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iPad 2 with High Resolution Screen and SD Card Slot, iPhone 5 with A5 Processor?

I'm curious how people assume the term "redesigned" applies to only the internals. If I were to upgrade all the internals of the systems I manage, the term "redesigned" doesn't come to mind to describe it.
 
Geckotek said:
I'm curious how people assume the term "redesigned" applies to only the internals. If I were to upgrade all the internals of the systems I manage, the term "redesigned" doesn't come to mind to describe it.
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I'm basing that mostly on the video that was released a week or two ago now, and assuming that the second phone was the iPhone 5. The internals weren't just upgraded; they were all different.

That, coupled with the fact that the antenna is all new as well (and apparently universal) says to me redesigned. If they meant it would have an all-new form factor, they would've said "all-new form factor." Just like they did with the iPhone 4, even though no one believed it at the time.
 
A multicore processor in a phone? It seems like just yesterday the razr was the hottest thing ever.
 
KnightWRX said:
So does the iPhone. Sometimes I hold it closer, sometimes I hold it farther away.

However, when dealing with things like "marketing", you have to normalize, just like Steve did when he declared 12" to be the normal viewing distance one holds a smartphone at. Obviously, this won't be true for every user everywhere.

Same goes for the iPad. Apple will just "normalize" a distance where the display they pick achieves the Retina effect so they can then call it a Retina display.

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No, he never said what you are saying he said. He explained the concept real clearly. Read the article I linked to.

Steve said that the Retina effect was your eye not able to distinguish pixels at the normal viewing distance you hold the device. He then qualified it as 12" distance for the iPhone, and thus a requirement of 300 ppi to achieve this effect.

The iPhone 4 numbers were an example as much as an introduction to the iPhone 4 display. He clearly stated however what was meant by Retina Display.

Where did you think all of us trying to explain it to you guys are getting this info ? Retina Display is an Apple Marketing strategy, they invented the term, the concept and the explanation behind it. We're just repeating it for you and others that just aren't getting it. Retina display is not something that existed as a "concept" or "industry slang" before the words came out of Steve's mouth on that faithful day in June of '10.
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I get it QUITE WELL thanks! And again, we aren't disagreeing. I simply said he will have to quantify the distance with the new iPad screen and the "Retina" term pertaining to the new iPad 2's screen.

Point is, Steve will have to pitch it anew or we will have Apple haters whining about it not being 326ppi which is beside the point! I'm sure he understands this and will when he announces it.

P.S. He actually said 10-12" if you want to go back and watch it! :rolleyes:
 
KnightWRX said:
There's no reasoning with the tech spec crowd, their stuff obviously shuts down and stops working the minute a new gadget hits the market.
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To the contrary, some of us didn't buy the first gen iPad because the resolution sucked. It's not that it shuts down and stops working, it was never up to par to begin with. The problem is the companies are so intent on holding back features so they'll have something "better" for the next year's revamp, but what they fail to realize is that there is always a way to make the product better. The second or third gen iPad will be what the first one should have been. As consumers we can either buy into the crappy products until they catch up or sit around and wait, but either way it takes the same three years.
 
PurrBall said:
Or your Mac's display. :rolleyes:
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By today's technology standards, yes, the display on iMacs is pretty poor, too. And they've been behind the game on the laptop front for AGES now. 15" panels at 1920x1200 resolution have been around for nearly a decade now. Their base 15" MBP is a paltry 1440x900. That's pathetic.

Anyway, there is a difference here though, in that you generally sit farther away from a laptop or iMac display, whereas you hold the iPad in your hands and view it from a distance of a foot from your face.
 
iPhone new body

03sho said:
The bit in bold is pretty interesting...

Sounds like the next iPhone will actually be a a significant upgrade rather than a 3gs type upgrade.

Thoughts?


http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/14/exclusive-the-future-of-the-ipad-2-iphone-5-and-apple-tv-and/
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I've been in China for 5 years on and off and involved in the Apple accessory business until last year where I changed to building supplies but still maintain some contacts in that business. The word here is that iPhone 5 will go back to the rounded bottom. :)
 
SirHaakon said:
By today's technology standards, yes, the display on iMacs is pretty poor, too. And they've been behind the game on the laptop front for AGES now. 15" panels at 1920x1200 resolution have been around for nearly a decade now. Their base 15" MBP is a paltry 1440x900. That's pathetic.

Anyway, there is a difference here though, in that you generally sit farther away from a laptop or iMac display, whereas you hold the iPad in your hands and view it from a distance of a foot from your face.
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Back it off to about 18" like the rest of the world.
 
BriChi said:
sooooooooo this means Verizon will dick over the buyers that purchased in February and come out with a new one 4 months later? Great!!! Or this is still just part of the att yearly release?
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No more than all the other providers all over the world that continue to sell the iP4 right up to the launch date of the iP5.

By now it's a pretty well established trend that Apple releases a new model once a year like clockwork. Especially with all the press Apple gets. It's the customers decision, and they should hardly be surprised.
 
iPadThai said:
Personally I feel, it's as dumb as the red nub stick on thinkpads. Lenovo still have not changed that lineup's design at all for how many years now?
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I still like the red nub. Most Thinkpads (and HP hardware) comes with both trackpad and nipple. Each is better for different tasks and I regularly use both. The fact you can use the nipple without taking your fingers off the keys is a bonus.
 
sooooooooo this means Verizon will dick over the buyers that purchased in February and come out with a new one 4 months later? Great!!! Or this is still just part of the att yearly release?
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Niko03 said:
No more than all the other providers all over the world that continue to sell the iP4 right up to the launch date of the iP5.

By now it's a pretty well established trend that Apple releases a new model once a year like clockwork. Especially with all the press Apple gets. It's the customers decision, and they should hardly be surprised.
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right but again, the yearly update has been for the ATT iPhone, it's not fair to consumers that spend $200 (some $600) on a phone and then release a new one 4 months later, I agree they sell them right up till the release and it would be dumb for ATT customers to buy a new iPhone now because we all know a new ine is coming out in June, BUT it would be wrong for the customer (we all know Verizon and apple can care less) to even sell them now, or at least let people know a new one in out in June so people who cannot wait can get them now but others that can wait will wait till June. I know they will never do that because again, This is all business and customers can do their own research and know a new one for Verizon "may" be out in june, But I jus think it's bad for their rep on Apple and Verizons side. We all know ATT has a yearly release of the iphone and people are ok with that because the updates are good, but to update a Verizon released iphone 4 months later, people will be upset,

I totally see it from both ends where Verizon and apple want to get the sales in now and release a new on in June, they will make A LOT of money off people who cannot wait or do not know any better, But in the end, Is it really worth it being that if they do a new verizon one come june that people will be bitching all over, whether they are right or wrong, the bitching and news stories will be all over just like the antenna issue, it wasnt a big deal to most but they blew it up anyway same wat they will of 4 months later a new iphone/verizon is released, ESPECIALLY if it's a 4G one (LTE)

Me personally, I am not waiting, my wife really want to jump ship from ATT and get the new one so i can just add a line to my Verizon acct now and play with her iphone and maybe wait to get mine, either way if the new one comes out in Junew and it's not just a speed bump, then I sell mine on Ebay unlocked, get pretty much what I paid for it if not more and buy the new one :)

At first I was upset whan I posted my first comment about them screwing us, but the more I thought about it, I don't blame them in a way, they are going to do very well from the early adapters
 
BriChi said:
it's not fair to consumers ... at least let people know a new one in out in June so people ... can wait will wait till June. I know they will never do that because again, This is all business ... But I jus think it's bad for their rep on Apple and Verizons side.
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I don't get it. Other companies release new products much more frequently than Apple does. For example Motorola and Samsung are about to release their new phones about 6 months after the last big ones but I don't see see people blame them for it. Nor do I see anyone who blame Intel for "not letting people know" that a new CPU is coming out while selling their current generation. Why is Apple being singled out when they have probably the most predictable product cycle in the business?
 
Niko03 said:
No more than all the other providers all over the world that continue to sell the iP4 right up to the launch date of the iP5.

By now it's a pretty well established trend that Apple releases a new model once a year like clockwork. Especially with all the press Apple gets. It's the customers decision, and they should hardly be surprised.
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because they are Apple, they get singled out if Steve Jobs takes a **** at 3pm everyday instead of 2 :)
 
ARF900 said:
A multicore processor in a phone? It seems like just yesterday the razr was the hottest thing ever.
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your a little behind the times, dual core cpu's were in phones 5-6 years ago

the HTC Wizard had a dualcore 200MHz TI OMAP CPU, 1 core was for general processing, the other core took care of all the audio/cell radio functions

today there are tegra 2 phones sporting dual 1GHz CPUs that can do 1080p playback AND recording
 
URFloorMatt said:
I'm basing that mostly on the video that was released a week or two ago now, and assuming that the second phone was the iPhone 5. The internals weren't just upgraded; they were all different.

That, coupled with the fact that the antenna is all new as well (and apparently universal) says to me redesigned. If they meant it would have an all-new form factor, they would've said "all-new form factor." Just like they did with the iPhone 4, even though no one believed it at the time.
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Well, that's the antenna being redesigned. But this article states that the whole iPhone 5 will be redesigned.
There were several sources that stated the iPhone 5 would have a "new form factor"
Also, that video released was for the Verizon iPhone, and definitely not for the iPhone 5.
 
This chipset change will also advance to the iPhone 5, again allowing a single hardware model to work across both Verizon and AT&T.
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What do folks think the likelihood that the chipset would allow Verizon use in the USA and sim card use in Europe?

If highly likely, then I've got to consider whether I get a Verizon iPhone now and replace it with a (hopefully dual band) iPhone 5 when it ships. Or just wait 6 months longer for an iPhone 5. Heck, I've been waiting for years for iPhone to come to Verizon now.

Think the resale value of an iPhone 4 will remain high after the iPhone 5 ships?
 
karsten said:
i'd love to have a pay as you go data plan. the rates are ridiculous. why pay for internet in a small device if i already pay for broadband through cable?
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On the east coats, if you have Verizon FiOS and a Verizon cell phone, it can come in an unlimited data plan bundle. Anyone more familiar with the plans?

fabianjj said:
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I highly doubt that apple would chose a number naming for just one phone and then just jump back into adding a bunch of letters after it. I expect the following iPhones to be called 5, 6
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iPhone 3G begets iPhone 3GS begets iPhone 4 begets iPhone 4G. There is prescient.

I don't expect any new industrial design of the iPhone for another eighteen months nor an iPhone 5 before spring 2012. My take is at WWDC this year, we will see the iPhone 4G with the same look at the iPhone 4 and a totally redone motherboard inside.
 
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CFreymarc said:
iPhone 3G begets iPhone 3GS begets iPhone 4 begets iPhone 4G. There is prescient.

I don't expect any new industrial design of the iPhone for another eighteen months nor an iPhone 5 before spring 2012. My take is at WWDC this year, we will see the iPhone 4G with the same look at the iPhone 4 and a totally redone motherboard inside.
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The "pattern" is too short to really be considered a pattern at this point.
 
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That's not an iPad, it's too thick
 
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