Right...
So you're comparing the PSP2, which has been announced, but doesn't have an exact ship date, or doesn't have a price... To something that hasn't been announced at all, and moaning about non existent specs? Great.
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Right...
So you're comparing the PSP2, which has been announced, but doesn't have an exact ship date, or doesn't have a price... To something that hasn't been announced at all, and moaning about non existent specs? Great.
I bought this iMac in November. I'm not sure what your definition of a "real computer" is, but this one is pretty fly. The display is astounding compared to the standard LCD it replaced. I have to keep the brightness at 50 percent so I'm not blinded.
I know Sony never announced the price, but 3 to $400 is what its going to go for and I personally think it won't be above $300 because it will hurt sales of PS3 then and it will give it a competitive edge to the 3DS.
But even if it is $400, my comparison is still valid.
Thanks for sharing.
You still paid too much.
If Apple went with an iPhone 4 form-factor for the iPad - ditching the beveled edges - they could make it thinner while cramming in more battery. Double win.
Its not about what I want to do with an iPad. Its that they could have given us what we wanted most and it wouldn't have been a problem. Thats what I'm trying to say here.
This is a pretty irrelevant argument. Sony has already said they are expecting to sell the PSP2 at a loss in order to get those specs and have a low enough price to drive adoption, something Apple is not going to do. What's more, the PSP2 like other handheld consoles are developed to be overspecced at release because they are intended to be a stable platform for 4+ years. The expectation is that over several years, manufacturing advances will allow the manufacturing cost of the PSP2 to go down over time so that they can make hardware profits towards the end of it's life. However, in 4 years time, the PSP2's specs won't look so impressive compared to handhelds that will be coming. That the PSP2 went with quad core CPU and quad core GPU while the iPad 2 is going to have dual core CPU and dual core GPU is actually very reasonable. That means iOS devices could be near hardware parity with the PSP2 within 2 years, which is very short in console lifespan terms. Now if Apple intends for the upcoming iPad 2 to not change for the next 2-3 years to recoup costs, then by all means they would be speccing it to the PSP2. Otherwise Apple will move incrementally.
x2. c'mon apple. seriously?
However, they do have a pretty amazing way of making their software run incredibly efficient with no where near the processing power (in terms of both processor speed and RAM) of devices on other platforms.
And that statement holds true for basically all Apple products. Their consumer level computer line...iPhones...and now iPad.
Think about it, the base model Macbooks and iMac's are sold with only 1gb of RAM...where as on a Windows machine, you really wouldn't dream of less than 2gb, and actually now, 4gb of RAM seems to be a new standard. However, with only 1gb, you still are getting a snappy, reliable, efficient machine.
Apple has an advantage over other companies in the tech world because they are the only company that is fortunate enough (or smart enough, or whatever enough. However you choose to look at it) to be the maker of both the software AND the hardware end of things.
By making, writing, designing, and building both the hardware AND the software...things have been optimized to "just work". Things run quickly with less horsepower, if you will, than other devices from other companies.
So I guess what I'm getting at here, in a non bias manner, is that by comparing ONLY the spec sheet of device A along side of device B isn't an accurate measurement of speed, quality, and efficiency. The real world speeds, benchmarks, and comparisons are something that, as a consumer, one should be more concerned with. Not a spec sheet.
The more i read on here, it's absurd how much people can complain about this device.
IT HASN'T BEEN ANNOUNCED YET. NOTHING IS FOR CERTAIN.
i think we should all chill out on this stuff, and until something official from apple is announced, hold your reservations until then because this is ri-goddamn-diculous. jeeeeeeeeeeez
IT HASN'T BEEN ANNOUNCED YET. NOTHING IS FOR CERTAIN.
i think we should all chill out on this stuff, and until something official from apple is announced, hold your reservations until then because this is ri-goddamn-diculous. jeeeeeeeeeeez
Your right about in time iPad will be more powerful. But Sony said that they don't want to sell the NGP at a loss, I'm almost sure of it. I will edit my post if I can refind the link.
EDIT: found it
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/107334-Sony-Claims-NGP-Will-Be-Affordable
Have you tried dragging something in Numbers? Hideously slow. If you want 4x the pixels, you'd better accompany it with some serious increases in #pixels per second you can animate & the # of pixels you can remember. (Processor speed * # of cores + RAM) Right now, apps easily max out the iPad on both. But I agree, before iPad can replace real books or ebook readers it needs higher resolution and a faster search algorithm in the iBooks app.
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more speculation with no evidence.... however very accurate.
no it is not, if it does cost $400, the carrier will be paying some of that,
look at the iphone it costs $600@16gb
+ the ipad is a completely different piece of technology, it has a display twice as big and it is much thinner!
yes there will be psp2 w/o 3g but those will have weaker specs or a higher price
I would gladly pay 30 bucks for blockbuster PSP1-2 games and 10-20 for lesser known titles. As long as its the full game.
iOS games are nice and all, but they are mostly just to kill time. They hit the very casual gamers and no one else.
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I'm thinking we're going to see a higher res screen but double the current res (not 4x like iPhone). the front camera has to happen. I really couldn't care less about the rear one. It would be a ridiculously large point n shoot. Higher specs all around.
Anyways, with all that stuff, I'd love if there was a surprise or two left. Paying for stuff with the near field stuff they've been talking about with the next iPhone is awesome, but what about similar tech to RECEIVE payments in an iPad? If any iPad could receive payments from any iPhone, Apple would have a pretty nice point of sale anywhere system set up.
I'm a smarty pants.
I'm thinking we're going to see a higher res screen but double the current res (not 4x like iPhone). the front camera has to happen. I really couldn't care less about the rear one. It would be a ridiculously large point n shoot. Higher specs all around.
Anyways, with all that stuff, I'd love if there was a surprise or two left. Paying for stuff with the near field stuff they've been talking about with the next iPhone is awesome, but what about similar tech to RECEIVE payments in an iPad? If any iPad could receive payments from any iPhone, Apple would have a pretty nice point of sale anywhere system set up.
I'm a smarty pants.
But why is that 'what you want most'?
Apple has never been about throwing lots of hardware at a problem. They're more about having just enough hardware to run the software correctly.
If you can't think of something that you want to do with an iPad that the rumoured hardware/software won't allow, what is your justification for wanting more? It will only add to the price and drain the battery quicker!
I tried to look up "no entry" too, but there was no entry for that either.I looked up "real computer" in the dictionary, but there is no entry.
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-01-27-sony-ngp-price-will-be-affordable
The actual quote is a little more ambiguous and hopeful than hardware profitability being assured or a firm requirement. They'll most likely have to stick with what most consoles do which is launch at a loss and eventually move to profitability, hopefully faster than their previous experience with the PS3 in this case.
If it costs $400 it will cost $400... no contract. That doesn't make any sense. And the baseline PSP2 will not be less powerful, for obvious reasons.
Sony has already said it will be affordable. I'm just trying to say for what inside the iPad Apple could have easily afforded to put in a higher res screen. I know it has a bigger screen, but the cost difference isn't THAT much.
Yes, because professional photography/videography was the market they were trying to capture.
Actually, the camera in my iPhone 4 is exceptionally nice.
What cost difference? I don't see a price for a PSP2. Do you?
And which iPad are you talking about? Cause it's pure speculation what's coming in the next one...
so your mad at apple for not using a 2048x1536 screen?! that doesn't even exist?! not to mention the graphics and cpu power needed push it
I can imagine the "A5" having a dual-core CPU @ 1.2GHz, 512MB RAM, and an SGX543, but not the SGX543MP2; the latter is overkill and would make it harder for iPad 2 to get a retina display in the future.