iPad 2 to Match iPhone 4's 512 MB of RAM?

[gorgeousninja]

Every time I see your posts, it's a criticism of Apple. Care to tell us why you spend so much time on a website when all you do is criticize the company this website is based on? There's a term for users like that, I won't say it though as we all know what that term is.

Also, why are you so angry all of the time, it's just a product made by Apple(that will outsell all the others like crazy), who cares how much ram it has, if it works superbly. I guess I would complain too if I wanted to have 36 tabs open just so I could have something to bitch about.

Also, wtf is up with your Sig? Against Terms of Use to spout your Conservative retardation. Where are the mods.

Bravo to you sir, been thinking the same for some weeks now..... The constant posts of negativity and non-stop Apple-bashing really irritates...but maybe that's what he wants..... some sad people in the world unfortunately...

In other news..iPad2 = can't wait!

 

[Yankee617]

SHAMEFUL it is not 1GB

Is Apple wanting Android Tablets to roll over them? In 1 year, 1GB and 2GB will be STANDARD.

That may be. But remember there is a downside... lots of DRAM sucks up lots of power which shortens battery life. It doesn't help to have lots of unused DRAM lying around. There is a design balance to be achieved here.

That said, I'll be very disappointed if the iPad 2 has less than 512 MB. I think this much DRAM is necessary for a properly functioning iOS and some Apps.

I'm not sure whether iOS or some Apps really NEED more than 512 MB at present... although there might be some cool/desirable advanced features that do need more DRAM... but I think improvements in HW technology will enable future iPads to incorporate 1 GB or more while still achieving a desirable overall system design balance.

 

[burningbright]

So your alternative would be for Apple to put in 2G of RAM right now for no other reason than to have 'mine is bigger' bragging rights, and charge an extra $500 for the device, and no real improvement in user experience?

This paranoia about 'planned obsolescence' is getting old.
Companies produce the product they're able to at a price people will pay.

Put away the tin foil hat.

Erm, no, if you had bothered to read my post to the end you'd see I think they shouldn't put more than 512MB in. If you had bothered to read the start of my post, you'd have read that I think that whatever RAM the iPad 2 has is enough for its current usage (on iOS4).

The quantities of RAM we're talking about wouldn't add much at all to the Bill of Materials.

Suggesting that Apple might want to nudge people to upgrade every 3 years or so is hardly 'tin foil' territory. When did the first-gen iPhone stop being able to update the OS- after 3 years! Will the second gen products be able to update to iOS 5? No! When does Applecare run out? After 3 years! Your innocence in believing Apple does not care about making its customers semi-regularly upgrade is touching!

 

[gdzb]

every time i see your posts, it's a criticism of apple. Care to tell us why you spend so much time on a website when all you do is criticize the company this website is based on? There's a term for users like that, i won't say it though as we all know what that term is.

Also, why are you so angry all of the time, it's just a product made by apple(that will outsell all the others like crazy), who cares how much ram it has, if it works superbly. I guess i would complain too if i wanted to have 36 tabs open just so i could have something to bitch about.

Also, wtf is up with your sig? Against terms of use to spout your conservative retardation. Where are the mods.

+1

 

[fahadqureshi]

I am pondering just like everyone else...256 or 512? Hello? Apple? Care to answer? Hello?

well when i read your post it felt like you knew for a fact that it was 256.

Those are your specs. And I'm not the one stating iPad 2.0 is just a means to appease the people. Check out cnn.com or other sites. Apple has had a year to upgrade the iPad and as usual they concentrated on the looks and physical dimensions plus a few tech specs. I wasn't really that impressed with the launch. Facetime, cool. But wonder if it's going to have terrible optics like the Touch. No better screen resolution. Faster chip...nice. Totally new case design...not sure what the point is there. Battery life...I didn't really notice...my iPad 1 seems to run forever. Lack of new storage sizes...big bummer for me...I was really hoping the 32GB would be the smallest now. 16GB is a joke...and was a joke in 2010. And a joke in 2009. I don't see any new out-of-the-box apps either...like games or a calculator. Sheeez...couldn't have dug those up on open source?

well when you say it was rushed i am assuming that you mean the updated ipad 3 will be far superior to the ipad 2. i am just trying to figure out what they will update for ipad 3 other then the inclusion of retina display. just about everything else is already improved. as far as optics they did say it has a HD camera i am not sure how they can improve on that.

the point of new design is to make it slimmer and lighter so it is easier to hold for extended periods of time and reduce the cost of manufacturing as well as.

I personally dont care about storage size i for one would have preferred that the wifi models completely be dropped and only offer 3G ones for the $499, $599, $699 price tags. but storage is really a personal preference. i am fine with 16 some may not be satisfied with even 128GB.

they give you basic apps like: Calendar, weather, maps, calculator, youtube, there are free calculator apps and tons and tons of free games in the appstore. isnt it a good they dont give you games? that way i dont have to delete it if i dont like it.

Yes. They. Have. Go back and read the article about how Apple retracted their statements...as well as numerous other websites that have attempted to contact Apple about the RAM specification.

is this article you are referring to posted on macrumors or somewhere else. i would like to read it. because to my knowledge apple has never for any iphone, ipod touch, or ipad specified how much ram is in the device. usually it is sites like ifixit that do a teardown and reveal those things.

I was being generous with the $15. Who knows how much it actually costs...volume, style of memory, quantity of chips per unit, etc. All I know is it can't cost more than $15 to buy 512MB of RAM for the millions of iPad 2 units that Apple expects to sell. By the way, it's not .15 cents (unless you really mean 15 % of 1 penny)...it's 15 cents or $0.15.

i meant $0.15 my mistake. but again you are implying by saying "it cant be more then $15 to buy 512MB" that it doesnt have 512 and apple should have paid the $15 or $0.15 to put 512 in the device. for all we know it does have 512 and that puts an end to the argument.

 

[jkdsteve]

It's good to see some dissenting opinions on this thread.

To those claiming the memory doesn't matter, well you must have some strange ritual to not see the impact or perhaps a bit more tolerance to waiting.

I have an iPhone4, which has 512Mb of RAM and frequently run into the dreaded Safari page refresh issue or switch/reload when using just a few simple apps.

With the expanded screen of the iPad, it becomes much more suited to more complex apps so I'd expect to run into this problem *more frequently* at even 512Mb RAM...1Gb would be better

It's hardly the end of the world but less RAM is a significant impact on user experience.

 

[countzero2k10]

ok, please don't flame me for bringing this up as I'd be happy with 512MB just as much as if the iPad 2 had 1GB.

But I've been thinking about the HDMI adapter. The iPad 2 is the only device that can output 1080p with the adapter. Is the only reason this is because of the faster CPU/GPU than previous devices or could it be because it also has more RAM than previous devices as well?

I haven't seen this brought up so I thought I'd throw it out there. Either way the mystery will most likely be solved on the 11th after ifixit gets one torn down .

 

[notabadname]

SHAMEFUL it is not 1GB

Is Apple wanting Android Tablets to roll over them? In 1 year, 1GB and 2GB will be STANDARD.

And in one year, Apple will probably have the "standard". I think the overall user experience is all that matters. If people go to the store and play with it, and find it "snappy" and responsive, it works. The average consumer, that bought the lion's share of last years 15 million iPads, aren't asking the sales rep, "but how much RAM does it have?". They go by what they see in hands-on performance. And in that measure, it is Apple who has set the "Standard" that everyone else is trying to match.

 

[Mattie Num Nums]

Yes, shame on them for releasing improved new products. They should really be concerned about not hurting your feelings.

They release new products, and you complain that they conspired to make your product obsolete.

They don't release new products, and you complain that Android/WP7/WebOS/RIM/etc. are pwning them in specs.

You're completely missing the point. My feelings aren't hurt. I pull out my Corp. Amex card and its bought and on my desk (Ill be ordering my White iPad March 11th.) The point is crippling products in order to force people to buy new ones. My HTC EVO has been and still is cutting edge. The iPhone 3G was out of date the day it was released. Thats what I am talking about. I think you have me confused for a "Fandroid, MS Fanboy." The only non Apple product I own is my HTC EVO.

 

[fahadqureshi]

Do you work for Apple? You seriously think I (or others) am going to plunk down $500+ a year for the latest and greatest iPad? What a joke. Maybe every few revisions but certainly I expect an iPad to last more than 1 year and still work well with apps in the App Store.

you could sell your ipad every year a couple weeks before the release and recover a good chunk of your money and then just pay the difference and upgrade.

 

[lshaner]

Considering most competitors have 1GB of RAM in their tablets, even 512MB is low.

1GB already is pretty much standard. See the engadget article comparing the iPad2 vs the competition:

I know RAM isn't everything, but I SERIOUSLY doubt adding an extra 512MB will make things more expensive or hurt either Apple or the consumer in any way.

Hmm... Let's just suppose the iPad 2 is 512 MB. The chart you quoted would be one reason why Apple might not want to disclose the amount of memory -- because of the perception that even 512 MB is not competitive with those other devices.

The fact is iOS is VERY efficient, so it makes far better use of its memory than those other devices. So 512 MB on iOS would almost certainly be better utilized than the 1 GB on those other devices.

My point has been that despite how efficient iOS is, there is a point at which there is no getting around a shortage of physical RAM. At 256 MB, iOS 4 is already a bit cramped. At 512 MB, it has a lot of head-room -- more than half free.

From what I can tell, with 512 MB of RAM, the device should perform better than those other devices that have twice that amount of memory.

But if the iPad 2 only has 256 MB, then THAT's too cramped.
512 MB would be fine; 256 MB would cramped.

1 GB would be "nice" but is probably overkill...well except that even on my iPhone 4 with 512 MB of RAM I run out of physical memory after about a week of normal use.
I am in the habit of rebooting my iPhone 4 every 1 to 2 weeks to free the memory.

I wouldn't even be participating in this discussion if we KNEW that the iPad 2 was going to have 512 MB. If it only has 256 MB, then it will be a deal-breaker for me.

I mean I expect the iPad 2 should do at least as well at multi-tasking as my iPhone 4 -- so if the iPad 2 has half the memory, then it's just not worth the money to me because it will be LESS productive for me than the iPhone 4.

How could it ever be okay for the iPad 2 to only be capable of LOWER PRODUCTIVITY (less multi-tasking, less memory to open large documents) than the iPhone 4? It would be absurd.
Apple has to be smart enough here to do the right thing and put (at least) 512 MB in the iPad 2!

 

[Dooger]

Another Teabagger with fake outrage syndrome trolling the forums!

This made me make lulz

 

[ten-oak-druid]

Just when the competition was trying to catch up...

Not Xooming: Motorola Mobility Tumbles
By Dave Kansas, WSJ
MARCH 3, 2011


"Even in a widespread market surge, some stocks get crushed. Today’s victim: Motorola Mobility, down 5.6% and the worst performer in the S&P 500.

The reason? Unsurprisingly, the boffo reviews greeting the new Apple iPad2. Motorola Mobility has been counting on its own Xoom tablet to carve into the fast-growing market. But the iPad2 has a couple of things that are rattling MMI backers: it’s thinner and cheaper than Xoom.

..."

 

[dernhelm]

SHAMEFUL it is not 1GB

Is Apple wanting Android Tablets to roll over them? In 1 year, 1GB and 2GB will be STANDARD.

In a year, the iPad 3 will debut.

Give it up dude, no one is going to roll the iPad anytime soon.

 

[koruki]

If you don't like it, bring it back...

(but you know you wont)

Like many of have said, as long as it works fine what does it matter? If you seriously need that much ram then get the product with the ram you want. The iPad has been the only internet device thats been friendly enough for my parents to learn and I am really thankful for that. The i7 980x and 12GB of RAM I have in my PC doesn't meant jack to them.

 

[ten-oak-druid]

shameful it is not 1gb

is apple wanting android tablets to roll over them? In 1 year, 1gb and 2gb will be standard.

lol

our android tablet experiment has failed miserably
november 16, 2010
by larry dignan, zdnet

"when it comes to android tablets, we’ve gone with high-end devices with the samsung galaxy tab and downright bodega with the maylong m-150 for $99.

The verdict: Android tablets are a big fail

..."

 

[tripjammer]

Ok...a dual core A5 and a dual or quad core GPU in a device that is thinner than the Iphone 4 and gets 10 hours of batter life...and dual cameras in not good?

And the Xoom is gonna sell more units than the Ipad 2?


No way!

 

[srxtr]

SHAMEFUL it is not 1GB

Is Apple wanting Android Tablets to roll over them? In 1 year, 1GB and 2GB will be STANDARD.

In 1 year iPad 3 will be out

 

[McBeats]

I think we will undoubtedly see 512 this year, and 1GB next year.

 

[tripjammer]

If you don't like it, bring it back...

(but you know you wont)

Like many of have said, as long as it works fine what does it matter? If you seriously need that much ram then get the product with the ram you want. The iPad has been the only internet device thats been friendly enough for my parents to learn and I am really thankful for that. The i7 980x and 12GB of RAM I have in my PC doesn't meant jack to them.

And its about the apps....nobody has the apps like IOS has...well they got some...but the Ipad interface rocks.!

 

[ten-oak-druid]

Well the ipad can't beet the Galaxy Tab in return rates anyway.

 

[Mattie Num Nums]

In 1 year iPad 3 will be out

I give it less than that. The iPad 3 will no doubt be stellar.

 

[notabadname]

It's good to see some dissenting opinions on this thread.
With the expanded screen of the iPad, it becomes much more suited to more complex apps so I'd expect to run into this problem *more frequently* at even 512Mb RAM...1Gb would be better

It's hardly the end of the world but less RAM is a significant impact on user experience.

But don't confuse screen size with pixel count of course. Size is irrelevant (there is a joke in there somewhere). The iPhone has 614,400 pixels, and the iPad 786,432. So not a very significant difference as far as RAM goes. (if the iPad were Retina, than it would be pushing over 3.1 million pixels (a 30 inch monitor has 4.1 million pixels)

As a side note, that of course is why Retina is an issue for a handheld. Think of the graphics card we upgrade to, for pushing all those pixels while gaming in 3D on a desktop. Imagine the battery and size challenges for doing that on an iPad with 75% of the pixels of a 30 inch monitor. And everyone want's that on a $499 iPad.

 

[Grouchy Bob]

I doubt it has more though, because Jobs would almost certainly bring it up as a bragging point. So, safe bet is 512.

I dunno... bragging about 512mb these days is probably one of those things you don't bring up. It just sounds embarrassing.

 

[firewood]

You, Sir, couldn't be more wrong. iOS is based on UNIX and it absolutely does use virtual memory and there *ARE* page-in/page-outs, especially in low-memory conditions.

Not for running apps. Instead, App store apps are often killed in low-memory conditions. Ask any developer.

Any VM backing store is used only by and for the OS, and not much when running an app.