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iPad 2 With NFC-Equipped Accessories, Carbon Fiber Body? 7-Inch iPad Still Alive?

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I have a Parker Fly Deluxe guitar made out of lightweight tonewood with an exoskeleton of high-modulus carbon and glass fibres. It is very strong and the lightest electric guitar I have ever played.

Aluminum is so cold and so passée. The iPad is hip and now.
I think the iPad would look great in carbon fibre, especially if Apple were to produce it in designer colours - forest green, burgundy indigo etc.
 
I feel your pain for a 7 inch iPad. I've been cheering for one since the beginning. But I do have to agree with what Steve says about shrinking down the screen size and 7 inches is just not a pocket-able size. That still leaves the field open for a 4 or 5 inch screened iPod which would enlarge the retina display slightly with pixel size not count which would not require any resolution changes and still be pocketable. I think we can hope for that.
I think if a smaller size is going to happen this year it is not going to be an iPad but an iPod Touch - a MaxTouch or TouchMax if you will.
 
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rorschach said:
Steve has also "made it clear":

-No Mac App Store
-No Apple eBook reader
-No video iPod
-No Apple tablet
-No Apple cell phone
-No need for a camera on the iPod touch
-No plans to make the iPad hardware switch user customizable between mute and screen lock
-No third party apps on the iPhone
-No raising iTunes prices
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Moral of the story: Whatever Steve says, believe the opposite. Which in turn means, there will be:

- 7" iPad
- Blu-Ray on all devices
- Touch screen iMac
- ios apps with porn
- Mid-tower Mac Pro

:)
 
Fraaaa said:
I found this regarding aluminium/carbon fibre:

Some more aspect you need to take into consideration:
thermal resistance: carbon fibre does degrade quicker as temperature gets hotter.

Water absorption: unless it's a really top quality carbon with good sealant resin, CF will absorb water and degrade in performance.
Contamination by chemicals: see below.

Oxidation: carbon fibre oxidise and looses strength as it oxidise. The oxidation level is quite low at room temperature but increases with temperature and also chemical contaminant

Durability. as seen above CF will not have durability in time as you have with Aluminium. So be mindful as your product will not be as good in 10 years with CF as it is in Aluminium.

Also failure mode with CF is much more difficult to predict, analyse and failure are not a controlled as Aluminium. CF will shatter when crack initiate from a minimal defect or chip.
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So what about all the carbon fiber bikes that are meant for more durability? Makes no sense.
 
7 Inch Please

I agree with Mad Mac Maniac.

There is a place for a 7" iPad. It will be very convenient in many situations.

The 7" is about the largest one can hold in one hand.

The iPod Touch does not give enough room to read certain web pages, whose prints are too small across the screen.

Go for the 7" Apple!
 
carbon fiber naysers

for all the complaints and warnings about cf strength, heat problems, water weakness and who knows what else;

i suggest that you don't make a reservation on the boeing dreamliners (when they are released) as the fuselage uses cf as an integral part of its makeup.

if you are driving an indymac racer, the comfort zone is that the brake pads are usually cf.

cf's main proble now is that it is expensive. everything else is covered.
 
macguy2 said:
I agree with Mad Mac Maniac.

There is a place for a 7" iPad. It will be very convenient in many situations.

The 7" is about the largest one can hold in one hand.

The iPod Touch does not give enough room to read certain web pages, whose prints are too small across the screen.

Go for the 7" Apple!
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Remember that there are many different sizes of hand. Some wouldn't find 7" any better than 10" except for weight.

The huge problem with a 7" iPad/Tab/Playbook is that the combination of screen and bezel makes the device too big to fit in anything but a shoulder bag or extremely oversized pocket. From a portability standpoint it's barely any different from the existing iPad, but from a functionality standpoint it's far worse.

A post slightly above yours talked about a 5-6" device as a super sized touch or, as I've called it for the past year, the iNotePad. Same shape as an iPhone only bigger. No bezel at all except what's needed for structure, again like the iPhone. I've done the math. The device would be no wider than my wallet yet much thinner making it ridiculously easy to slip into any pocket and even the tiniest purse. A device that's as portable as an iPhone, but with roughly 3 times the screen area.

No it wouldn't be a "tablet" because it's not big enough to offer a tablet interface, but as a portable information appliance it would offer some advantages over existing devices:
- less expensive and vastly more portable than an iPad or other tablet
- longer battery life and better readability than iPhone/touch
- significantly lower lifetime cost than iPhone or other smart phone - no $$$$ multi-year term
- far more flexible than iPod touch thanks to built in 4G data capability

It wouldn't have to be a phone because it would have email/chat/FaceTime. If you really need to make a few calls do what I do: buy a cheap, pre-paid phone. I've been using the same flip phone for 5 years so the cost of the phone itself is negligible. You only buy minutes when you need them. Some carriers offer 100 minutes for just $10 and you get features like voice mail and call display for free, unlike most inexpensive post-paid plans.
 
Bregalad said:
Remember that there are many different sizes of hand. Some wouldn't find 7" any better than 10" except for weight.

The huge problem with a 7" iPad/Tab/Playbook is that the combination of screen and bezel makes the device too big to fit in anything but a shoulder bag or extremely oversized pocket. From a portability standpoint it's barely any different from the existing iPad, but from a functionality standpoint it's far worse.
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I agree with you to an extent. For some people (myself included) a 10" is a better fit. As I am a guy (and I'm assuming u are too) we would need to carry a bag for either. Our fairer sex on the other hand always already carry a purse with them. I can't imagine trying to fit a 10" iPad into any purse, but a 7" would fit much nicer. That's 50% of the people in the world that already would have a bag to carry a 7" iPad in... Also, a lot of companies are starting to use them for employee's, such as bank tellers and restaurant waiters. A 7" device would be much easier for these tasks. Also I have a feeling I would be surprised at how portable a 7" would be especially if they decreased the bezel size slightly

There is still a huge population of people that would benefit from a 7" and I think that apple would be foolish not to capitalize on that.
 
SJ said no 7inch Ipad, so I believe him. What I don't do is assume he means permanently. He could mean "no 7inch this refresh" I dunno I'd like to see a smaller device.
 
dbales said:
I for one would consider buying a 7" iPad model. What is everyone hating on it? I think it'd be great. Somewhere between the iPhone and the iPad. Perfect. Sign me up.
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IMO, it falls between two stools. It's too big to fit in a pocket, so you aren't likely to carry it around "on" you (i.e. without a bag/case). And if you're going to carry a case with you, you might as well get a bigger device and screen that lets you more easily view pages without having to zoom in and out.
 
thunderbird said:
moral of the story: Whatever steve says, believe the opposite. Which in turn means, there will be:

- 7" ipad
- blu-ray on all devices
- touch screen imac
- ios apps with porn
- mid-tower mac pro

:)
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- USB 3.0

I think that the 7inch *iPad*, will be a good e-reader, using iBooks.
 
PBF said:
So what about all the carbon fiber bikes that are meant for more durability? Makes no sense.
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Posted elsewhere:

I regularly sail on a Farr 40 built in 1989 in Carbon fibre it did very well n the Admirals Cup at the time. After 16 years there are no indications of any problems in the cf or epoxy. (and that in Oz sun) I would consider a cf construction a bonus in an old yacht however in this case it was a limited production run and for racing the design itself has becoe a bit old fashioned.

I was also involved in certification process for a little aeroplane built in cf and vinylester. The testing for longevity after about 5 years of accelerated environmental abuse showed no signs of long term failure. Just keep the UV rays of the epoxy and you should have no problems.

If a carbon fibre racing yacht can sail the sea for 16 years, then I think it may just about be good enough for the back of an iPad which will probably be dead and on a scrap heap in 5 years.
 
Piggie said:
Posted elsewhere:

I regularly sail on a Farr 40 built in 1989 in Carbon fibre it did very well n the Admirals Cup at the time. After 16 years there are no indications of any problems in the cf or epoxy. (and that in Oz sun) I would consider a cf construction a bonus in an old yacht however in this case it was a limited production run and for racing the design itself has becoe a bit old fashioned.

I was also involved in certification process for a little aeroplane built in cf and vinylester. The testing for longevity after about 5 years of accelerated environmental abuse showed no signs of long term failure. Just keep the UV rays of the epoxy and you should have no problems.

If a carbon fibre racing yacht can sail the sea for 16 years, then I think it may just about be good enough for the back of an iPad which will probably be dead and on a scrap heap in 5 years.
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Point taken, but I still be expecting this Liquid Metal technology to be adopted for computer casing.
 
if anything, the smaller iPad in the photo is the current iPad and there will be a larger one released eventually. There will not be a smaller one.
 
i highly doubt a bigger one. that gets to the point it isn't really easily portable. i think in the future they'd definitely make a smaller one. no way on a larger one.
 
I don't know if it's been suggested, but could the NFC be for something other than typical point-of-sale use?

One of the top criticisms of tablets has been the difficulty of touch-typing & extended text entry. It'd be great for students (for example) if they could arrive at a lecture, swipe their iPad (or other supported device) by another NFC device by the door which sends them the lecture notes, so they can focus on listening to the tutor.
 
roocka said:
Liquidmetal is twice the strength if carbon fiber.
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And Damien Hirst's diamond encrusted skull would give even the thickest fool a headache, but usually a simple explanation is sufficient.

Not only is there no need for the strength afforded by liquid metal in the back of an iPad, it would be prohibitively expensive. Liquid metal is a new technology better suited to small sealed units such as fuel cells - where the leakage of the contents/process inside would be catastrophic.
 
I would love NFC. I hate having to carry cards and cards around with me everywhere. But the question is how many places will offer it within a year? Course then again Apple loves to be a game changer.
 
Alladdinn said:
Aluminum is so cold and so passée. The iPad is hip and now.
I think the iPad would look great in carbon fibre, especially if Apple were to produce it in designer colours - forest green, burgundy indigo etc.
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It's "fiber". Also, Apple is all about aluminum. It's dirt cheap and can be processed faster. Apple will NEVER produce designer colors or skins like other manufacturers for the ipad. ****, they can't even get a white iphone right.. "Waaaah, we're blaming it on the paint.. for the past few years, yeah it's been the paint". They're idiots.

remember.. "fiber"
 
ShredderClay said:
I would love NFC. I hate having to carry cards and cards around with me everywhere. But the question is how many places will offer it within a year? Course then again Apple loves to be a game changer.
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Poor fella... Apple didn't create NFC and isn't the only one pushing it to the masses. It'll be out on Android devices in the field before any iStuff. Keep up with the outside news... there's more than just Mac news.
 
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