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iOS will lose out to Android within less than a year.
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Like the saying goes, 'what goes up, must come done.' Nothing goes up forever. The competition between Android and iOS inspires innovation that makes both products better. On with the innovation ... .
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If 75% of the smartphone market was owned by one solitary smartphone handset, the world would be a very boring place.
With (according to CNET) about 36 devices released (or soon to be released), Android's growth should easily bring their numbers past Apple's iPhone numbers soon if not already.
Now if Mr. Softy can just make it happen with Windows Phone 7 System phone system, and Nokia gets a fresh start and BlackBerry releases a phone that's more like their PlayBook, we gadget lovers will feel like hippies in the summer of '67!
If 75% of the smartphone market was owned by one solitary smartphone handset, the world would be a very boring place.
With (according to CNET) about 36 devices released (or soon to be released), Android's growth should easily bring their numbers past Apple's iPhone numbers soon if not already.
Now if Mr. Softy can just make it happen with Windows Phone 7 System phone system, and Nokia gets a fresh start and BlackBerry releases a phone that's more like their PlayBook, we gadget lovers will feel like hippies in the summer of '67!
This is a U.S only report, not an international statistic. I think everyone in here is fully aware that Nokia is the biggest handset maker in the world no question... just sayin..
I haven't had an opportunity to play with any Android device, so for now I've got nothing to compare it with. I am happy to stick with Apple
No one cares about marketshare.
Just ask Apple investors. $285. $8 billion in profits (2009). Apple must be doing something very right.
Lets look at marketshare leader Nokia: -$1.2 billion in profts (2009).
Hmm... I guess making a zillion different ****** phones doesn't work very well in this world.
Just ask Apple investors. $285. $8 billion in profits (2009). Apple must be doing something very right.
Lets look at marketshare leader Nokia: -$1.2 billion in profts (2009).
Hmm... I guess making a zillion different ****** phones doesn't work very well in this world.
i actually originally stated thread as: Mobile War (Metrics/Statistics) but nobody clicked. Changed to a more alarmist thread title and everyone starts commenting.
Android might be increasing in market share but that does not mean apple is losing and neither does it mean that Android will over take iOS. Basic mathematics says that if the number of smart phone users increase, which is happening right now, and more of those go to android instead of iphone (buy1get1 and because android is on all carriers) then the percentage of iphone users will drop only because the total amount of smartphone users has increased.
Also I do not see any threat to the iOS for one main reason. That is that android allows the carriers to do what they want to the os. While an iphone wont have carrier bloatware, Android phones do, especially verizon phones.
Also I do not see any threat to the iOS for one main reason. That is that android allows the carriers to do what they want to the os. While an iphone wont have carrier bloatware, Android phones do, especially verizon phones.
Getting knocked out of first place will be good for Apple.
Uncle Steve has gotten too arrogant in the past few years.... if he starts getting his ass kicked then maybe he'll start giving customers more of what they want (less restrictions, hardware that isn't flawed).
Uncle Steve has gotten too arrogant in the past few years.... if he starts getting his ass kicked then maybe he'll start giving customers more of what they want (less restrictions, hardware that isn't flawed).
Keep in mind most android owners got their phone for free or really cheap (buy 1 get 1 free).
It's easy to have high marketshare when your giving away your product
Completely false and inaccurate. Get your facts straight before posting such misinformation.
the guy is just insecure. seems like fanboyism has tamed down a bit here. not that fanboyism is bad. but it seems as though iPhone owners are turning more ambivalent / accepting to other phones out there, which is great!
Love the iPhone4, but like many others, Carrier 1st, phone 2nd.
I don't see iPhone losing much market share to Android. Most people who use an iPhone for a week completely fall in love with it. I'm talking from personal experience as well as everyone I know who has had one with the exception of one person.
Now WinMo, Blackberry OS, and all of the other ones are totally screwed.
Of course Android is going to outpace iOS. It's on every carrier with multiple phones.
Did anybody think this wouldn't happen? As stated before, many Android phones are cheaper, too. And many people locked in to Verizon, Sprint, or T-Mobile won't have a choice if they need a new phone before their contract is up.
Now WinMo, Blackberry OS, and all of the other ones are totally screwed.
Of course Android is going to outpace iOS. It's on every carrier with multiple phones.
Did anybody think this wouldn't happen? As stated before, many Android phones are cheaper, too. And many people locked in to Verizon, Sprint, or T-Mobile won't have a choice if they need a new phone before their contract is up.
I really do hate giving props to ATT what with being a former employee as well as complete hater in general... but they really have made significant upgrades along the entire west coast (Interstate 5) corridor. Over the last three years, I have noticed a significant upgrade. I had almost very little holes with Verizon, and it seems to be that way with ATT now.
I'm not saying you don't have bad coverage with ATT where you live, but just as there is fanboyism with devices, there are some with carriers, too. Just because they weren't very good to you or your friend two, three, five years ago doesn't mean they haven't made big improvements since then.
Well played!
Someone's not thinking clearly about this "market share" idea. Seriously.
For one, most people do NOT care a bit. Shareholders might, but the majority do not.
So looking at this fact, a non-shareholder's "market share" is solely him/her self.
Thus, if I own an iPhone the market share for this market (myself) is saturated at 100%. Same results if I had an Android phone.
The stats are also clearly slighted. The iPhone only resides upon 1 carrier at the moment in the US, while Android exists upon many. Comparing them within the US market is like comparing hammers to blizzards.
For a proper comparison, right now, one would have to use the statistics from a non-US country where the phones are available on the same carriers with the same data plans.
Use that data, then you *might* have a better understanding on who is what and why. Otherwise, the statistics (and those that put them together) look rather ignorant.
For one, most people do NOT care a bit. Shareholders might, but the majority do not.
So looking at this fact, a non-shareholder's "market share" is solely him/her self.
Thus, if I own an iPhone the market share for this market (myself) is saturated at 100%. Same results if I had an Android phone.
The stats are also clearly slighted. The iPhone only resides upon 1 carrier at the moment in the US, while Android exists upon many. Comparing them within the US market is like comparing hammers to blizzards.
For a proper comparison, right now, one would have to use the statistics from a non-US country where the phones are available on the same carriers with the same data plans.
Use that data, then you *might* have a better understanding on who is what and why. Otherwise, the statistics (and those that put them together) look rather ignorant.
There are many phones running Android on every major carrier in the US along with whatever is offered world-wide. It would be pretty sad if they didn't overtake Apple in market share.
Windows still has a much larger user base than OS X but that doesn't make the Mac OS any less awesome. I actually preferred the days when Apple had less market share. They seemed to care about the customer than the current situation. Maybe it was only because they had to care. I don't know. Either way, market share doesn't matter to me as long as the product I'm using works well.
All these analysts can take their numbers and shove them.
Windows still has a much larger user base than OS X but that doesn't make the Mac OS any less awesome. I actually preferred the days when Apple had less market share. They seemed to care about the customer than the current situation. Maybe it was only because they had to care. I don't know. Either way, market share doesn't matter to me as long as the product I'm using works well.
All these analysts can take their numbers and shove them.
Apple can easily create a massive surge in sales, especially now with sales brisk in china. Just trot Steve Jobs out on stage with the usual lofty claims, lots of buzz words, and a shiny new device to sell. Fanboys will be awestruck, wallets will magically open wide, and Apple's coffers will be overflowing. Once again, all will be right in the world....
True, but that was when the company was known as Apple Computer. Today renamed Apple Inc. it's priority is redefining its marketing skills to grow its position as a consumer electronics cash cow, not a creator of advanced technology.
So what? Really, this doesn't matter at all. If we were in infant stages (like 3 years ago) this could have been a problem (like how it went for WebOS). iOS will never go down because Android gets bigger. It gets bigger because it will be slapped on every POS hardware out there and it will be fragmented like hell. Hell, current flagship Android tablet devices don't even have the right OS for it: they are already two steps behind Apple and will always be.
What I would really like to see: hard software sales figures. How many purched apps on Android Vs. iOS (quantified in currency and in absolute numbers). Really, a Android doesn't wet my pants with the current low quality software market for it. And it doesn't seem that it's turning around anytime soon.
My guess is that we will always see the top of the mobile software business at the App Store i.e. iOS. The rest will always need to follow Apple, always a few steps behind.
What I would really like to see: hard software sales figures. How many purched apps on Android Vs. iOS (quantified in currency and in absolute numbers). Really, a Android doesn't wet my pants with the current low quality software market for it. And it doesn't seem that it's turning around anytime soon.
My guess is that we will always see the top of the mobile software business at the App Store i.e. iOS. The rest will always need to follow Apple, always a few steps behind.