iPad 2 WITHOUT light bleeding issue?

[Piggie]

What are the chances of Apple changing to Super AMOLED screens, which are thinner and have totally zero backlight bleed problems, as they don't need a backlight at all.

As noted: They could then make the next iPad even thinner just by using such a screen, and I guess have a better battery life also.

Any chance?

 

[Entame]

Can someone post or link to pictures of an ipad 2 with bad light bleeding?

Mine has some (two small spots on the bottom corner, about the width of my pinky finger). I only noticed it when playing Swords and Sworcery. It doesn't impair my experience at all. I thought it would annoy me when watching videos, but it doesn't.

At 100% brightness, it is definitely more pronounced but still not that bad (and definitely not distracting enough that it bothers me at all).

I'm curious if i just have a very minor problem, or if others are just a lot more sensitive to the issue then me.

 

[wineandcarbs]

I don't even know if mine does. I don't think so, but I haven't specifically looked for it, despite reading about it on here.

 

[BBlord]

My first one has two bad spots. I got a replacement, and the second one had 9 not as bad but definitely noticeable spots. I decided to just get a full refund after the second one though because I wanted to change the model anyways. Hopefully the next on I get doesn't have the issue.

 

[RossMc]

Can someone post or link to pictures of an ipad 2 with bad light bleeding?

Mine has some (two small spots on the bottom corner, about the width of my pinky finger). I only noticed it when playing Swords and Sworcery. It doesn't impair my experience at all. I thought it would annoy me when watching videos, but it doesn't.

At 100% brightness, it is definitely more pronounced but still not that bad (and definitely not distracting enough that it bothers me at all).

I'm curious if i just have a very minor problem, or if others are just a lot more sensitive to the issue then me.

Taken from the Backlight Bleed thread.

 

[krnboy503]

The two I bought during US Launch Day had some bleeding.

The one I got last week is PERFECT, NO BLEEDING

It's all luck

 

[paulcdb]

well i guess if your in a pitch black room, brightness at 100% and staring at a completely black screen with the ipad 2 inches from your face... then yes, mine has some bleeding.

Seriously though, who's going to be doing that all the time

If you want one, go buy one... there will always be the odd faulty item with electronics. More successful an item then the higher chance of some slipping through but i've yet to hear of apple refusing to exchange a model if someone wasn't happy, but i think this whole light bleeding is getting blown out of proportion.

 

[VidPro]

LOL. Who knows, I just might...

In defense of my posts, I'm in no way suggesting that this issue doesn't exist. My only point is that I think there are people who are making more out of it than is necessary. As peaceActivist said, I doubt there are any "perfect" displays out there. And if you happen to get an egregiously bad one, per your personal preferences, return it for a replacement. As has been noted, Apple is acknowledging that some units do have an issue and are willingly replacing them.

Agreed and you will find out what a wonderful person I am over time.

For my part it's me just getting frustrated over hearing the this is being blown out of proportion line. I'm actually tired of hearing about it and I think I'll post in another thread about something positive so I don't have forum police on my back.

 

[VidPro]

Well, all I can say is keep waiting for that 'perfect' LCD screen, and its never going to happen. I don't care what an Apple Specialist or AppleCare rep tells you. Don't you get it that this has been going on in two generations of devices now. Why do you think they would change it now? They can't keep them on the shelf, which means there is no issue from a masses standpoint. Most are happy with their devices. A year from now, you'll be posting the same thing over and over again about substandard this and that, and the rest of the masses will be enjoying their device. Hopefully you aren't in the market to buy an oversized LCD television anytime soon. I'd love to see how that plays out.

Seriously though, why not just avoid the iPad and go buy something else that lives up to your standards? Apple products are what they are. If you don't think that your money is worth the quality that you get, then simply don't buy one. You are the empowered consumer, and on the same token, Apple owes you nothing.

The question is why would anybody put up with this in an HDTV? Plasma, baby!

I still feel we are talking about two different things here. Cloudiness or uneven blacks in an LCD I understand and it doesn't bother me (although I would like it to be better if not perfect) but this spotlight/flashlight issue can't be commonplace on any decent LCD TV. Is it?

 

[Cheetablaze]

What are the chances of Apple changing to Super AMOLED screens, which are thinner and have totally zero backlight bleed problems, as they don't need a backlight at all.

As noted: They could then make the next iPad even thinner just by using such a screen, and I guess have a better battery life also.

Any chance?

I love Samusngs SAMOLED screens. I have been trying to talk myself into upgrade my Captivate to something else but the screen sets itself apart from everything else. I couldn't image 9.7 inches of SAMOLED goodness, I bet that could cause your retinas to bleed on the highest setting!

 

[Entame]

Taken from the Backlight Bleed thread.

Thanks.

Wow, those are a lot worse then expected, even if they are under conditions meant to emphasis the problem (dark room, high brightness).

Mine has 2 small spots, but not nearly as severe as anything in this problem. I can definitely see being extremely upset by light bleed to that degree.

 

[kas23]

I don't have these light bleed issues with my iPad 2, but I have never gone looking for them. I haven't spent too much time looking at a black iPad screen within a pitch-black room. I'll be sure to get right on that though.

 

[VidPro]

I only use my iPad in blinding sunlight so no problems here.

Anyway, that looks pretty bad but I agree with those who say if you don't see it at your setting then keep it. It could be worse.

 

[omfintrepid]

I honestly do not know why there are so many apologists on this forum. While it is a great product, quite clearly there is a reasonably widespread issue.

Now while it may improve in time and most people can get faulty ones swapped, Apple are still inconveniencing a good number of their customers, especially those living out of reach of their stores, due to a lack of quality control in a rush to get the products out.

So actually I for one while I love my iPad, don't see a need to apollogise for an Apple which as of late seems to have got caught up in it's own hype to the detriment of their customers.

 

[scwatkins77]

Mine has no issues whatsoever. Neither did my iPad 1 or my iPhone 4, despite all the reports of problems with those. Problems do exist, but most of the devices sold don't have them.

 

[Zcott]

This whole issue seems a whole lot like antennagate to me. A lot of fuss over a minor detail. Apple didn't 'fix' that 'problem' so I doubt they'll 'fix' this 'problem'. And it'll go away on its own.

 

[Carouser]

Now while it may improve in time and most people can get faulty ones swapped, Apple are still inconveniencing a good number of their customers, especially those living out of reach of their stores, due to a lack of quality control in a rush to get the products out.

Would I be an apologist if I said:
(1) you haven't distinguished 'fault' from 'nitpick' (not everyone dissatisfied has the same issue)
(2) 'a good number' is self-serving
(3) You haven't shown these issues are a function of 'lack of quality control' and that alone
(4) You haven't shown that this lack of quality control is because Apple was rushing the product release

I don't know why there are so many apologists on this forum either! Do you know why there are so many people on this forum who just make stuff up to suit their arguments? I figure you have the 'inside scoop' on that one, so to speak.

 

[omfintrepid]

Would I be an apologist if I said:
(1) you haven't distinguished 'fault' from 'nitpick' (not everyone dissatisfied has the same issue)
(2) 'a good number' is self-serving
(3) You haven't shown these issues are a function of 'lack of quality control' and that alone
(4) You haven't shown that this lack of quality control is because Apple was rushing the product release

I don't know why there are so many apologists on this forum either! Do you know why there are so many people on this forum who just make stuff up to suit their arguments? I figure you have the 'inside scoop' on that one, so to speak.

I'm not going to continue to argue a point I'm just expressing my view.

What I will say is if I lived a few hours from an apple store, and had to go swap it out in my own time, I would be inconvenienced and that is not good customer service. I think most people would agree with me on that statistics or not.

 

[VidPro]

Mine has no issues whatsoever. Neither did my iPad 1 or my iPhone 4, despite all the reports of problems with those. Problems do exist, but most of the devices sold don't have them.

I'd like to think so but after returning two and my third still with this issue (although much better than the first two) I find it more likely it's an issue most people don't recognize. But I think this point we are going around in circles so I'm going to sit back and hope that this gets resolved in the future.

 

[2 Owls]

What is your point 2 OWLS? Are you saying that the light bleed problem does not exist? Or that it does exist and we should just shut up and accept it?

Take the whines to apple get it replaced if its broken/defective instead of bleating about them over the net, unless its more fun to have a defective product than one that works.

 

[cmvsm]

The question is why would anybody put up with this in an HDTV? Plasma, baby!

I still feel we are talking about two different things here. Cloudiness or uneven blacks in an LCD I understand and it doesn't bother me (although I would like it to be better if not perfect) but this spotlight/flashlight issue can't be commonplace on any decent LCD TV. Is it?

I hear ya. I think Plasmas are on the chopping block these days. Everyone wants THIN, and you can only get the paper thin sets out of the LCD technology. I was looking at a Mac Air the other day, and can't believe how thin that computer is, especially the LCD. Really amazing.

We may be talking about two different issues of the LCD televisions. I guess my point is that, in my experience, I've never run into a perfect LCD screen, no matter what flaw it might have from bleed to clouding, to flashlight/spotlighting. I've had two Sony's, two Samsungs, 1 LG, and a Toshiba. All were in the upper echelon of offering in terms of quality, and every one had some kind of anomaly. I did try and exchange the Samsung after the second one, and they told me to go fly a kite. The tech said that I actually had a 'good' one from the many that he had seen.

So I've learned to accept the technology for what it is, within my personal tolerance, and move on.

 

[Snowy_River]

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Now while it may improve in time and most people can get faulty ones swapped, Apple are still inconveniencing a good number of their customers, especially those living out of reach of their stores, due to a lack of quality control in a rush to get the products out.

...

Okay, so we can now, clearly, talk about the tug-of-war issue. When iPad 1 was launched, it was talked about as the most successful electronics product launch in history. Now the iPad 2 is outselling the iPad 1. With lines of people at stores and weeks of delays in online orders, we get plenty of people saying Apple wasn't ready for this launch, they should have had faster production ready, they should have built up more of a stockpile, etc.

Now, from posts like the one above, we have people saying that Apple shouldn't have tried to produce them so fast, they should have taken a slower route in manufacturing and guaranteed better QC.

Huh. Maybe Apple was trying to thread a needle here? Maybe their manufacturing partner assured them that they'd have a certain level of QC at a certain rate of production? Maybe said mfg. partner couldn't quite live up to that level of QC on the initial run, leaving Apple to either drastically constrain the supple or deal with it on the fly and quickly and easily replace anyone's defective units?

Note: I'm just trying to point out that the manufacturing world is no where near as simple as a lot of people on here seem to think it is, and there are always a lot of hard decisions that need to be made, as well as issues of trusting what your business partners tell you when it comes to things that don't have direct control over...

 

[JM2-uk]

I hear ya. I think Plasmas are on the chopping block these days. Everyone wants THIN, and you can only get the paper thin sets out of the LCD technology. I was looking at a Mac Air the other day, and can't believe how thin that computer is, especially the LCD. Really amazing.

We may be talking about two different issues of the LCD televisions. I guess my point is that, in my experience, I've never run into a perfect LCD screen, no matter what flaw it might have from bleed to clouding, to flashlight/spotlighting. I've had two Sony's, two Samsungs, 1 LG, and a Toshiba. All were in the upper echelon of offering in terms of quality, and every one had some kind of anomaly. I did try and exchange the Samsung after the second one, and they told me to go fly a kite. The tech said that I actually had a 'good' one from the many that he had seen.

So I've learned to accept the technology for what it is, within my personal tolerance, and move on.

Let's be fair though. You are the fellow that told us how you had dealt with a lot (lot is the word I draw your attention to) ipads. Then you told us it was 8 and as I pointed out to you, 8 really doesn't register on the pimple of existence.

I have run into many very good LCD screens (all types). As stated on numerous occasions, it is not perfection that is sought. What is sought is some uniformity with the bleed. The ipad 1 generally had things pretty much sorted. The ipad 2, generally, does not. The bleed can be managed. It does not have to look like it does. A consistent halo on the perimeter of every ipad and everyone would accept that.

LCD needs to be backlight. We all know that. It is how that backlighting is managed and constructed. The ipad1 was acceptable.

The current iterations of the ipad have an inconsistent approach. There are halos and bleeds in random spots. Anyone with a *DOT* of backlighting knowledge knows that that is quite easily suppressed.

What we are currently seeing with the ipad 2 display is unacceptable.

 

[JM2-uk]

Okay, so we can now, clearly, talk about the tug-of-war issue. When iPad 1 was launched, it was talked about as the most successful electronics product launch in history. Now the iPad 2 is outselling the iPad 1. With lines of people at stores and weeks of delays in online orders, we get plenty of people saying Apple wasn't ready for this launch, they should have had faster production ready, they should have built up more of a stockpile, etc.

Now, from posts like the one above, we have people saying that Apple shouldn't have tried to produce them so fast, they should have taken a slower route in manufacturing and guaranteed better QC.

Huh. Maybe Apple was trying to thread a needle here? Maybe their manufacturing partner assured them that they'd have a certain level of QC at a certain rate of production? Maybe said mfg. partner couldn't quite live up to that level of QC on the initial run, leaving Apple to either drastically constrain the supple or deal with it on the fly and quickly and easily replace anyone's defective units?

Note: I'm just trying to point out that the manufacturing world is no where near as simple as a lot of people on here seem to think it is, and there are always a lot of hard decisions that need to be made, as well as issues of trusting what your business partners tell you when it comes to things that don't have direct control over...

In response to your balanced approach, Apple had a number of choices to make. Commercial, strategic and customer focused.

They have balanced the three in order to try and appease all. But, we all know, that commerciality has won out. They swap out the faulty units for those that complain and for those that do not, win win. They know no better.

They also get the release out.

What is frustrating is that they keep quiet about the whole faux pas. I realise why but it would be a far more respectable company (oxymoron?) that would step up and admit the issue. It would do wonders for the brand.

As the brand stands, everyone with eyes and brain knows this is not how it should be. The enlightened ones get refunds and replacements until they are happy. The rest? They simply say they will use it in directly under the sun at midday, with no shadows for 3 minutes.

 

[edtorious]

too many post but no pics on this thread? I was hoping this thread will finally convince me to buy one if I can at least find one with no bleed.