have much more aesthetic elements, the new font just makes them so much more pleasant

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rocknblogger said:
That's really not fair. Android has come a long way and in some things has even surpassed iOS. It works and it works very well. All depends on the device.
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There's no doubt that android has come a long way. But I don't agree that it has surpassed iOS.

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TheRainKing said:
Personally, I agree with the OP. Apple products have never been about functionality, they were about art and user experience. Sadly some people just don't get it so it's hard to have a proper discussion on this type of subject.
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No. If you see jony ive talking, he always makes it clear: the functionality is embodied in the design. Apple products have never had unnecessary details. The previous iOS versions chose to incorporate style in favour of substance, like leather stitching and book binding. Do you find anything like that on the exterior of any of their products? No.

In iOS 7, it's more true to apple's tradition: style is substance. Every visual element has a meaning behind it. Due to this, In my opinion, the design has more soul.
 
Imagine: 10 years ago when phones like Nokia 3310 was popular that someone would say to you ''In 10 years, people will talk about souls of phones''

If someone would said that to me, I would throw 3310 at them.
 
GenesisST said:
It's a phone, not a human being... But for some it is a symbol and those are truly the ones lacking a soul.
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Yes and similarly a "Life companion" really should be in your life longer than two years and not require a contract.

The marketing is getting odd and uncomfortable in mobile.
 
What if Steve on purpose nominated Tim as CEO to show that Apple is nothing without Steve? :D

If Apple fails without Steve, people will always remember him. Apple and Steve is one
 
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