iPad 2 to Match iPhone 4's 512 MB of RAM?

[QuarterSwede]

How much memory my iPad has with 1 Safari tab, and email running in the background.

I really do hope for 512MB

Dude, give your eyes a break and put a decent theme on SBSettings

Serious SBSettings

Oh, and

 

[Blu101]

SHAMEFUL it is not 1GB

Is Apple wanting Android Tablets to roll over them? In 1 year, 1GB and 2GB will be STANDARD.

My coffee maker and weed whacker has more RAM than the iPad.

Apple just needs to eat the $1.99 and get on with it.

The 2005 Lotus Elise has a 1.8L, 190 HP engine.

The 2005 Boxter S has a 3.2L, 280 HP engine.


The Elise smokes the Boxter in the 1/4 mile (13.5sec for the Elise vs 13.7sec for the Boster).


If you shop for specs on paper, you're going to buy the Boxter S. You're a PC. And you just lost the race in front of your girl and everyone else on the street. Who's the idiot now?


Sources:

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/coupes/112_0408_2005_lotus_elise/index.html

http://www.mpt.org/motorweek/reviews/rt2427.shtml

It's proof positive that Apples learned from the past that they can expertly apply the art of manipulation of numbers, reports, the press, and sooner or later people will stop seeking the truth. Thus when reported from any source, the fanboys jump on them, discredit them, and the issue is successfully covered up. It's part of Apples long term dumbing down so no one asks or cares. Simple & effective.

It's proof positive that MS and its partners know how to fool the dumb general public into thinking they are buying a better product with fancy specs on paper. The rest of us know that if a 1gazillion gig RAM Android performs a task in 0.03sec and a 256MB/512MB RAM iPad performs the same task in the same 0.03sec, it makes no difference out in the real world. So keep buying your plastic pieces of cow dung with crap operating systems and keep telling yourself: ignorance is bliss.

 

[rovex]

I think the processor upgrade wasn't just a bump. It's now dual core which is a huge improvement and whatever graphics chip they're using is a massive improvement (there is speculation that it's the same as what's in the Sony NGP). I won't buy an iPad till the res is bumped though. My iPhone 4 has seriously spoiled me in that area.

But that would mean they would be using a quad core GPU. That's impossible considering it only has 512 of ram and a dual core CPU.

It's a dual core GPU I'm sure of that.

a question of note to everyone, what will you say if the IPad 3 doesn't have a retina display? Will the Apple tards just say (as ive read) "it's unnecessary"? LOL!

 

[tripjammer]

Hmm... Let's just suppose the iPad 2 is 512 MB. The chart you quoted would be one reason why Apple might not want to disclose the amount of memory -- because of the perception that even 512 MB is not competitive with those other devices.

The fact is iOS is VERY efficient, so it makes far better use of its memory than those other devices. So 512 MB on iOS would almost certainly be better utilized than the 1 GB on those other devices.

My point has been that despite how efficient iOS is, there is a point at which there is no getting around a shortage of physical RAM. At 256 MB, iOS 4 is already a bit cramped. At 512 MB, it has a lot of head-room -- more than half free.

From what I can tell, with 512 MB of RAM, the device should perform better than those other devices that have twice that amount of memory.

But if the iPad 2 only has 256 MB, then THAT's too cramped.
512 MB would be fine; 256 MB would cramped.

1 GB would be "nice" but is probably overkill...well except that even on my iPhone 4 with 512 MB of RAM I run out of physical memory after about a week of normal use.
I am in the habit of rebooting my iPhone 4 every 1 to 2 weeks to free the memory.

I wouldn't even be participating in this discussion if we KNEW that the iPad 2 was going to have 512 MB. If it only has 256 MB, then it will be a deal-breaker for me.

I mean I expect the iPad 2 should do at least as well at multi-tasking as my iPhone 4 -- so if the iPad 2 has half the memory, then it's just not worth the money to me because it will be LESS productive for me than the iPhone 4.

How could it ever be okay for the iPad 2 to only be capable of LOWER PRODUCTIVITY (less multi-tasking, less memory to open large documents) than the iPhone 4? It would be absurd.
Apple has to be smart enough here to do the right thing and put (at least) 512 MB in the iPad 2!

iMOVE does not work on the old Ipad...but works on the new Ipad 2...but it works on the itouch 4th gen...so...

Its gonna have 512MB of ram folks...just wait till ifixit does it tear down on next friday!

 

[Mattie Num Nums]

The 2005 Lotus Elise has a 1.8L, 190 HP engine.

The 2005 Boxter S has a 3.2L, 280 HP engine.


The Elise smokes the Boxter in the 1/4 mile (13.5sec for the Elise vs 13.7sec for the Boster).


If you shop for specs on paper, you're going to buy the Boxter S. You're a PC. And you just lost the race in front of your girl and everyone else on the street. Who's the idiot now?


Sources:

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/coupes/112_0408_2005_lotus_elise/index.html

http://www.mpt.org/motorweek/reviews/rt2427.shtml





It's proof positive that MS and its partners know how to fool the dumb general public into thinking they are buying a better product with fancy specs on paper. The rest of us know that if a 1gazillion gig RAM Android performs a task in 0.03sec and a 256MB/512MB RAM iPad performs the same task in the same 0.03sec, it makes no difference out in the real world. So keep buying your plastic pieces of cow dung with crap operating systems and keep telling yourself: ignorance is bliss.

Well I have an Exige so let me step in on this analogy. It doesn't work. The Elise is a Track purpose built car. It has a 1.8L Toyota 2ZZ-GE (from the Celica GT-S, Matrix XRS, Corolla XRS) and weighs under 2100lbs. The Boxster is a Luxury Sports Roadster built for comfort and like almost all German cars the ability to comfortable drive on the Autobahn (IE 6 Cylinders +, Good Torque, Smooth handling.) The car also weighs more than 1000lbs more which is what gives away its speed to the lean Elise. The Elise has no carpet, no amenities, nothing. The Boxster has leather seats, Navi, comfort, leg room, etc. Two different cars built for two completely different reasons.

 

[Blu101]

But that would mean they would be using a quad core GPU. That's impossible considering it only has 512 of ram and a dual core CPU.

It's a dual core GPU I'm sure of that.

a question of note to everyone, what will you say if the IPad 3 doesn't have a retina display? Will the Apple tards just say (as ive read) "it's unnecessary"? LOL!

Do all the PC lovers like you with a join date of Feb or March 2011 have that much free time on your hands to come over to an apple site and troll?


Is it because of all the downtime with Windows crashes and freezes?

 

[Stridder44]

And what's the actual standby battery life on all those other devices?

How many apps are available for them? Which ones can run the huge app Infinity Blade?

Which ones can I buy this month for under $750?

What? An extra 512MB of RAM isn't going to a) decrease the battery life or, b) make the product jump to $750.

And how are apps in any way relevant to my point?

 

[Mattie Num Nums]

Do all the PC lovers like you with a join date of Feb or March 2011 have that much free time on your hands to come over to an apple site and troll?


Is it because of all the downtime with Windows crashes and freezes?

Says the old timer whos been here Since Sept 2010.

 

[QuarterSwede]

But that would mean they would be using a quad core GPU. That's impossible considering it only has 512 of ram and a dual core CPU.

It's a dual core GPU I'm sure of that.

a question of note to everyone, what will you say if the IPad 3 doesn't have a retina display? Will the Apple tards just say (as ive read) "it's unnecessary"? LOL!

I think you misread what I wrote because, admittedly, I wasn't all that clear. There is speculation that the iPad's graphics chip is what is in the Sony NGP. Obviously the iPad CPU is dual core and the Sony NGP is Quad.

 

[Blu101]

Well I have an Exige so let me step in on this analogy. It doesn't work. The Elise is a Track purpose built car. It has a 1.8L Toyota 2ZZ-GE (from the Celica GT-S, Matrix XRS, Corolla XRS) and weighs under 2100lbs. The Boxster is a Luxury Sports Roadster built for comfort and like almost all German cars the ability to comfortable drive on the Autobahn (IE 6 Cylinders +, Good Torque, Smooth handling.) Two different cars built for two completely different reasons.

My point is valid for this discussion - speed, which is what the PC trolls always shoot down with Apple's "inferior" hardware specs, failing to recognize that Apple products performs just as well as their PC counterparts regardless.

Nothing to do with the cars in general as a whole. Just about point A to point B speed. I've done the same to a few of my friends to prove my point back in the day, when I had a little 4 cylinder turbo car and embarassed their big 5.0 mustangs. What a joke Brute force = waste, not efficiency

Says the old timer whos been here Since Sept 2010.

That's right, I'm here, I'm not on a PC site busting their chops, which was my point.

 

[dadoftwogirls]

Says the old timer whos been here Since Sept 2010.

Oh smack! LOL

 

[rovex]

Do all the PC lovers like you with a join date of Feb or March 2011 have that much free time on your hands to come over to an apple site and troll?


Is it because of all the downtime with Windows crashes and freezes?

I've been here for less than a week and you've been posting here since September 2010. very rich, I must say.

Go stick your head in the sand if you prefer not to listen to the truth about apples tendencies, cheers.

 

[dethmaShine]

Considering most competitors have 1GB of RAM in their tablets, even 512MB is low.



1GB already is pretty much standard. See the engadget article comparing the iPad2 vs the competition:

I know RAM isn't everything, but I SERIOUSLY doubt adding an extra 512MB will make things more expensive or hurt either Apple or the consumer in any way.

Well, as somebody explained, Android needs it. It has always needed it. I can tell you that my Nexus S needs more than 512MB RAM. The point is, the iPad performs great on 256MB RAM. But sure, that doesn't mean that the iPad 2 should have 256 MB RAM. To be honest, if the iPad 2 has < 512MB RAM, its a big FAIL. Not in terms of sales, but otherwise. In my opinion thats a very bad engineering decision. I highly doubt Apple will do it.

As for 1GB RAM, thats a stretch for Apple. I know its not a big deal; in terms of engineering/packaging/layout, it isn't a big deal. I wish it has 1GB RAM but looking at Apple, its got a very low probability.

Man.

No 512GB RAM?
No 1TB SSD STORAGE?
No Quad core?
No 100 hours of battery life?

It doesn't come with Megan FOX?

Fail. I will wait for Super ultra ipad 3.

I understood your post but it really seems to be wrong. 512MB RAM is a must for iPad 2. I cannot believe if Apple is going with 256 MB RAM in the new iPad.

Also, you can cancel the first 4; I'd like Megan Fox more.

 

[Cougarcat]

iMOVE does not work on the old Ipad...but works on the new Ipad 2...but it works on the itouch 4th gen...so...

Its gonna have 512MB of ram folks...just wait till ifixit does it tear down on next friday!

iPod touch has 256 MB of VRAM. Also, Apple said that iMovie and Garageband will work on the iPad 1.

That said, you are probably right about the iPad 2's RAM.

 

[John Dillinger]

All that extra memory will kill battery life (mostly standby battery life because of DRAM refresh), and give customers yet another reason to prefer an Apple product that can sit for weeks and still have instant on.

These Android companies are still designing to specs for PCs, and we know how well PC tablets sold before the iPad.

You may want to read a detailed comparison on Anandtech.. the Xoom is on par/slightly beats the iPad in battery life on a 3g web browsing test.. so that argument is now moot.

Xoom also has larger, higher PPI screen. But hey Apple is slightly cheaper.

Dont you get it? More ram is good for you... but not till next revision on iPad 3.. when they will advertised "work harder, play faster, do more times a million etc" right now- nah you dont need it

Im just saying, i wouldnt believe the bs.. theres a reason they make all those profits, next to all those high sales

 

[Dr McKay]

Dude, give your eyes a break and put a decent theme on SBSettings

Serious SBSettings

Oh, and is your friend ;)[/QUOTE]

Got a theme for SBSettings on my phone, but don't use it on the ipad enough to care about it.

Ginna sound stupid also but what is [img]?

 

[Blu101]

I've been here for less than a week and you've been posting here since September 2010. very rich, I must say.

You've been here less than a week and already calling all of us "apple tards". Speak for yourself

 

[fuwafuwa]

SHAMEFUL it is not 1GB

Is Apple wanting Android Tablets to roll over them? In 1 year, 1GB and 2GB will be STANDARD.

Because the nature of Android, i.e. using VM, it needs RAM 4x of iPad RAM. So 1GB RAM on Android is equal to 256MB on iOS.

 

[John Dillinger]

Well, as somebody explained, Android needs it. It has always needed it. I can tell you that my Nexus S needs more than 512MB RAM. The point is, the iPad performs great on 256MB RAM. But sure, that doesn't mean that the iPad 2 should have 256 MB RAM. To be honest, if the iPad 2 has < 512MB RAM, its a big FAIL. Not in terms of sales, but otherwise. In my opinion thats a very bad engineering decision. I highly doubt Apple will do it.

As for 1GB RAM, thats a stretch for Apple. I know its not a big deal; in terms of engineering/packaging/layout, it isn't a big deal. I wish it has 1GB RAM but looking at Apple, its got a very low probability.



I understood your post but it really seems to be wrong. 512MB RAM is a must for iPad 2. I cannot believe if Apple is going with 256 MB RAM in the new iPad.

Also, you can cancel the first 4; I'd like Megan Fox more.

Quote that shows Android inherently needs more ram to function than iOS??

But then I suppose since the OS has support for live active widgets and not just icons on the desktop you may have a point.

If you are referring to the fact that there is misguided belief amongst some that task killers are essential... disproven again article on gizmodo i believe went into great detail.

Further I have Nexus S and have never had to kill apps, or pages, and frequently browse while updating/installing market apps in the background and have had no problems or felt the need to have more ram.

In fact of all the complaints ever voiced (not tegra 2, no 4G, No SD card) at Nexus S, RAM is not one I have come across before.. so what types of tasks are you doing when you feel you need more ram?

 

[rovex]

You've been here less than a week and already calling all of us "apple tards". Speak for yourself

I've been lurking these boards for a little while, and some of the nonsense was and is very apparent. What is your role on here by the way? spending your life moderating boards even though you're not a moderator?

 

[whoami]

not enough ram. no usb.. android has this, that..
At the end of the day who cares.. none of those other devices run iOS.
you guys all know this is the 3G/(s) of iPad's anyway.

 

[Coarseman]

If you shop for specs on paper, you're going to buy the Boxter S.

No you won't.

Nobody in his right mind would buy a Boxter because the only statement you make by owning a Boxter is this: "I do not have enough money to buy a proper 911"

I would rather have malaria than Boxter.

In this sense the Elise is much more preferable,although 911 Turbo beats both of them by a country mile.

Anyway,I digress.

I really hope the iPad 2 will have at least 512 MB of RAM.
I am buying the thing anyway but I hope it will not crash as often as the first gen when working with big pdf's-something I regularly have to do.

 

[PlipPlop]

And that takes all of what, one second at most?

And also used more battery power. Your paying the same price as the Android tablets and getting lower memory.

 

[John Dillinger]

Because the nature of Android, i.e. using VM, it needs RAM 4x of iPad RAM. So 1GB RAM on Android is equal to 256MB on iOS.

Wow again.... quote????

I mean seriously how can some spout such, well... unsubstantiated bull??
(anandtech)

Please note the position of the Nexus S compared to iPhone 4 in the performance tests I linked to above.. if what you say is true, how could these results possibly be??? By the way... iPhone 4 and Nexus S have the same amount of RAM

Flame with facts if you must flame please!!

 

[thesk1llerz]

Everyone complaining be happy apple gave the iPad 2 512 mb of ram, rather than doing nothing....