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I'm in the same boat. Need to hope Ryan Mathews get 1 point or less :rolleyes:

Highly unlikely with Tolbert doubtful because of injury. And, there is the fact that I've got Mathews in another league where I need him to have a good night.

So, here's to Mathews scoring 20+ resulting in a win for me :D and a loss for you. :(
 
Well, I got 14 points out of Mathews in that other league, but my opponent picked up Novak at the last minute and got 14 points out of him so I lost by 3 points. :mad:
 
I escaped with a win, if horse wrangler had started roethlisberger over romo he'd have won, he also could have picked up points from harvin at wr and dallas defense. asleep at the wheel apparently :p



Don't remind me. For some reason I didn't even see the bears... doh! Grrrr

:eek::D:mad::)

That is all my emotions....well at least the ones I care to talk about! LOL
 
commish...how are you going to let bye players play? very unfair.

just like a trade to a buddy without league members voting on it.


Hey Rick, I'm not sure what you are referring to by letting bye week players play? Do you mean allowing them to be in the starting line up?

And, I'm really not sure what you are talking about with trades as there have been no trades in this league all year. Can you please expound upon your concerns and I'll be happy to address them?
 
Hey Rick, I'm not sure what you are referring to by letting bye week players play? Do you mean allowing them to be in the starting line up?

And, I'm really not sure what you are talking about with trades as there have been no trades in this league all year. Can you please expound upon your concerns and I'll be happy to address them?

team fireshot had 2 bye players in the starting lineup. gave the win to the opp

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It is up to the owner to make sure you watch your players and schedule them as appropriate. Failure to do so results in a player who is on a bye week will not play!

its unfair...what if the opponent was like your not making the playoffs, so just leave your bye players in so i win...how is that fair to the others?
 
Maybe you should look at the rules then. This has been in there since the beginning. And I will let the commish address you then.

you just addressed it. it don't matter now, since byes are pretty much done. i was just looking out for the league. this happens a lot when teams know they are finished. just expressing my concern.
 
it sucks but thats the way it is, it makes owners accountable for managing their team during bye weeks

dude...your missing the whole point. the owner doesn't care maybe, he is done for. so he might be helping out the the other team by starting his bye players and giving the win away.

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Regarding the player, it seems he or she has not been to active in the league anyways. :(

that blows...should be turned over to the commish to manage.
 
You know what blows? Having the most points scored against so far this season and having the fourth most points this season. Yet I'm second to last in the standings :(

My defense needs to step it up...oh wait. :confused:
 
This league has never had an official rule regarding bye week starters. I know there are some leagues out there that require a weekly "legal line up", meaning every starter must be active and not on a bye week. However, this is not a standard fantasy rule and is not even an optional rule in the settings for ESPN.

I've been running the MR league for three years now and we have tried to keep the game as simple as possible with standard ESPN rules. I have not gone as far as to create a league constitution with extra rules and policies. So far, it has not been needed.

I hear your concern about "collusion" in terms of a team owner leaving in their bye week players purposefully to give the other owner an advantage. However, I don't think this is the case with fireshot. Unfortunately, his team has not done well this year and I think he has just given up and is not paying close attention anymore. Sometimes that happens and when it does I keep that in mind the next year when it comes to sign ups for the league. If you will recall we heavily stress at the beginning of the year that we will only take active team owners.

The veterans of our league can tell you that I have not allowed previous coaches back after they failed to manage their team the previous year. Additionally, I have vetoed trades between teams where one was no longer paying attention and didn't care about his team.

That being said, my general outlook on bye weeks is that it is up the individual owner to manage how they see fit. Some owners pay close attention to bye's even in the draft and make sure not to cross over with their players. Others don't care and are willing to "take a hit" if some of their players end up with the same bye week. I don't see this as collusion, but as varying strategies for how to handle the season as a whole. Now, if you have proof or suspicion that a player is purposefully throwing a game by leaving their bye week players in then please let me know and I will further investigate.

It's funny you should bring up trades as a similar question came up in another league I manage. I ran four leagues this year all with the same rules. Here's what I put in my letter that went out in the other league.

It has come to my attention that there is some confusion about the trading of players in our league and thus, as Commissioner, it is my duty to provide some clarification and general education regarding the process.

THE RULES:
The trade rules for the league can be found on the league settings page at ESPN and are as follows:

Trade Limit – No Limit
Trade Deadline – Wednesday, November 23, 12 PM ET
Trade Review Period – 2 Days
Votes Required to Veto Trade – LM Only Vetos

ESPN further clarifies the Veto process:

“Votes Required to Veto a Trade - As the LM you have the option to select a trade veto policy, which is usually done to prevent collusion between two teams. The default setting is that only you as the LM can veto pending trades and you have the option to allow your fellow league members to vote on it. If you wish to allow your league owners to vote on pending trades, select the number of teams required to veto a trade.”

The standard policy for the league has been the same since it started three years ago and that policy is the ESPN default setting that the League Manager alone has the power to veto a trade. What that means is that when a trade is proposed the players involved have 48 hours to agree to the trade in order for it to process. Once it has been agreed upon the League Manger has to approve or veto the trade. The trade is processed once both players have agreed to the terms and the League Manager has approved the trade. 48 hours is allowed, but not required for the completion of the process.

I then went on to cite several online articles about trade policies that weigh the pros and cons of doing it various ways. The bottom line is I don't like allowing team owners to vote on trades. First, with an online league it's a time consuming process. Someone might not be able to vote or doesn't get to the vote in time. Second, I trust myself to be impartial more than I trust team owners to be impartial. For example, if a trade goes down that makes the team you are tied with for the division lead better, then why wouldn't you veto that trade? Evaluating trades is a difficult process, but from all the research I've done the commonly accepted reason for denying a trade is collusion and I think that the league commissioner is in the best position to judge that. If you would like for me to send you a copy of the complete letter I can as it goes into much more detail on the subject.
 
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This league has never had an official rule regarding bye week starters. I know there are some leagues out there that require a weekly "legal line up", meaning every starter must be active and not on a bye week. However, this is not a standard fantasy rule and is not even an optional rule in the settings for ESPN.

I've been running the MR league for three years now and we have tried to keep the game as simple as possible with standard ESPN rules. I have not gone as far as to create a league constitution with extra rules and policies. So far, it has not been needed.

I hear your concern about "collusion" in terms of a team owner leaving in their bye week players purposefully to give the other owner an advantage. However, I don't think this is the case with fireshot. Unfortunately, his team has not done well this year and I think he has just given up and is not paying close attention anymore. Sometimes that happens and when it does I keep that in mind the next year when it comes to sign ups for the league. If you will recall we heavily stress at the beginning of the year that we will only take active team owners.

The veterans of our league can tell you that I have not allowed previous coaches back after they failed to manage their team the previous year. Additionally, I have vetoed trades between teams where one was no longer paying attention and didn't care about his team.

That being said, my general outlook on bye weeks is that it is up the individual owner to manage how they see fit. Some owners pay close attention to bye's even in the draft and make sure not to cross over with their players. Others don't care and are willing to "take a hit" if some of their players end up with the same bye week. I don't see this as collusion, but as varying strategies for how to handle the season as a whole. Now, if you have proof or suspicion that a player is purposefully throwing a game by leaving their bye week players in then please let me know and I will further investigate.

It's funny you should bring up trades as a similar question came up in another league I manage. I ran four leagues this year all with the same rules. Here's what I put in my letter that went out in the other league.



I then went on to cite several online articles about trade policies that weigh the pros and cons of doing it various ways. The bottom line is I don't like allowing team owners to vote on trades. First, with an online league it's a time consuming process. Someone might not be able to vote or doesn't get to the vote in time. Second, I trust myself to be impartial more than I trust team owners to be impartial. For example, if a trade goes down that makes the team you are tied with for the division lead better, then why wouldn't you veto that trade? Evaluating trades is a difficult process, but from all the research I've done the commonly accepted reason for denying a trade is collusion and I think that league commissioner is in the best position to judge that. If you would like for me to send you a copy of the complete letter I can as it goes into much more detail on the subject.

i hear ya...but not happy with it. also, he has Nicks still in, and goose egg for the rest of the year. at least in week 12 i play him!
 
arghhhhhhhhhh

Desean! All I needed was 3 points! 3 points! :mad::mad:

Our matchup ended up in a tie and went to the WR tie-breaker. My opponent ended up with 1 more WR point than me. Out of curiousity, what's the next tie break level after the WRs or does it just end up in a tie?
 
arghhhhhhhhhh

Desean! All I needed was 3 points! 3 points! :mad::mad:

Our matchup ended up in a tie and went to the WR tie-breaker. My opponent ended up with 1 more WR point than me. Out of curiousity, what's the next tie break level after the WRs or does it just end up in a tie?

Doesn't that just suck.. I was in the same boat a few weeks ago. I needed one point. Just one to tie!!!!! Nope, denied. But that is what makes FF so much fun! LOL
 
Our matchup ended up in a tie and went to the WR tie-breaker. My opponent ended up with 1 more WR point than me. Out of curiousity, what's the next tie break level after the WRs or does it just end up in a tie?

You know, I don't know. It's never happened before and thus I haven't had to research it. I'd guess it either remains a tie or ESPN has another level of tie break. The initial settings for the league allow you to pick between WR points, RB points, or QB points.
 
arghhhhhhhhhh

Desean! All I needed was 3 points! 3 points! :mad::mad:

Our matchup ended up in a tie and went to the WR tie-breaker. My opponent ended up with 1 more WR point than me. Out of curiousity, what's the next tie break level after the WRs or does it just end up in a tie?
Heehee. :D

What a close one... I for sure thought I was going to lose going in to the Monday night game.

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Hey, Mscriv... I think the Never Say Never Trophy was assigned to the wrong team this week. Considering that I won by 1 WR tie-breaker point and you won by 10 points, shouldn't I get that Trophy instead of you? :)
 
Hey, Mscriv... I think the Never Say Never Trophy was assigned to the wrong team this week. Considering that I won by 1 WR tie-breaker point and you won by 10 points, shouldn't I get that Trophy instead of you? :)

I can take a look at it when I get home, but I have no control over the GMC trophies. They just started showing up automatically when I set up the other trophies for our league. I couldn't find any way to turn them off. I thought doing trophies would be fun, but it's been kind of a headache as I can't seem to figure out how they work. Awards that I thought would be assigned weekly haven't been. Awards seem to show up at random times. It's all been rather confusing. The user interface and set up of the trophy system at ESPN is very clunky.
 
Trade Deadline!

Trade deadline is Wednesday. Last chance to make some deals and with the number of injuries in the NFL some of you might want to take advantage of a trade.

I'm willing to move Rivers, Gonzalez, and maybe a few other players on my roster if anyone in interested.
 
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