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iOS Proves Much More Popular Than Android for Black Friday Shopping
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In one way it is, but it depends how you look at it really.
I cant speak for every country, but in the UK at least there are a _LOT_ of unofficial/low spec Android phones on sale dirt cheap.
Having bought one for app dev testing, it was pure junk - you'd be lucky to load up the web browser, let alone the appstore.
I suspect a fair chunk of Android devices on the register are unused or are used by people who don't even have a data plan.
That being said it's still undeniably impressive that iOS continues to hold onto the usage part of the market.
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I assume you don't use a wireless network at home then, as that's significantly less secure than your mobile phone's data connection.
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"attacking" is debatable. So are levels of caring. Often my care is fleeting. Often what is seen as my "care" is nothing more than disputing FUD or BS. That's different than caring about the actual issue and more about the propagation of crap
Ahhh, but nevertheless you care. Sure, it may not be a strong passionate caring, but you care enough to take the time and effort to gather a few valid thoughts and post them to this site. And there is absolutely nothing wrong with that. In the past I've never attacked you for your position, and I've never insulted you. At least not intentionally (if I have then I apologize). That's the beauty of forums like this. We each can come here and (hopefully) respectfully argue for something we like. I can come here and state that I believe the Fender Stratocaster is a better guitar than the Les Paul. And it doesn't matter that it's simply MY opinion... I'm free to state it (on a different forum of course). I wish people would just let the fanboys of all camps just do their thing. Sit back and enjoy the show. There are far more important issues in the world for some of the others to get bothered by.
If you are so intense about something, maybe you should learn something about it.Maybe I should mention that I wouldn't order something through a computer over WiFi as well. I don't trust the security of wireless technology, seeing how easy it is for even third rate hackers to break in WEP and WPA. I don't know if cell phone data packets are encrypted or not, but I doubt it's any more secure than WPA.
Call me paranoid, but jumping at shadows has kept my personal info personal.
All my online orders goes through wired Ethernet.
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What you are missing is that these people actually believe it's more ok to attack the person than to attack a corporation or product or feature of a product. God forbid we comment on products, that's ludicrous!!!
Android is the new feature phone. What are they doing on their Android phone? Making calls, taking pictures, and browsing some social media, but that is about it.
Highly subjective reading of things on your part.
It's not about who's buying stuff on one device or another necessarily. What's interesting is that this is yet another bit of evidence that supports suspicions that Android devices simply aren't used to the extent that iOS devices are, market share reports notwithstanding.
For those of us interested in the shifting tides of tech and gadgets, it's very curious that Android has a much higher market share and yet appears to be used considerably less than iOS users for everyday tasks like shopping, web browsing and whatnot.
It is actually very interesting as long as you resist the temptation to read is as a bunch of fanboy crowing (and yeah, I'm sure some of it is that but not all.)
Majority Android users less tech savvy
Android has more market share because there are lower cost phones that people can afford. These customers just want a phone with a touch screen that can play music and maybe have Facebook. They probably don't buy online much at all even when on a computer. As long as it looks like a modern phone they're happy. As someone said, lower cost or free Android phones have replaced the flip phone.
Android has more market share because there are lower cost phones that people can afford. These customers just want a phone with a touch screen that can play music and maybe have Facebook. They probably don't buy online much at all even when on a computer. As long as it looks like a modern phone they're happy. As someone said, lower cost or free Android phones have replaced the flip phone.
I don't really understand why people would choose to shop with an iPhone or iPad...Mobile Safari is bad enough just trying to read articles on Javascript-heavy, HTML5'd-out pages.
But I really really don't understand why people would trumpet that more people choose to do this on iOS devices. Yes, Mobile Safari is the best web browser. We already knew that. That's all this data point proves, or conversely it proves that Android web browsers are terrible. It just strikes me as a bit desperate marketing by Apple to find some popularity benchmark they can trumpet over Android. But worse are the Mac pundits who proclaim it as "jaw-dropping" and that the metric shows people are "missing the bigger picture". Right. No, the picture is iOS has an adequate web browser, Android has a bad one. That's all.
But I really really don't understand why people would trumpet that more people choose to do this on iOS devices. Yes, Mobile Safari is the best web browser. We already knew that. That's all this data point proves, or conversely it proves that Android web browsers are terrible. It just strikes me as a bit desperate marketing by Apple to find some popularity benchmark they can trumpet over Android. But worse are the Mac pundits who proclaim it as "jaw-dropping" and that the metric shows people are "missing the bigger picture". Right. No, the picture is iOS has an adequate web browser, Android has a bad one. That's all.
Me too. How do they do comparative shopping on a device that is unable to display two apps/windows at once?
Also, the original report does not specify how much of shopping was done on phones vs tablets. Most likely the majority of mobile shopping was done on tablets and iPad share of tablet market in US is still very high.
Another possibility - iOS device owners have fewer desktops compared to Android device owners
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So, tech savvy iOS device owners shop using iPhones while less tech savvy Android users shop on desktop computers?
Great to see. There's only one platform that counts when it comes to engagement with users and that is iOS.
Marketing by Apple? Do you mean IBM? What does Apple have to do with revealing this statistic? If you're referring to Apple's usage share stats in the keynote, why would that be desperate? You don't think a company should tout the percentage of its users that are apparently using the device for various things, more than the competition? It implies there is something about the device that makes it better suited.
And shopping might be a bit harder on an iOS device than a Mac, but with sites like Amazon, you have to do little more than a couple of taps and enter your password to purchase just about anything.
Really was not looking at Web Browsing as a feature. I see it more as making a call with todays products.
Your points are taken. However, like you, I made purchases over the weekend on an iOS Tablet. Not an Android Tablet. We were in the majority by a sizable amount.
Market share vs usage.
Apple users buy for others online and Android users buy for themselves in person?
The thing is that it is easy to track an iOS device because there is only one version of everything - one web browser engine.
It is much more complicated on Android. On the galaxy browser, in fact many will set it to "desktop" user agent by default. Quite a few 3rd party Android browsers default to "desktop" or "ipad" user agent. On top of that many users (with limited data plan) uses server side compressed pages browsers like OperaMini. All these scenario will give an inaccurate picture of Android web usage (and may also inflate the usage of ios Safari browser).
And how about web usage in apps? All iOS apps with embedded safari webview, I bet will register as iOS web page access. On Android developers can deploy their own embedded web view plugin which will never register as an Android usage.
It is much more complicated on Android. On the galaxy browser, in fact many will set it to "desktop" user agent by default. Quite a few 3rd party Android browsers default to "desktop" or "ipad" user agent. On top of that many users (with limited data plan) uses server side compressed pages browsers like OperaMini. All these scenario will give an inaccurate picture of Android web usage (and may also inflate the usage of ios Safari browser).
And how about web usage in apps? All iOS apps with embedded safari webview, I bet will register as iOS web page access. On Android developers can deploy their own embedded web view plugin which will never register as an Android usage.
I don't know why the data for this isn't mentioned in the articles. I think it'd be interesting to see how they compare as well.
I don't imagine the numbers would mirror the success Apple has with iOS in comparison to Android. It's odd interesting that iOS dominates Android so thoroughly in all the usage statistics even though Android is ahead in market share. I guess this time around the battle is quite different from the Mac VS. Windows days.
This explanation is often given when web statistics are given between iOS and Android, but without any actual evidence to back it up.
The majority of Android users are going to use the stock browser, Chrome or "Browser" if they're somewhat old-school. Most people are not going to change the browser user agent settings. And then of course, there are dozens of iOS browsers which can also spoof their user agent. Do you have proof that no one used iCab with an IE 9 user agent to purchase anything?
I'm going to go out on a limb and say the numbers are negligible for both sides, and what we're dealing with is mostly the stock browser on both platforms.
It would be interesting to see Windows compared to iOS in this case too. It seems that iOS users are online much more than their Android counterparts. Any idea how accurate these web traffic stats are?
I guess most of them went to MacRumors Forums.
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Maybe I should mention that I wouldn't order something through a computer over WiFi as well. I don't trust the security of wireless technology, seeing how easy it is for even third rate hackers to break in WEP and WPA. I don't know if cell phone data packets are encrypted or not, but I doubt it's any more secure than WPA.
Call me paranoid, but jumping at shadows has kept my personal info personal.
All my online orders goes through wired Ethernet.
Mobile phone network is safer since you're moving and you're not connected to the same cell tower always.
Just shows you that Android consumers are some of the cheapest out there. Been around many iOS app releases with a huge chorus of "We want it for Android!" right after the release.
Marketing counters with "How much you willing to pay for this app?" and it is either "Free!!" or silence. Doesn't work that way boys and girls.
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Most of them are only paying their monthly wireless service fee and nothing else. While Google flouts their Android market share of total devices, the Android aftermarket is almost non-existent unless you have a subscription service or ad revenue behind your product.
When you see who is buying apps and accessories for their smartphone, it is anywhere from 80% to 90% on iOS. Best line I heard about this is if you are willing to drop a few extra hundred on a smartphone, you have cash for apps and accessories.
Marketing counters with "How much you willing to pay for this app?" and it is either "Free!!" or silence. Doesn't work that way boys and girls.
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Most of them are only paying their monthly wireless service fee and nothing else. While Google flouts their Android market share of total devices, the Android aftermarket is almost non-existent unless you have a subscription service or ad revenue behind your product.
When you see who is buying apps and accessories for their smartphone, it is anywhere from 80% to 90% on iOS. Best line I heard about this is if you are willing to drop a few extra hundred on a smartphone, you have cash for apps and accessories.
Let me ask you one other thing. This web statistics is gotten from where? Most probably U.S sites on US servers serving English pages. Go to an Asian country and get the statistics there and you will the opposite result. And you probably know that the rest of the world has moved on to Android.
I feel sad when I have friends who talk about "Well this blah blah blah tablet is like $200 cheaper than an iPad!" I almost always want to respond with, "Yep. It's $200 CHEAPER than an iPad. I can get a bicycle for much less than a motorcycle, but they look very similar. However, one is going to get me much farther in the same amount of time."
But I don't keep going for too long knowing how much money Walmart makes off people not seeing past the initial price of things.
I got my iMac a few years ago for $1199. I upgraded the RAM to 12GB and the hard drive to a hybrid 2TB drive (from 4GB and the stock 500GB drive, respectively), and I bought an external BD reader. I had to take it in once for the optical drive not working, which got fixed for free as well as a display issue that was under recall and I didn't know about.
So in I think three years I have spent an extra $200 or so on the hardware upgrades and upgrading to Mountain Lion. I spent $40 on Pages and Numbers, which are now free for new buyers. I haven't had to fork out $60 or $80 for security software and annual subscriptions to update the virus info. I haven't lost extra resources because that crap is running in the background. I didn't have to fork out at least $200 on Office. I didn't have to fork out $200 to upgrade to the latest version of Windows.
Sure, my iPad cost $600 upfront. But I actually use it every day. From what I gather people may actually use a Nook or Kindle tablet for reading books. But otherwise, actual usage is way behind iPads. I have two older relatives who just got iPad minis and seem to love them a bunch.
But I don't keep going for too long knowing how much money Walmart makes off people not seeing past the initial price of things.
I got my iMac a few years ago for $1199. I upgraded the RAM to 12GB and the hard drive to a hybrid 2TB drive (from 4GB and the stock 500GB drive, respectively), and I bought an external BD reader. I had to take it in once for the optical drive not working, which got fixed for free as well as a display issue that was under recall and I didn't know about.
So in I think three years I have spent an extra $200 or so on the hardware upgrades and upgrading to Mountain Lion. I spent $40 on Pages and Numbers, which are now free for new buyers. I haven't had to fork out $60 or $80 for security software and annual subscriptions to update the virus info. I haven't lost extra resources because that crap is running in the background. I didn't have to fork out at least $200 on Office. I didn't have to fork out $200 to upgrade to the latest version of Windows.
Sure, my iPad cost $600 upfront. But I actually use it every day. From what I gather people may actually use a Nook or Kindle tablet for reading books. But otherwise, actual usage is way behind iPads. I have two older relatives who just got iPad minis and seem to love them a bunch.