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I don't agree. Do people think of the Nook as an Android device? The Kindle Fire?

Google certainly doesn't consider them Android devices.

Regardless, though, “non Android” Android-based devices (including a ton in Asia) do often get counted in stats about Android “sales” volumes/installed base.

(And by “sales” they often mean “shipped”—which is to say, at best, they’re really reporting FUTURE sales, while Apple reports actual PAST sales. In a growing smartphone market, if you compare future numbers to past numbers, future is going to look higher. That’s at best; at worst, not all of those shipped phones actually sell. Certainly that happened in a big way with the many Android tablet blunders.)

So Android’s numbers have been skewed high in a number of ways, compared to Apple’s simple “sold to real customers” numbers.
 
Android has a dedicated geek user-base that I'm sure uses data at or above the rate of a typical iPhone user, but there are a lot more "normal" people who just buy the biggest, flashiest, hippest phone pushed on them by the salesperson and that phone is almost always an Android phone.

Those so call geeks are fake, wannabes. Many iOS users are better real tech people.
 
Perhaps, but they could just as easily switch to Bing, or something else as a default. But at this point, apple's focus appears to be on maps at this point, based on how many corporations they have gobbled up in the past few years.

But why divert mobile advertising dollars to any competitor at all? Google (Android) has its own search engine. Microsoft (Windows Phone) has its own search engine. Why doesn't Apple have its own search engine???
 
Do Android users not surf the web or something? I thought Android had trounced iOS in installed base?

97% of all web traffic from pad computers is from iPad. And there aren't any (successful) iPod touch competitors, Android or otherwise. I'm sure iPad and iPod touch web traffic are significant portions of iOS's total.
 
Android users probably just use it as a phone. Those noobs have no idea what they can do with that larger screen and 4G network.

I don't think that is the problem. I think the problem is that it is too complicated to use at times and if you have Flash running, it dries up you battery. Plus, some of them (like my wife) have an iPad (she has my iPad 1) and that is way more convenient for browser use. 4G network does not make a noticeable difference in browsing of pages. Media content, maybe. Why maybe? Because if you have an entry level android with a crappy display, your video streaming might as well be sufficient on 3G - and even if you have a good display, it still is a freakin' hand held device. What can you really see on a display smaller than the average hand? It won't be movie theater experience.

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Those so call geeks are fake, wannabes. Many iOS users are better real tech people.

Oh come on... plenty of good tech people on both sides.

I think he was being ironic :D
 
Comscore published a report earlier this year that broke out tablets and smartphone web traffic. If you look at iPhone versus Android (excluding iPod Touch) then Android was still ahead in the USA and Argentina, but behind in other countries.

Here is the breakdown for the USA:

Tablets Only: iPad 97%, Android 3%

Handhelds Only: iOS 40%, Android 46%

iOS Handhelds = iPhone + iPod Touch

Handheld + Tablet: iOS 53%, Android 36%

This report was from May 2011 -- So according this, iOS is on the rise of the total at least. Up to 60% from 53%.

Just as a follow-up to this... For Apple to surge to 60% from 53%, they need not sell more iPhones than Android phones, they can also gain share if people switch to iPad browsing from desktop browsing. The larger percentage of browsing that gets done on the tablet versus the desktop, the better this number will get for Apple. Of course, more iPhone browsing helps too. It would really be nice to see some recent numbers out of Comscore, since they broke this down by tablet versus phone versus other handheld device.
 
Agree, but I am so fed up by opinions that Android is for geeks and only non-tech people buy iOS devices.

As a Unix guy using an iPhone, I just don't let it get to me. There's plenty of tech and non-tech people on both sides. Android isn't geekier than iOS, nor does it require "running mods and custom ROMs" like people like to claim around here. I know non-tech people with Android phones that run the vanilla stuff shipped by OEMs with nary a usability problem.

But your statement of "the better tech people run iOS" is plainly false. There's nothing better about me than any other Unix guy on my level of expertise just because of the OS of his phone.
 
You know, I still don't get what their is to rave about just because more people browse the web on iOS? It still doesn't mean it's more popular etc? I just see these results as a pointless attempt at willy waving? It just means more iOS users go on the web with their devices.
 
Well, we can argue these numbers all you want, but now that iCloud is out, that number for iOS devices just skyrocketed...
 
You can't be real, those things can't be said with a straight face

Apple is on the road to unhinging themselves from a lot of outside dependencies. They are large enough, broad enough, certainly wealthy enough, and can command enough human capital from a large talent pool to do it.

It's just a question of time and money.
 
Makes sense.

Yap, it makes the graph very doubtful

JavaME are the 200's of million feature phones out there. The average person is upgrading their feature/messaging phone to the iPhone. These people are looking for simplicity and functionality over everything else. Raw feature count is far less important than usability and finish.

Symbian represents the 100's million Nokia phones where people are used to the concept of the "smartphone" and the complexities they offer. They are upgrading to Android. These people are looking for features and functions over everything else. Raw features are much more important than usability and finish.
 
Google can't be pleased that it can't milk its users for more advertising dollars as they apparently aren't using Google's "free and open" mobile OS to browse the Web.

Speaking of which, isn't it time Apple came up with its own search engine to power iOS and stop feeding its former friend/current enemy Google?

Last month Google mentioned durring the conference call that over 2/3 of their mobile advertising profits were iOS generated.

Apple will not compete against Google head to head in the search space. They may partner with other database to make Siri "smarter" and bypass the need to Google more and more but this will not be head to head competition.
 
I think this is probably the case. I can see many buyers of the low cost to Free Android based phone playing with the internet for a bit and then it's a novelty that they just don't use much.

3.7" or 5" screen... you can only surf so long on the smaller screens before you want your iPad or laptop back. Nice in a pinch, but hardly a preferred surfing method.

Yeah that is where Apple really shines. Crystal clear 3.5" screen with no lag and the inventors of moderen day mobile web browsing. It is an unmatched experience. No wonder Android users don't use the internet as much.
 
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