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why? These things have nothing on real laptops. This has no real OS.. can't install real applications and no file system. I have an ipad 2. DOn't get me wrong, it's fun, but don't pretend a limited ipad beats out a real laptop in raw speed/gpu power.

Apologies... I missed the sarcasm tags in my earlier post..... :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
 
these tests are not at a level playing field. The ipad 2 is running at 1024x768 and the xoom is running at 1280x1024. So, the xoom is has about 60% more pixels to render.

You're a little off..... XOOM screen is 1280 x 800 pixels. Sure, it's got more pixels, but not a huge amount more.
 
make up your mind. You said you got it a few weeks ago and in the same long-winded sentence, you said it feels as "quickly" as it did a few MONTHS ago. Which is it? I mean if you're going to be an apple fan, at least keep your story straight, moreso in the SAME SENTENCE>
What he wrote was really clear to me - an iPad 1 that you bought a few weeks ago is still as fast and as capable as it was months ago, when there weren't any iPad 2 rumors. Nothing in his post suggests that he owned one a few months ago.
 
I detect some slight jealousy. Why, because you can't afford one yourself? Trying to convince yourself how "crappy" this product is.

Well, he apparently has a Mac Pro, so that's definitely not it; or he might not have any money left to spend after his other purchases.
 
these tests are not at a level playing field. The ipad 2 is running at 1024x768 and the xoom is running at 1280x1024. So, the xoom is has about 60% more pixels to render.

it just motorolla's fault of putting a 1280x1024 screen in it.
 
these tests are not at a level playing field. The ipad 2 is running at 1024x768 and the xoom is running at 1280x1024. So, the xoom is has about 60% more pixels to render.

Irrelevant. You can't change the resolution of either device. So the extra pixels on the xoom actually slow it down. Bad luck. Sorry, but it's a level playing field if we're talking about real world performance. And we should be, because anything else is just measurbating.

Now, a different test may show, for example, the same game running on both, and the xoom may show more details because of its higher resolution. In such a test with that result, the xoom would win.
 
Apple fanboys have said that specs don't matter. Now they do? It seems to me they only say this when they know it should be more.
 
I want to know why someone would mark this as a 'negative'? Must be a Fandroid as an earlier poster mentioned.
 
But, but, after reading thousands of comments from Engadget, I thought the Xoom is so much more superior even compared to the iPad 2?

Did I become dumber after reading all those comments on Engadget?


Seriously now - does anyone else think that the comments on Engadget are even worse in terms of quality compared to the comments that you read in YouTube?
 
Apple fanboys have said that specs don't matter. Now they do? It seems to me they only say this when they know it should be more.

You're confusing specs with performance measurements. The former are just numbers, the latter directly affects the user experience (tm), the optimisation of which is Apple's primary focus.

This article shows performance test results. You are right that the article does talk about some specs such as numbers of pipelines and chip numbers etc, but that is not the main point of the article, nor has a single post in this thread to date mentioned those specs. The main point are the test results, which directly improve user experience (tm).
 
Apple fanboys have said that specs don't matter. Now they do? It seems to me they only say this when they know it should be more.

Fandroids tell us that specs matter. Now they don't? It seems to me they only say this when they think they can beat Apple on clock cycles.
 
Apple fanboys have said that specs don't matter. Now they do? It seems to me they only say this when they know it should be more.

Well, since in other aspects where Apple has had inferior specs (say a 6750m compared to a 6850), but in that respect it doesn't really affect the functionality of the product so severely. The Xoom is hampered in this respect since this is an evolving market where GPU power is increasing @ a geometric rate, and has a chip orders of magnitude slower than the iPad 2 which will affect functionality. Apple PC = mature technology and market, Tablet/iPad = new/immature technology where an increase in power comes in leaps and bounds and affects functionality in a major way.
 
Apple fanboys have said that specs don't matter. Now they do? It seems to me they only say this when they know it should be more.

It's not specs, it's speed...... that's what translates into a better user experience.

XOOM fans like to tout the higher resolution of it's screen, but it only looks good straight on. It's off-axis viewing is poor compared to the iPad. More pixels doesn't necessarily mean a better quality screen overall.

Apple cares about the overall user experience of their products. They aren't concerned with just compiling a laundry list of specs like many other manufacturers do.
 
You know, all the screen problems, etc and now they have to come up with this half baked benchmark to show how good a crappy product is, wew!

Get a grip, the iPad has seen its day, time to move on.

Who wants a third peice of electronic junk to carry around anyway?

Not I.

This actually did make me lol. Serious or sarcastic, that is the question!

Apple fanboys have said that specs don't matter. Now they do? It seems to me they only say this when they know it should be more.

Specs only matter when your device of choice is better than the competition. :D
 
so we now know that the A5 just destroyed the tegra 2 in the xoom but how about that snapdargon powering the touchpad. it seems as though the graphics is really nice according to engadget and others. i hope it leaves that in the dust as well
 
Ergh?

these tests are not at a level playing field. The ipad 2 is running at 1024x768 and the xoom is running at 1280x1024. So, the xoom is has about 60% more pixels to render.

I thought the screen size was 1280x800. So your statement is false.
 
You know, all the screen problems, etc and now they have to come up with this half baked benchmark to show how good a crappy product is, wew!

Get a grip, the iPad has seen its day, time to move on.

Who wants a third peice of electronic junk to carry around anyway?

Not I.

Great, one more ipad2 for the rest of us. Thanks.

...but you're still a troll...
 
Fandroids tell us that specs matter. Now they don't? It seems to me they only say this when they think they can beat Apple on clock cycles.

The thing is all fanboys, no matter what the product is they support, are irrational and will use whatever argument they can to criticise/praise a competing/favored product. They should be ignored, like creationists and other religious gits.
The fact of the matter is, in this sense specs matter a hell of a lot for this market, especially when it affects functionality. Apple has in their mainstream computing products been able to compromise in raw on paper GPU power due to it being a mature product, and the increase in power being marginal and unnecessary to produce a useful product that does a certain task just as well if not better (software efficiency) than a windows competitor.
The most recent instance of where GPU power really was atrociously lacking was the previous gen MacBook Pro with a GT330m; a truly terrible graphics card by anyone's standard compared to contemporary technology. Outdated, slow, power consuming and hot.
 
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