*This* I could probably even live with, but I'd have to judge that when I've got one sitting in front of me. I have seen pictures where the effect was far worse, covering a third of the screen. Shame you hardly ever see some pictures without the effect. Nasty side effect of the Internet. One hardly ever posts stuff that is faultless.
iPad 2 - safe to order now (screen bleeding issue)? Opinions appreciated.
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*This* I could probably even live with, but I'd have to judge that when I've got one sitting in front of me. I have seen pictures where the effect was far worse, covering a third of the screen. Shame you hardly ever see some pictures without the effect. Nasty side effect of the Internet. One hardly ever posts stuff that is faultless.
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That's like saying "hey, I have a dent on the side of my car, but as long as I don't look at that side of the car my car isn't really dented". You don't have to look for the light bleed issue - it is fairly obvious to most people over the course of normal use. Normal use includes using the iPad in a dark room to watch movies or play games.
You go ahead and bury your head in the sand. Denial is a powerful thing, especially with people who already have a weak mental disposition. But don't suggest to others that they behave as irrationally as you.
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... because you are the type of person who will avoid looking at that part of the screen in order to avoid the realization that you decided to keep a defective product. The light bleeding is caused by uneven stresses and pressure put on the LCD panel by the frame and other components. A simple proof of this is to press along the bezel in the areas of the bleed - you will notice them get better or worse as the frame flexes. This is not an inherent issue with the technology, but rather an inherent issue in how these units are designed and correspondingly assembled.
If you don't want to look at the part of your screen that has bleed in order to believe it doesn't exist, that's wonderful for you. You opted to keep a product that has an identifiable problem that you, yourself, admit, which is your choice. Just as it is everyone else's choice to return a defective product until Apple can address the issue.
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Why is 50% brightness your test standard vs. 30%, 100%, 70%, 22%, etc.? Did you just decide this on your own?
it's cos 50% is the way the iPad's slider is set to by default in the multitasking menu when you swipe to the left
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peaceActivist
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+OVER9000!!!!
Seriously...nailed it. Buy a ferrari that leaks small amounts of oil..."yeah its cool, all cars do it." see how many car enthusiasts will ignore that.
"within spec", "normal use", these are all phrases that you were taught from marketing media.
I was told from apple care that screen bleed has affected a large batch of iPad 2s and that they arent suppose to be in customer hands, which is why they are replacing them with no questions asked. Its all logical and points to why it hasn't gotten mainstream. Just slow down and think about it.
OP: should you cancel your order? nope. should you be worried about screen bleed? only if you use your ipad at night. and thats saying a lot. As many people are saying "not within typical usage using it in the dark" theres more than double the people ACTUALLY USING IT IN THE DARK! You know why? cause thats normal and typical usage. Just last night I saw someone at a karaoke bar using an iPad 2. Should I have slapped it out of his hand and screamed "NO! NOT TYPICAL USAGE!", people will do what is within their needs. For some posters on here to delegate how it should be used is just ridiculous.
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My suggestion to the OP would be to wait until anecdotal reports show the issue has been resolved. You will never hear a statement from Apple regarding the issue, but once you can confirm newer shipments don't have the problem, that's when I would buy. If the problem isn't fixed and you desperately need an iPad, I'd buy an iPad 1 at a steep discount and wait for iPad 3. Otherwise just wait. The iPad 2 is not a "must have", but the iPad 3 may be.
Apple is in such a rush to get these units out the door, they had to sacrifice some Q/C in the hopes that the majority of customers wouldn't notice.
Apple is in such a rush to get these units out the door, they had to sacrifice some Q/C in the hopes that the majority of customers wouldn't notice.
MrMac'n'Cheese
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It's never safe........to order or get into the waters.......
bobobenobi
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Agreed. My iPad 1 doesn't have this problem, and neither does my MacBook Air, my Samsung 244T monitor, my Samsung UN55C8000 TV, my Nintendo DS Lite, or my Dell LCD monitor at work.
Come to think of it, I've never had backlight bleed on an LCD screen in any device I've ever owned. I've seen it on other people's devices, but never my own. I consider that a defect, and it's the reason I returned my iPad 2.
If that pic is a representation of reality as you see it then I'd say that is one of the best Ipad 2 screens I have seen
If that pic is a representation of reality as you see it then I'd say that is one of the best Ipad 2 screens I have seen
Well I did as requested. Took a pic of my screen in the dark at 50% brightness to show no bleed. So there you have proof that not all are faulty
If mine had been anywhere near as good as that I would have kept it. Nice to see there are actually some units out there that are good. Thanks for sharing
I would treasure that machine
Not that unique, I've seen 4 like mine
Stealthipad
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The iPad 1 had the same bleeding . . . That should answer your question.
thesiren
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Wow, someone is mighty defensive. And melodramatic to boot!
Comparing a $500 mass-produced, Chinese manufactured, assembly-line factory electronic device to a custom built, Italian made, $90,000 a u t o m o b i l e that, if faulty, could result in severe injury --or worse, death -- is ludicrous, sensationalistic, and most importantly, an epic failure in the realm of competent discussion.
Your argument that the light bleed is "fairly obvious" to "most people" over the course of "normal use" is chock full of qualifiers. Who are you trying to convince? Us? Or yourself?
I would have never known my iPad had light bleeding if it weren't for this forum. I had to go looking for it. And even then, I had to reference the pictures people posted to fully understand what I was supposed to be looking for.
The bottom line is that "faulty" and "defective" are subjective and ultimately relative to each user's definition. My white iPad is neither faulty nor defective because it has insignificant amount of light bleed ONLY when I alter the settings and circumstances under which I personally use it. The light bleed is simply a non issue for me. I had never noticed it before coming across these threads, and I still don't notice it now. Who is looking at the corners of their screen anyway???
In no way does the light bleed interfere with how my iPad functions, performs, or meets my expectations. That would be the definition of "faulty" in my book; a hardware issue that which renders the device useless or nonfunctional.
cmvsm
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Your analogy sucks, but really its you who doesn't understand what is at hand here. Ignorance is a powerful thing as well, but just keep burying your head in the sand and act like you know nothing about LCD technology. And don't suggest to others who do, that they should act as irrationally as you are.
Who is accusing whom of melodrama?
If you could not see a big glowing halo on your screen when you booted, then, well, hmmm... I think the issue is a little deeper than your need to view it on a forum
Many of us have said, many times, we own a lot of lcd tech of which none suffers in this way.
I have a £3k tv, its fine. I have an ipad1, its fine. I have a macbook pro, fine, a 6 yo Dell latitude, fine, a htc android, fine, etc etc. An Ipad2, not fine
Many of us have said, many times, we own a lot of lcd tech of which none suffers in this way.
I have a £3k tv, its fine. I have an ipad1, its fine. I have a macbook pro, fine, a 6 yo Dell latitude, fine, a htc android, fine, etc etc. An Ipad2, not fine
yes, but are any of them are as thin as the iPad 2? nope.
thesiren
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Who is accusing whom of melodrama?
If you could not see a big glowing halo on your screen when you booted, then, well, hmmm... I think the issue is a little deeper than your need to view it on a forum
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that's it? that's your comeback?
Are you not aware that the iPad's factory default brightness setting is 50%?