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If you really believe that, then the promotional material becomes a self fulfilling prophecy with you as Apples slave in the center. Good luck!

Personally I enjoy the features of iCloud, but I think people are really missing the point here. My posts are not about my preferences, rather simply stating the obvious about the strategy.

You can shoot the messenger, but it won't change the fact that every release from this point forward will be increasingly integrated with iCloud. You can decide for yourself if that fits your needs or not.
 
While your needs may seem defendable... Or even reasonable to this audience... Ask yourself how much the mainstream tablet user needs. Who keeps tv shows after they are watched? How many movies do you need to lug around?

I'm not talking about your needs or even your friends... I'm talking about the other majority of users out there. On the bell curve, your needs are probably a notable exception rather than a marketing target.

Ok then most users will at least have what, a least 4gbs of music, they at least fool around and take 3-4 gbs of video and images, most will also store some PDF and other files in good reader or similar browser storage apps at about 4gbs, most will also have 3-4 games at the very least amounting to 3-4 gbs, the apps they download at the very least will be another 5 gbs as there are a lot of cool but storage costly apps there too. Most users will also have some iTunesu, podcast and audiobook content at at least, at the very least always, 3gb, and at the very least each one will have some 4 gbs of added content be it audio recs, large useful apps, large video files for their kids, self, spouse, large stored map apps, etc. etc.

So at the very least and with very conservative content management, most users should have about 30gbs on their iPad, which renders the 16gb one a joke, the 32 gb one filled up and inadequate, and the 64gb one merely decent.

We are bsing about here, in this day and age and with all the content for the iPad, the starting model should have been 64gbs, in line with the air circa 5 years ago which didn't have all these special apps and capabilities to begin with, and ram nowadays is dirt cheap, dirt cheap. Who would have thought that the iPad would be aiming at iPhone storage levels in 2012? And eff the cloud, the cloud is useful but hardly so when you don't have some storage on the device too.
 
This is good and bad for me. Good because prices will remain the same & bad because now I see there won't be a 128GB model. Oh well…either way this will be my First iPad…a black 64GB WiFi + 3G :D
 
I honestly dont think there is enough flash memory in the world. Apple is already the biggest flash buyer and there have been talk of shortages. To double it, I don't think apple could even if they wanted to.

I don't think that's why they're doing it. It's pure greed. Flash memory prices have been falling but by keeping the same memory levels they can probably offset the additional costs of the better screen to maintain their 50% profit margin. It's pure greed. They could take a hit on the iPad 3, up the memory and make a little less profit but they won't coz they are ONLY interested in the money. They don't want you to buy much content from iTunes coz they don't make any money on iTunes anyway. Apparently they're only doing it for the benefit of their customers. Yeah right. It wouldn't be so bad if they added an external memory slot so we could buy additional memory cards or something. But Apple wouldn't make any money on that so they don't.

They should preload that old Abba song "Money, money, money" onto every Apple product sold these days or make it the default ring tone on the iPhone lol.
 
I don't think that's why they're doing it. It's pure greed. Flash memory prices have been falling but by keeping the same memory levels they can probably offset the additional costs of the better screen to maintain their 50% profit margin. It's pure greed. They could take a hit on the iPad 3, up the memory and make a little less profit but they won't coz they are ONLY interested in the money. They don't want you to buy much content from iTunes coz they don't make any money on iTunes anyway. Apparently they're only doing it for the benefit of their customers. Yeah right. It wouldn't be so bad if they added an external memory slot so we could buy additional memory cards or something. But Apple wouldn't make any money on that so they don't.

They should preload that old Abba song "Money, money, money" onto every Apple product sold these days or make it the default ring tone on the iPhone lol.

Apple exists to make money? There's this thing called capitalism, you should look into it.
 
Apple exists to make money? There's this thing called capitalism, you should look into it.

They used to exist to make great products and the profits came along with it.

Now they only exist to make money.

Capitalism? Oh right is that why you have 10% unemployment, 40 million Americans with no healthcare and a trillion dollar deficit while the communists in China are taking all your jobs and stockpilling your dollars.
 
Nice bit of wishful thinking, but it won't happen. Third parties cater for niche markets.

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It's an Apple stylus for the iPad 3.
 
Apple exists to make money? There's this thing called capitalism, you should look into it.

I thought apple existed to make great products? There's that other thing besides capitalism you know, what happened to Microsoft, it's a few more nuanced qualities like vision, innovation, taste etc. that when people like you go we exist to make money they usually end up getting effed by people who exist to make something beautiful and creative along with making money. You should look into these other attributes you know cause if you think apple is here where they are because it's members have existed to make money instead of following their talent and creativity along with making money you are seriously misguided.
 
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Nice bit of wishful thinking, but it won't happen. Third parties cater for niche markets.

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It's an Apple stylus for the iPad 3.

You could say that about cases too, but Apple came out with their own Apple Case.
 
This is good and bad for me. Good because prices will remain the same & bad because now I see there won't be a 128GB model. Oh well…either way this will be my First iPad…a black 64GB WiFi + 3G :D

You may find you don't need 64GB of space, let alone 32GB. The only time a 16GB iPad gets filled up is with movie storage, but if you aren't watching many movies you probably won't run into limitations here.

I don't think they'll have 128GB models until the flash memory is much cheaper, anyway.
 
So those of us who actually have day jobs are out of luck trying to get one on launch day, huh?

Honestly I hope not, I run a fairly demanding business and it's not always possible to skip out on work at our busiest hour to buy a new iPad. However most Apple stores should be stocked fairly decently. Unless the other rumor is to be believed about possible iPad shortages due to the retina display.
 
I don't think that's why they're doing it. It's pure greed. Flash memory prices have been falling but by keeping the same memory levels they can probably offset the additional costs of the better screen to maintain their 50% profit margin. It's pure greed. They could take a hit on the iPad 3, up the memory and make a little less profit but they won't coz they are ONLY interested in the money. They don't want you to buy much content from iTunes coz they don't make any money on iTunes anyway. Apparently they're only doing it for the benefit of their customers. Yeah right. It wouldn't be so bad if they added an external memory slot so we could buy additional memory cards or something. But Apple wouldn't make any money on that so they don't.

They should preload that old Abba song "Money, money, money" onto every Apple product sold these days or make it the default ring tone on the iPhone lol.
Right, let's add an external SD slot so half of your apps can disappear when you remove the card or when it fails. This is not like a camera that won't have its basic functionality altered by taking out a removable memory card. Can you just imagine the mess it would be if you had some apps on one external card an others on another? Syncing would be impossible, and you would have to keep a record of which app was stored where. And when the memory card fails (as many of mine have), you blame Apple for the failure and the loss of all your data.

Apple is about ease of use and predictable functionality. I can see the appeal of a removable battery, but not an external memory slot. Just supply the device with sufficient memory in the first place!
 
how will the retina display effect the size of the newer retina-display-apps?

how much larger will apps be? 20, 50, 100% larger?

I wanted the 16gb but might have to consider the 32gb if the apps are going to be double the size...
That depends on how much artwork is in an app. If it's a game with a lot, it could be a significant increase but I'd doubt a two fold increase. I'd say images will consume four times as much space as their iPad 1 & 2 counterparts.

These larger images will also use up four times as much space in RAM as their counterparts too, a 1024x1024 image will take up 4MB in RAM, and a 2048x2048 image will take up about 16MB in RAM. (That's just the home screen.)
 
Right, let's add an external SD slot so half of your apps can disappear when you remove the card or when it fails. This is not like a camera that won't have its basic functionality altered by taking out a removable memory card. Can you just imagine the mess it would be if you had some apps on one external card an others on another? Syncing would be impossible, and you would have to keep a record of which app was stored where. And when the memory card fails (as many of mine have), you blame Apple for the failure and the loss of all your data.

Apple is about ease of use and predictable functionality. I can see the appeal of a removable battery, but not an external memory slot. Just supply the device with sufficient memory in the first place!
Yeah but they aren't doing so in the first place.:)
 
You may find you don't need 64GB of space, let alone 32GB. The only time a 16GB iPad gets filled up is with movie storage, but if you aren't watching many movies you probably won't run into limitations here.

I don't think they'll have 128GB models until the flash memory is much cheaper, anyway.

Just the apps with no content stored at all will take up the whole 16gbs, a few games, and a few heavy apps and you re done on the 16gbs, what are you on about? I have an iPad 2 32gbs with a few podcasts, minimal photos and vids, no music, a few PDFs in good reader, and almost 1/2 of the apps stored in iTunes not the iPad, and nearing full capacity. There is no way 16gbs work on iPad 3 when you also have to store almost double the resolution images all around...
 
You may find you don't need 64GB of space, let alone 32GB. The only time a 16GB iPad gets filled up is with movie storage, but if you aren't watching many movies you probably won't run into limitations here.

I don't think they'll have 128GB models until the flash memory is much cheaper, anyway.

Oh trust me, with all the thing I plan on putting on my iPad, 64 might be enough..I wouldn't have those worries with 128 tho
 
If Apple can maintain the same price point while offering the retina display then I think that spells even more trouble for Android tablets. Android OEM's already have a hard time matching the iPad's price and now that it has an expensive new screen (which Apple is taking up all the manufacturing capabilities for), how will they respond. It's going to be interesting to see.
 
There have been a billion rumors around the 3.0 but they are all about Retina or 3G or quad-core.

So what new enhancements are we gonna get that aren't super technical? Doesn't sound like iOS 6.0 is coming with it. I haven't heard anything regarding new/more default software...or improvements on the software...no stereo speakers. No new iTunes syncing (or other) enhancements...nothing regarding enhancements of the browser.

I guess I will just have to wait a few days and see...kind of bummed all these rumors here are the same 2-3 topics over and over and over and over...

I was hoping to see a 32GB model as the base...for a lot of reasons...not to mention the physical size of the 3.0 has plenty of room for some chips so let's stock these things up, Apple.
 
So those of us who actually have day jobs are out of luck trying to get one on launch day, huh?

You don't have personal days through your employer? If you don't, I feel sorry for you. If you do and can't even think of taking one, even worse: it's called 'work-life balance'. My manager and my director know I'm an Apple-freak, and they take it as a given I'm going to take the day off to get my hands on one of these. Having caring bosses: PRICELESS.
 
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