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iPad 2 With NFC-Equipped Accessories, Carbon Fiber Body? 7-Inch iPad Still Alive?
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With so many flaws in CF i cant believe how it is being used for whole body kits in top supercars? Degrades with water? Wat
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With so many flaws in CF i cant believe how it is being used for whole body kits in top supercars? Degrades with water? Wat
THIS. And Carbon fibre (is?) more expensive than aluminium, and Apple wants to keep costs low already.
The other points are debatable - but this one in particular doesn't seem relevant to this discussion. Do you really believe a significant number of people are going to be using a ten-year-old iPad? How many first-gen iPods do you see around?
And, for what it's worth, there ARE a lot of 10-year-old carbon fiber camera tripods still in use - and those things get the bejeebers beat out of them.
About Heat and Wettability
A study of fiber degradation
few quotes from it:
Hydolysis: Water reaction on epoxy explained
The reason why resins are adopted beside that carbon fibre is flexible and needs rigidity is to prevent moisture I suppose.
As far for the body kit, they are use for their weight and strenght its true, but they are not use for the whole car, wonder why? They don't make car with a chassis in carbon fibre, it's not THAT strong.
I just copied and paste.
I'm not saying that it will be degraded in few years and eventually turn dust in your hands. I believe will be strong enough at that time as well, however, at this point it doesn't seem the best option for many reasons.
The how many 10-years old device is debatable too.
My girlfriend has an iPod mini, that is 2004 already, they also are still sold somewhere.
My father has one of the first Mac mini, those are 6 years already.
My mother still have my computer that I bought in 2001 and running.
How many MacRumor users have still old iMacs and PowerBooks running?
I believe many of us wants to buy a device that is build to last, regardless if they are going to sell it within 12 months because they like and can afford to refresh or they are settle with one and one only device. You know you think that too, otherwise why sporting that avatar?
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this.
and really, this rumor about the 7" iPad just goes to show how out-there all these rumors have been, and make me think that we probably don't know jack about this new iPad at all.
it's completely ridiculous all these articles today on google news saying there's going to be an iOS event on Sunday, the 13th. are you kidding me? have you ever met apple? i don't even know why people would think there will be an event to show off 4.3...makes no sense.
here's to hoping apple crushes the competition and blows our collective mind with the ipad 2.
There are four things that would make me sell my current iPad and get another new one.
1.) Kickstand
2.) Significantly Lighter
3.) Retina Display
4.) Letter Paper sized screen
Carbon fiber is welcome if it is lighter and if Apple is redesigning for the antenna issues in the iPhone (and to some extent the iPad) it would make sense to use a new material, after the all glass design failed.
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You probably are a Android/Linux user. If that's is true you should know how to use flash in iOS (Frash, do you remember it? ;-))
You probably are a Android/Linux user. If that's is true you should know how to use flash in iOS (Frash, do you remember it? ;-))
Ultraportable? Really? How is it more portable than a netbook then? More powerfull? Hmmm. W7 vs OSX...OSX wins, of course, but not more powerfull. 1.4 vs 1.6 says so. It is how you implement the tech, and that's why I am saying Apple did it right [for netbooks].
I am afraid we disagree, but that's fine
It makes the world more interesting.
Only if they include sandpaper with it
and of course you and steve jobs use toothpicks to tap the small icons on your iphones....... or you hire elegant petite asian ladies to do your tapping/pecking?
the statement of steve about the sandpaper/7" tablet is the biggest B******T i have heard from him
apple would crush the competition if they offered the ipad in the current form factor plus a smaller one
there is a $$$ market/need for a smaller ipad
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i believe that adobe will eventually rework flash to some acceptable level..... by that time html5 will be more popular?
Oh no, you didn't listen to the Steve. There's nothing wrong with the antenna design (but we did make major changes for the CDMA Iphone).
No problems, just the InterwebZ rumour mills.
Ultraportable? Really? How is it more portable than a netbook then? More powerfull? Hmmm. W7 vs OSX...OSX wins, of course, but not more powerfull. 1.4 vs 1.6 says so. It is how you implement the tech, and that's why I am saying Apple did it right [for netbooks].
I am afraid we disagree, but that's fine
Is ultraportable compared to a laptop of nearly half the weight.
My white MacBook was 2.4 Kg the MBA 13.3" is 1.3 Kg and the 11.6" is 1.06 Kg, and I can tell the difference when I take it around on my shoulder to university.
More powerful than a netbook, yes. If you still looking at the GHz, then, you have to learn a bit more about what are the new architecture of CPU, because we came a long way from the Pentium technology.
Atom no matter what speed is way, way less powerful than a Core2Duo. Learn of cores, cache, CPU architecture and what else, then, you'll understand how more important are those factor compared to the cicle rates.
PS: W7 vs OSX is an argument not needed on this matter. To each their own.
To back up my argument with geekbench scores:
Atom 1.6Ghz: 975
MBA 11.6" Core2Duo 1.6GHz: 2289
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They do make whole cars with it, mostly racing cars. Formula 1 cars are immensely strong, far stronger than an aluminium car could be at any reasonable weight. Cost and scalability of manufacture have been the big limiting factor for more use in car chassis.
BMW have developed a process for mass producing carbon fibre much more easily and cheaply, and intend to use it in their future Megacity range, and they appear to not be the not the only ones making progress.
And as Skika put it: "unless it's a really top quality carbon with good sealant resin, CF will absorb water and degrade in performance", there is a solution to the water absorption: Top quality with the right resin.
And as for not doing it because of expense. Unibody isn't the cheapest way to make laptops. Apple did it because it was an improvement.
So I think carbon fibre is a possibility. But something with liquid metal is more likely.
HTML5 will get popular once IE9 gets mainstream. Yes, IE stucks monkeys, but IE is number 1.
They use it tho on superlight cars, and chassic are joint pieces as tubes and such, is not a whole piece as unibody, as far as I know. There is too much torsion going on a car frame.
Yes, I also pointed out this.
You are probably right on the expenses matter. I see you agree on my point on liquid metal.
I'm not against CF generally, whether is a good or not choice, it just that based on rumors that have been going on, and Apple prime choice of aluminium makes this CF switch less likely to happen.
okay - so tell me in the real world...what differentiates the MBA and some other netbook? What does it do differently? What market are Apple looking to penetrate?
BTW - You are comparing a 13" laptop, which I was not. Tell me which 13" has an Atom processor. I am not arguing with you...I think Apple got it right, which if you re-read my posts, you would understand. The fact is...it is Apple's offering to compete with the Netbook market. Small, but powerful. They got it right.
Operating system DOES matter. It is what makes iPad better than other tablet forms. It is what makes Apples Netbooks better than others.
ps - please don't tell me what I need to learn about GHz. That could be considered rude.
Also remember if they use CF it can be any color or colors they want, doesnt have to be the black everyone thinks of...
However i doubt they will goto CF because the reason for the current alluminumchoice is not purely for asthetics it is also for heat disapation... Most cutting edge hardware that is compacted generates alot of heat hince the reason you upper scale custom pc cases are made of alluminum ie lian li.
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7" screen for iPad? Blah. I doubt it.
Steve said that anything less than 10" is "DOA" so i don't think so.
Steve said that anything less than 10" is "DOA" so i don't think so.
I included the 13" because that is considered an ultraportable, as the MBA 11.6". I would also add that the MBA 13" and 11" are just to format of the same model.
It was clear that Apple went on competing on the netbook market with the iPad - if you remember last january keynote in the case you have seen it.
As I said in few post before, a netbook is a cheap laptop, an ultraportable is a premium yet more portable laptop, which also means that is not really cheap.
I considered W7 vs OSX an argument not needed because is a feature that doesn't make any difference in categorizing the hardware.
You brought the GHz argument up, you were just inaccurate by associating the power relating it to CPU cycle rate.
As far from being rude, I don't think is the case. I don't mean to be, I just express my opinion for the sake of a good argument. If I by chance resulted rude to you, please don't take that as an offence.