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Is iOS6 a disappointment from what you learned in the keynote?

  • It was NOT a disappointment.

    Votes: 760 50.9%
  • It was definitely a disappointment.

    Votes: 732 49.1%

  • Total voters
    1,492
What are people complaining about?

IOS now DESTROYS andriod on these key key key features


Camera - With the 4s's ****ING AMAZING camera its no match and more importantly Icloud is such an amazing feature wow

Messaging - Imessage compared to standard sms doesnt even compare

Maps- now with maps apple has upped the ante and is barely behind google instead of ridiculously behind

Facebook - Not only with integration BUT once FB redoes there app I cant imagine how fast it'll be


now that chrome is on the app store I still dont belive its better than the andriod version but still

Wow at least be more subtle about your trolling. Saying apple maps is better?And android has Google talk which is the pretty much the same thing as imessage except its cross platform. Android has had facebook integration for like 3 years now. The galaxy s3 and one x/s all have better cameras than the 4s. The front cameras on those completely blow away the iPhones front camera as well.
 
Wow at least be more subtle about your trolling. Saying apple maps is better?And android has Google talk which is the pretty much the same thing as imessage except its cross platform. Android has had facebook integration for like 3 years now. The galaxy s3 and one x/s all have better cameras than the 4s. The front cameras on those completely blow away the iPhones front camera as well.

You're not sounding much different than he did.
 
Maybe because it's true depending who you talk to?

Depending on who you talk to? :D

Apple is dominating the profits in the mobile phone industry. Continues to increase their market share year over year. And is second in market share despite demanding almost double the ASP of their competitors. Objectively, they aren't "having trouble just staying competitive."

Look, let's be honest....it's not a coincidence why Apple is starting lawsuits right and left with Google.

Maybe because they are not. These lawsuits with HTC, Motorola, and Samsung have been ongoing for years.

The Droid Razr Maxx isn't the best selling on Verizon for no reason.

It isn't the best selling smartphone on Verizon at all. The iPhone is. By a large margin. (You are probably referring to a survey that indicates that the RAZR MAXX is the best selling phone in Verizon Retail Stores in June.)

People are buying into Android, larger screens and LTE and in that phone's case, crazy battery life.

Yep. Don't forget to mention pricing too!

As an Apple fan, they need to come up with something more than Siri or adding maps and navigation which Android phones have had for years already. They need to start pushing the envelope IMO or they are going to be left in the dust unfortunately.

We'll see! :)
 
That's only because you have your Apple ears on.

Probably not.

It's kind of easy to see when someone is just spouting off information from a Tech sheet

"720 front facing camera is moar bettr!!"

But the negates discussion on why Apple is such a popular system. My contention is that consumers don't want "overwhelming" features unless they are easy to use.

Even with Siri. Some of my friends with 4s tell me that they use it sparingly. I understand this because I myself realize that if something fails even a few times in the beginning, confidence in that tool wanes quickly.

iOS 6 is beautiful in the way it further smooths the iOS sculpture but doesn't erase or detract many of its classic lines.
 
I don't see why not. At some point, Apple will need to reinvent iOS in a grand way. iOS7 or 8 is a perfect opportunity to refresh the interface. It does not have to be drastic, but it needs to be noticeably different.

Why? Because you're bored? Don't be ridiculous. They are going to go with what works, not change things just for the sake of change. There's nothing wrong with how iOS works. At all. I don't want them to change it unless they have a better idea.
 
Probably not.

It's kind of easy to see when someone is just spouting off information from a Tech sheet

"720 front facing camera is moar bettr!!"

But the negates discussion on why Apple is such a popular system. My contention is that consumers don't want "overwhelming" features unless they are easy to use.

Even with Siri. Some of my friends with 4s tell me that they use it sparingly. I understand this because I myself realize that if something fails even a few times in the beginning, confidence in that tool wanes quickly.

iOS 6 is beautiful in the way it further smooths the iOS sculpture but doesn't erase or detract many of its classic lines.

Uneducated consumers like yourself just want the logo. Why do you think Beats by Dre are popular? Because of their superior sound quality?
 
Uneducated consumers like yourself just want the logo. Why do you think Beats by Dre are popular? Because of their superior sound quality?

Beats by Dre has the ingredients needed for their target market. Bass heavy headphones that are flashy. Don't hate them because they're successful.

I've been an an Apple user since the early 90s during phases where it wasn't so cool to be an Apple user.

I give credit where it's due. Android has some good stuff but in the end it's not going to matter because they don't have the advantages that Apple has in OS X, design experience and a fanbase that extends decades.

Not saying that Android is wrong for everyone but for many it's simply not that compelling.
 
Iphone really is a great device. In my persoal opinion next phone i get might be the s3 i like how it is smooth up there with iphone and there are a lot of people that don't like the look of it but i love how simple it looks ahaha.

like i said iphone is one sweet phone with a lot of great features, i haven't read any rumours for the new iphone and its ios but i think the main reason i didn't like(not) as much anyway) is because its too fancy for my taste and the ios started to become boring after a while. I can't get the feel of making it my own if that makes sense lol.

Android is something i want to try and see how it goes. Still cannot wait to see how the new iphone turns out.
 
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Primary reason why iPhone 5 is out of the question for me. If Apple placed more effort into the OS rather than useless lawsuits iOS would be at the top. But Jelly Bean is now the king from a pure OS standpoint.
I might get the iPhone 5 for my wife but that's only because it's tailored for newbies. No offense to my wife but iOS is made for tight pants wearing young people and old people not willing to learn a powerful OS. I wish my wife was in the first group. :D
 
Primary reason why iPhone 5 is out of the question for me. If Apple placed more effort into the OS rather than useless lawsuits iOS would be at the top.

I'd think the bigger problem would be if Apple was using software engineers as lawyers. Or lawyers as software engineers. :D

By the way, does that make Samsung, Motorola, Nokia, Microsoft, and Google out of the question for you?
 
Beats by Dre has the ingredients needed for their target market. Bass heavy headphones that are flashy. Don't hate them because they're successful.

I've been an an Apple user since the early 90s during phases where it wasn't so cool to be an Apple user.

I give credit where it's due. Android has some good stuff but in the end it's not going to matter because they don't have the advantages that Apple has in OS X, design experience and a fanbase that extends decades.

Not saying that Android is wrong for everyone but for many it's simply not that compelling.
Beats by Dre. Apple.

Buy the logo.
 
Primary reason why iPhone 5 is out of the question for me. If Apple placed more effort into the OS rather than useless lawsuits iOS would be at the top. But Jelly Bean is now the king from a pure OS standpoint.
I might get the iPhone 5 for my wife but that's only because it's tailored for newbies. No offense to my wife but iOS is made for tight pants wearing young people and old people not willing to learn a powerful OS. I wish my wife was in the first group. :D

Agreed. Jelly Bean has shown to be a much crisper and vibrant operating system. I love it on my nexus and it out performs my 4s hands down.
 
Uneducated consumers like yourself just want the logo. Why do you think Beats by Dre are popular? Because of their superior sound quality?

I like my iPhone and have been an iPhone owner since the original and will stay an owner till Apple makes iPhones no longer for many reasons.

Why?

My phone does everything I need and it works flawlessly with my Macs. It's the perfect iPod for when I want music, it works perfectly with my car stereos and plugs in and plays seamlessly in both of my cars, it's easy to text on and easy to dial a call while working and my hands are full.

Please explain to me why I need to find another phone. People sound uneducated when you make general uneducated statements that you made above.
 
Probably not.

It's kind of easy to see when someone is just spouting off information from a Tech sheet

"720 front facing camera is moar bettr!!"

But the negates discussion on why Apple is such a popular system.

"moar bettr" very apt :)
 
Uneducated consumers like yourself just want the logo.

Uneducated? Oh please! Give us a break.

I have an iPhone and the logo on it is INVISIBLE because it has a cover! Logo is just a logo. Personally i have iPhone because.... guess what? It works perfect for what i need it. Am not the type of person who wants to stare at the widgets or change the animated screen saver every 10 minutes. I have tried ice cream sandwich and though i admid that it does more things than iOS does, and i really like google, it is no where as smouth and pleasent to use as iOS. Well, at least not for me on a samsung galaxy!

If people are happy with the devices they use, why would anyone like yourself have any problem with it?
 
Three questions...

If your iPhone is not operating correctly or you don't understand something, where do you go?

If your very manufacturer fragmented Android phone has the same issues, where do you go?

Where do you think you will get the best diagnosis and customer care?

If you honestly answer those questions, regardless of your phone politics, you would never buy anything but an iPhone.
 
Software problem: the internet
Hardware problem: back to the manufacturer
 
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If your very manufacturer fragmented Android phone has the same issues, where do you go?
You go to the manufacturer :rolleyes: Seriously, support is the responsibility of the manufacturer. In Apple's case, the manufacturer is the sole curator of the platform, and, big surprise, Apple happens to have a good customer service track record. In Android's case, the manufacturer does not develop the platform, Google does. Some Android manufacturers offer better support than others. Arguments against Android manufacturers cannot and should not be levied against the Android platform itself.

What Apple fanboys often don't understand is what Android is. It's a free and open source operating system, and any manufacturer can use it. If I had the resources, I could design and market my very own Android phone. Fragmentation of the platform as a whole is generally a much greater issue for Android developers than it is for consumers, unless you're on some very old version of Android.

If you want a unified, "iPhone-like" or "iPad-like" experience (or rather, the closest Android equivalent) with a quickly up-to-date OS, buy a Galaxy Nexus, Nexus S, or Nexus 7. The fact that these devices are open to (completely optional) user modification and development by default is a bonus. These devices are officially supported by Google, and are supported with updates for as long as the hardware is capable. Google has a little bit of control over most Android devices in their "Google apps" certification process, controlling the distribution of apps like Gmail and Google Play, but not much. If you expect Google to be able to directly support the myriad of hundreds of Android devices out there, then you haven't the slightest clue how Android works. You can make as many arguments against Android's open nature as you want, but that's just the very nature of the OS. If Apple had gone this way with iOS, you would be seeing many of the same things.

If you want everything iOS has to offer, the only choice you have is the iPhone 4S or the new iPad (or perhaps, in a few months, the iPhone 5 instead), because Apple likes to hold back features from its old products to sell its new ones. Android manufacturers are often guilty of the same things, but many of the same arguments iOS fanboys like to use against Android hold for Apple too, and too often, Apple's motives are much more nefarious - where is iOS 6 for the third generation iPod touch, which has the same hardware as the iPhone 3GS, and where is iOS 6 for the original iPad, which has far more capable hardware than the iPhone 3GS? Where is Siri and turn-by-turn navigation on the iPhone 4 and iPhone 3GS? Where is Siri on the iPad 2?

Unlike Google, Apple doesn't fragment its platform because of a lack of control, it fragments its platform intentionally to get consumers to replace their products with new Apple products. If that's the kind of ecosystem you want to support, then go right ahead.
 
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I really like the minimal style of the latest Android apps.

IOS feels a little web 2.0

I blame Steve Jobs obsession with rounded squares and the gradient tool.
 
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