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If you don't know what Tegra is, you have no right to discuss tech like this. So please go troll elsewhere.

Or go read up on AnandTech all about Tegra and mobile GPUs
Did you not read that article yourself?
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It has eight cores. Find me a single core GPU, please.

Besides Tegra2 is an entire chipset, not just a GPU.
 
Xbox 360 - 500 Million Triangles/sec
PS3 - 250 Million Triangles/sec
SGX543 (Ipad2?) - 35 Million Triangles/sec

Thanks :) I'm sure there are other factors to considering but from that alone it seems unlikely the iPad will be able to power any games beyond the existing resolution. Likely limited any of these retina apps to standard apps ignoring anything graphic intensive.
 
Definitely doable. Apple need features that stand out like these to keep the focus on the iPad, and not the truck load of new tablets coming on sale this year.

Apples close relationship with Intel could mean adoption of the Sandy Bridge architecture in the apple chips? Hugely improving battery life and efficiency.

Plus Intel and NVIDIA settled their dispute which will allow better graphics on macs in the future. (not really iPad related).

Apple chips are currently based on the ARM Cortex A8, Sandy Bridge is a totally different architecture (x86_64). You can't mix and match pieces of them.
 
A increase in resolution from 1024x768 to 2048x1536 is a quadrupling, not a doubling, of resolution.

It is doubling the resolution and quadrupling the number of pixels.

If it was quadrupling the resolution then it would be eight times the pixels since a resolution is (some number X some number).
 
Don't forget that Apple is also making money from the AppStore, so the more of them in people's hands, the more of a loss they can take on them.
I'm not as sure as you are that it's doable.

Yeah, and that's the key to the cost "issue". When the first iPad came out there was next to no competition. Now the first wave of tablets are out/coming out.. Apple has to keep up on the hardware end and has to keep the "wow factor" up. The average person doesn't know or care about processors and things like that. The screen really IS the most important feature of an iPad to a normal user. It's the display and the input device.

Even in the worst case scenario... if costs are high, it could even end up being like a "loss leader"... make little or none on the iPad itself, but get it back from the software and then in future iPads as the prices drop.
 
....This means nothing. Developers are simply preparing their apps for future device releases. OBVIOUSLY, the iPad will receive the retina display, if a simple name of x2 meant anything about the iPad 2, I highly doubt Apple would have leaked it so easily.

...This is Apple people. Not Microsoft. Apple doesn't leak like a sieve.
 
well if all these wait for ipad 2 rumors from inside sources are correct this is it. apple has looked into what others are bringing to the table and they just rocked them. The screen is one of iphones biggest selling points now coming to ipad. apple is putting a lot into their ios devices because the app store brings them a lot of revenue. they keep adding all this to attract more and more developers. if they keep this at $500 this tablet will be a monster. all they need is a faster cpu and this thing will be my computer away from my computer. i cannot wait. lets go apple
 
Ever seen these guys?
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Apple made it clear that multitouch is the future of the Mac with OS X Lion.

Yes i've seen those, i own several. The fact however still stands, Macs don't ship with magic trackpads. There are also a hell of a lot of people still using older hardware - do they just not get a slice of the action? Their computers are still very powerful (Previous gen Mac Pro's etc).

Besides, this is a moot point, you're vastly underestimating the amount of work it would take to port those apps to the Mac ..
 
it's not as bad anymore for me to wait for the iPad 2. i was pretty bummed to read the headline that it wouldn't come out until april, but if it's possibly got the new A5 qualcomm chip, an sd card slot, usb spot, AND the huge screen resolution increase, then hell yes! bring on the April release date.!

Do some research, the A5 chip has nothing to do with qualcomm and it is based off the ARM Cortex A9. Qualcomm is a completely different company.
 
Hmmm, made me think again about the possibilities of the AppleTV if it gets this rumored chipset. With a bluetooth controller, it could rival the consoles...especially if it stays at $99.

The AppleTV could be quite the sweet gaming machine. The thing holding it back is storage and lack of a "controller" although I suppose people can argue an iPhone is good enough. I do remember them patenting a wii-like remote for the AppleTV years ago. Maybe we will see it in the next revision. The storage issue could be avoided if they hosted apps in the cloud. Although I wonder how good those could even be.
 
....This means nothing. Developers are simply preparing their apps for future device releases. OBVIOUSLY, the iPad will receive the retina display, if a simple name of x2 meant anything about the iPad 2, I highly doubt Apple would have leaked it so easily.

...This is Apple people. Not Microsoft. Apple doesn't leak like a sieve.

You have not been around here long enough.

Unibody MacBook Pros - Leaked
iPhone 4 - Leaked
"Fatty" Nano - Leaked
Apple TV 2 - Leaked


...the list goes on an on.
 
I feel this is likely true. I don't see why people think this resolution is such a problem.

Sure it will require a better GPU. It won't really require all that much CPU though. It's not like more actual CPU-based processing is happening to achieve the higher resolution. It's all the GPU that's pushing the pixels.

I can imagine 3D games will probably just 'switch' the resolution of the 3D rendered component of the graphics down if it isn't powerful enough to render polygons at native res.

But for things like displaying photos, reading ebooks, and basic animations etc, I can't see the new GPU struggling too much.

Remember, resolution is more to do with the amount of frame buffer, not so much the actual 'power' of the GPU. Lots of GPU power is generally needed for 3D, particularly both high resolution and lots of effects. But 2D compositing of text and images could probably almost be done on the current iPad's GPU, if you added a bit more VRAM to the mix.

As for the production of the screens... again... they have the retina phone displays - surely they would just use the same manufacturer? Technically the ipad 2 screens are LOWER density than the iPhone 4 screens, so from a technical point of view, they may actually be easier to produce?

As for power requirements of the screen... they'd probably be about the same. Reduce the light output / power requirements of each pixel by 75%, shrink them, then quadruple the amount of them. Should equate to the same power output / light output? (I'm no expert in this area).

And an iPad having a higher resolution than a desktop or notebook isn't really that game changing. It makes sense for desktops and notebooks to have lower pixel density because notebooks and desktops are used for pixel-perfect content creation. While an ipad is almost completely for content consumption and enjoyment, where highere pixel density can make for a better viewing experience.

Scottie
 
This would be awesome. I also think Apple is most likely to double, it makes things so simple. Unlike this Android world where you just don't know what resolution you're running on, must be a developers nightmare. This is one of the reasons why it is great having one company do both the hardware and the OS.
 
Yes i've seen those, i own several. The fact however still stands, Macs don't ship with magic trackpads. There are also a hell of a lot of people still using older hardware - do they just not get a slice of the action? Their computers are still very powerful (Previous gen Mac Pro's etc).

Besides, this is a moot point, you're vastly underestimating the amount of work it would take to port those apps to the Mac ..

Apple is "excluding" these people with Lion.
Multitouch is the Mac's future. It's buy these peripherals or be left behind.
 
There is only one big, and I mean really BIG issue at stake here.

What with all the talk of new gpu chips, dual core CPUs more ram and now retina display.

We could be setting apple up for the biggest fail ever if none of this appears. It's almost looking like a young child expecting Santa to make their wish come true and then being devastated when thing don't appear.

That's my only worry with all this excitement. It's going to make it 100 times worse if none of this true.
 
As for power requirements of the screen... they'd probably be about the same. Reduce the light output / power requirements of each pixel by 75%, shrink them, then quadruple the amount of them. Should equate to the same power output / light output? (I'm no expert in this area).


Scottie

Pixels on LCD and IPS displays don't emit the light. That's the backlight's job.
 
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Defender2010 said:
Why are you all being so pessimistic? Don't we all as followers of this rumors site believe that Apple can make something amazing again with the next iPad? We should!
As for the cost comments...with the amount of iPads sold last year, Apple could easily keep the costs similar to the current models. Even with a new doubled up pixel display and an A5 chip (that chip in itself should be even more power friendly than the current model and offset the new displays power draw) and a bigger battery, and the promise of large orders to manufacturers and part suppliers based on the first iPad sales! Need I go on? My point is I am sure all the complainers will eat their words when the new iPad with a new display is revealed and it will be within the current pricing zone. Ohhh ahhhh.. Its January, be happy!

+ 100. Thank you for explaining how I feel. ;)
 
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