That is indeed not the case. You can lose market share and increase your sales at the same time.
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iOS Lost Market Share in Numerous Countries From August to October 2017 as People Waited for iPhone X
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Yeah there is no way they could make me leave. I don't know anyone in my circle that doesn't use an iPhone. Between iMessage, iCloud (especially for the 300gb of photos I have in there), Shared photo albums and Calendars between all my family members it would be impossible to leave. Good news is I love the iPhone SE and think its the best phone on the market today. Once my wife held mine, she fell in love and had me trade in her 6s plus for it. I don't "keep buying their stuff", though. I have a first gen apple watch, a 2010 macbook pro that I've upgraded to keep it current, an old mac mini and an apple tv I got free. Their last 2 years of products have done nothing for me, but I'm not going to jump ship just because their products haven't progressed. I don't have a need for them in the first place since all my current equipment is working great.
Could it also be, that Apple finally crossed a line in terms of pricing with their lineup, so that some people leave iOS? Look here in Europe iPhone is very expendive!
Apple's piece of the smartphone ecosystem market fell in eight total territories during the August-October 2017 timeframe, according to new data tracked by Kantar Worldpanel. Echoing numerous stories from earlier this fall that reported people were waiting for the iPhone X and not purchasing an iPhone 8 or iPhone 8 Plus, Kantar's data showed a 7.6 percentage point drop for iOS in the United States when compared to the same year-ago period.
That number was higher in Great Britain where iOS dropped 8.5 percentage points from 2016, and was followed by Japan (down 6.9 percentage points), Germany (down 1.6), France (down 0.6), Italy (down 0.5), and Australia (down 0.2). While iOS dropped 7.6 points in the U.S., Android increased by 8.2 percentage points during this time.
In the same three-month period ending October of last year, 30.1 percent of iOS users in Europe and the U.S. had owned their iPhones for more than two years. iPhone X excitement further affected this statistic as well, increasing to 35.3 percent in 2017 and "signifying considerable pent-up demand" for the iPhone X, according to Kantar.
While Apple saw a drop in most countries, iOS share grew slightly in China during this period with a 0.5 percentage point increase, suggesting that the company's ongoing efforts to expand its foothold in the Chinese market are paying off. Apple CEO Tim Cook furthered that sentiment during a keynote speech at China's annual state-run World Internet Conference over the weekend, where he said that Chinese developers have earned more selling apps on Apple's iOS platform than developers from any other country.
Now that the iPhone X has been out for a month, sales figures for the smartphone have been positive and Apple has continuously improved delivery dates for the device over the subsequent weeks. Research shared by IHS Markit earlier in December reported that early adoption rates for the iPhone X -- looking at its first three weeks on the market -- beat the iPhone 8 and iPhone 7 Plus during similar timeframes. According to TrendForce, this strong iPhone X demand will help push Apple ahead of Samsung in Q4 2017 to become the world's largest smartphone maker.
Article Link: iOS Lost Market Share in Numerous Countries From August to October 2017 as People Waited for iPhone X
Must be a country thing, the rest of the planet uses universal apps so it doesn't matter what OS everyone is using. In my circle its roughly split 50/50 between iOS and Android and not a single iPhone X user among them - who pays $1000 for a phone?
I don't personally know anyone that would pay that! Seems insane. I'm over here struggling to swallow the 300 I paid for mine.
That's all very well until you consider new features like payments - Apple Pay will target, what, 10% of a country's smartphone-using population? That will mean, it won't get traction. Might make a bit of money for Apple but imagine when it gets to the point when you can't really use it as market share gets lower and lower.
WhatsApp has taken over in Europe and most other countries for messaging, I agree, not the US though.
Imagine if WhatsApp (Facebook) adds payments...it will kill Apple Pay.
Because Apple's quarter results give many courageous benefits to customers, "apple tell me the facts so I can forward them on the internet", you've got it all figured
Apple leads in all usage categories. For example, online shopping where iOS accounts for 5X the revenues as Android. Why? Because people with $50 phones don’t do anything with those devices. Don’t spend money on Apps, content, subscriptions, shopping and so on. The App Store has half the downloads of Google Play yet twice the revenues. Making each iOS use 4X as valuable as the average Android user.
Market share is pointless if those users aren't spending money.
I'm sorry but you think there is even the possibility that Apple lied in its quarterly results? Though there are examples of this happening, even with very large companies (Enron) the scale of the lie you are suggesting is pretty rare. And given I cannot find any examples of reporters questioning the broader terms of Apple's quarterly report I am comfortable accepting them as facts.Because Apple's quarter results give many courageous benefits to customers, "apple tell me the facts so I can forward them on the internet", you've got it all figured
You, of course, can believe whatever you want to believe. After all, there are plenty of people out there who believe the earth is flat; that human's never made it to the moon; that dinosaurs co-existed with humans. It is arguable that this ability to see patterns where none exists has evolutionary benefits. That said, I am more comfortable in my reality but will not deny you yours.
What a brilliant comeback.
Sorry, but Apple doesn’t lie when it comes to their quarterly reports or guidance. If they did then you’d be bringing up a news article about it as proof of their lying, instead of a posting a stupid meme.
Of course not, why would they..? If the "media" is not exposing it, it's not happening, we all know the trust hierarchy these days.
media > god > chuck norris
While you are entitled to your opinions, you are demonstrably wrong about sales channels:
Android is fine if you like it but it certainly does not do more... unless you count malware.
While you are entitled to your opinions, you are demonstrably wrong about sales channels:
Android is fine if you like it but it certainly does not do more... unless you count malware.
Well that's actually great to see... Assumed most people bought at the Apple Stores. My local AT&T store.. Very busy one... Said they sell about equal numbers of iPhones and Galaxies.
As for more... Pick a different word then. I can do things on the Note 8 that I can't on an iPhone... So maybe different is a better word than more. Most of the new things Apple's been rolling out in iOS I could care less about... Animojis for example. For me the word is more.
Not ever had a malware problem and seem to see more reports here of iOS malware than anything.
Glad you are happy but it is not impossible to switch. Had the same type of family photo share and easily switched to same on Google photos.
Anecdotes don’t mean much. You must have a very selective memory if you’re hearing more about iOS malware than Android. And since the iPhone outsells the Galaxy by at least 3x then your local store is a rare exception to the norm.
Japan was a surprise for me here, for decades Japanese are well known for being loyal to their own brands and products. There was a point in time when Japanese companies just keep their hightech gadgets in their country and don't even bother other countries, only share it years later because I guess they already got newer stuff and got bored of the old technology. When the first iPhone came out it was a laughing stock compared to Japanese smartphones. But look at them now majority of their population is going crazy with iPhone and Sony is dying. Steve can only dream back then to be like Sony, I wished he witnessed all of these including he most recent project the Apple Park.
I don't see it's happening near future. May be after two decades as China has more middle, upper middle and wealthy category population.
I was one of the 8% that graph talks about and for me it wasn't necessarily IOS11 by itself, it was a combination of things. For me the poor 4k upscaling on normal HD content on the AppleTV 4k was strike 1, strike 2 was animojis and the last straw for me was IOS11 being totally unusable on an Iphone SE.
I think it's pretty clear that Tim Cook is Steve Balmer 2.0 and in 10 years Apple will be a husk of it's former self just like Microsoft is now. I don't like the direction Apple is being taken and so I was the trial run for our family divorcing itself from the Apple ecosystem.
Android in large part gets its bad rap because Samsung makes garbage for people who don't know any better. All their phones are bloated to the brim and they use high end hardware to mask it but at this point with Bixby it's gotten out of control. I honestly don't know why their phones are rated as high as they are.
The real danger to Apple is not Samsung, it's Huawei. Rumor is that Huawei is going to make its US entrance with AT&T starting in 2018 and if that is true Apple is toast and so is Samsung frankly. When that happens the upgrade super cycle is going to be twice as bad as that quarter was at minimum. Apple has a reputation of being the 800lb gorilla when it comes to lawsuits and suppliers but as nasty as they are Huawei is worse, FAR worse and unlike Apple Huawei is a major player in just about every form of telecommunications. If Apple gets into a pissing match with Huawei they will lose.
I think it's pretty clear that Tim Cook is Steve Balmer 2.0 and in 10 years Apple will be a husk of it's former self just like Microsoft is now. I don't like the direction Apple is being taken and so I was the trial run for our family divorcing itself from the Apple ecosystem.
Android in large part gets its bad rap because Samsung makes garbage for people who don't know any better. All their phones are bloated to the brim and they use high end hardware to mask it but at this point with Bixby it's gotten out of control. I honestly don't know why their phones are rated as high as they are.
The real danger to Apple is not Samsung, it's Huawei. Rumor is that Huawei is going to make its US entrance with AT&T starting in 2018 and if that is true Apple is toast and so is Samsung frankly. When that happens the upgrade super cycle is going to be twice as bad as that quarter was at minimum. Apple has a reputation of being the 800lb gorilla when it comes to lawsuits and suppliers but as nasty as they are Huawei is worse, FAR worse and unlike Apple Huawei is a major player in just about every form of telecommunications. If Apple gets into a pissing match with Huawei they will lose.
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Time to move Windows Phone to "Other".
https://www.engadget.com/2017/07/11/windows-phone-support-ends/
https://www.engadget.com/2017/07/11/windows-phone-support-ends/
What are you talking about? First of all its not only previous iOS owners buying iPhone X, secondly this report includes sales data, people holding of will affect the result. The people behind it even mention it in the report:
Source: https://www.kantarworldpanel.com/global/News/Later-iPhone-X-Release-Hurts-Apple-Share