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iPad 3 to be Same Price and Same 16GB/32GB/64GB Sizes as iPad 2

saud0488 said:
Again, WHY do you have that much on there? Are you going to watch 88 episodes all in one viewing? Even two? Even 20? It's all on your PC, isn't it? Music I can understand since it's a very passive activity. and COME ON, who really uses the ipads camera for photography? It's facetime that the camera is used for most all of the time.


The bigger capacity iPads don't make sense to me. For as much as Apple is trying to push iCloud as the future of storage, they sure aren't backing up the talk with larger (64 gb) PORTABLE tablets.
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I have a 16GB iPhone and a 64GB iPod touch. The iPod touch has nothing but music and is completely full and is still missing most of my music. I bought it on the 3rd generation and have refused to upgrade until a 128GB iPod touch.

The iPhone has no music and only apps. It is completely full. iCloud is useless except for backups because if it backups your apps and you remove it you still loose you app data because iCloud deletes it.

Also not to mention not everybody lives in a city. I am not near wifi for much of the day and using a cell network will never work for streaming data so I will want to keep my music, movies, apps and anything else on the iPad at all times.

I am buying a iPad 3 to replace my laptop because I DO NOT want to carry one around anymore. If I need to use a computer that is what I got LogMeIn Ignition for.
 
Mmmmm, i find it strange that 3 years after 16gigs has become the standard base that it still is. The original iPhone was 4 gigs, 3g iPhone 8 gigs, and the 3gs, 16 gigs. I wonder why those were so faster at increasing yet we have been stuck on a 16 base since?
 
gnasher729 said:
Here's the problem: If Apple cannot get as many retina displays as they could sell, what are they going to do? They can't sell iPad 2 and iPad 3 at the same price. They are not going to sell the iPad 2 for a lot less than now. So there are two possibilities: The iPad 3 will sell for more than the iPad 2 does today, with iPad 2 possibly reduced in price. Or only selective models will be available. For example, only iPad 3 with 3G and 64 GB, until enough retina displays are available for other models.
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You really have no idea how Apple operates, huh? Why do you think there is a major problem with Retina display availability? Constrained supplies are nothing new to Apple, demand is always high, and shipping dates extend out for the first few weeks/months as they work to catch up with demand. No need for a "what are they going to do?" - they'll do what they always do - build them as fast as they can.

Secondly, why do you say "They are not going to sell the iPad 2 for a lot less than now."?? If they decide to keep the iPad2 around as an entry-level product what makes you think they wouldn't substantially reduce the price, just like they did with the iPhone 3GS??

Your logic makes no sense.
 
CrackedButter said:
I need a larger iPad.
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pmau said:
If Apple would allow on demand download of movies and TV shows, they would be no need for 128GB. Most of the really big content are videos or data from OpenGL games.

In two years when LTE is available, the whole content ownership model will be obsolete.

Also, doubling capacity adds cost and risk of failure. QA is really important.
(Try to image the number of transistors needed for 64GB, let alone 128GB)
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I boggle at the number of people who WANT this to happen.

Putting aside all technical issues of bandwidth and the like... Don't people realize how much easier censorship will become if media is only available in the "cloud"?

Or content creators being able to modify their work ala George Lucas, and not let you watch the original versions anymore?

I'll download my own copy of my media and keep it stored locally, THANK YOU.
 
Adidas Addict said:
Thumbs up if it annoys you when people insist on installing their entire music collection on every device they have, only to listen to the same two or three playlists all the time!
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Ahh, the "choice-is-a-bad-idea" army. Please post your anti-choice comments somewhere else, but not here on MR! :rolleyes:

Everyone uses what he/she wants. Not what you want.

God forbid! Options and a choice are deadly weapons! ;-)
 
saud0488 said:
Yes cause people actually would use that much on a tablet
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With the new iTextbooks each being anywhere from 1.5GB - 4GB in size and many high-end games at 1-2GB in size - the "retina" versions of which will be even larger - it is not unreasonable to assume that people might need 128GB to hold it all.
 
Jeez, in that pic above, imagine what that device's radiation is doing to his 'externals.
anyway, we all here get a little confused and hyper about new Apple products. 85-90% of ipad buyers are mainstream consumers, that is who apple targets new products at. Most of the people I know with iPads didn't even know a new one was coming out a week ago. Apple satisfies their core customers, old and new. Apple nuts like us on here, expect and want alot, but Apple is not making the ipad3 for techies as much as the mainstream buyer.
 
Mobster1983 said:
Not really. Go on a week-long trip and you can easily go above that with movies. I like to keep all my apps, magazines and books on the iPad for reference if nothing else. I have also been away for up to a month with no Internet access.

I will be disappointed if there is no increase in storage space, but I'll still buy the iPad 3 to replace my original iPad.
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If you have an Internet connection plex would be perfect. between that and iTunes match only things I want when I don't have an Internet connection are stored on my iPhone or iPad which is a few playlists maybe a movie or two on the iPad an the rest apps and books
 
Gone are the days of significant increases in storage for every release. Apple clearly believes in the cloud and is betting the future of the company on it.

Like it or not, that's the deal.
 
scoobydoo99 said:
You really have no idea how Apple operates, huh? Why do you think there is a major problem with Retina display availability? Constrained supplies are nothing new to Apple, demand is always high, and shipping dates extend out for the first few weeks/months as they work to catch up with demand. No need for a "what are they going to do?" - they'll do what they always do - build them as fast as they can.

Secondly, why do you say "They are not going to sell the iPad 2 for a lot less than now."?? If they decide to keep the iPad2 around as an entry-level product what makes you think they wouldn't substantially reduce the price, just like they did with the iPhone 3GS??

Your logic makes no sense.
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So what deep inside do you have into Apple's supply chain? Retina displays of that size are brand new technology. They haven't been for sale anywhere. Apple is already buying a very substantial percentage of _all_ touchscreens at the lower resolution. It is quite unlikely that some brand new technology can ramp up to the same production numbers in a very short time. You'd think that is just common sense, but apparently not.

You say "they'll do what they always do - build them as fast as they can" - but that is a complete misunderstanding of the situation. If demand for iPhones is higher than Apple can build, then Apple is losing sales, but there is nothing they can do except "building them as fast as they can". But if Apple can get plenty of lower res screens, but not enough higher res screens, then Apple needs to decide on a strategy that minimises the damage. And about your iPhone 3GS remark - you may not realise this, but iPhone 3GS and iPhone 4 are just about 10% of the total revenue. So Apple can afford a lower price on the 3GS because it is very little lost profit but does maximum damage to the competitors. Reducing the price of the iPad 2 would be substantial reduction in profit.

Now you surely have the right to disagree with this, but when you say "your logic makes no sense", that just proves that you didn't think properly about it and your reaction is just emotional, because my analysis doesn't agree with what you _want_ to happen.
 
AppleHater said:
It's all about personal choice. You or Apple have absolutely no right to decide is what is right for me or him or anyone.

This whole iCloud excuse is a complete non-sense as long as we have only 5GB iCloud storage for free and 3GB per month cellular data plan.
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Apple has no right to choose what's right for you? You're buying their product.

Or yes. You're correct. Your rights are certainly being taken away.
 
I'm calling that Canadian and US prices will have parity. The iPhones are now, as well as the iMacs. Macbook Pro's are still $50 more here than the states and iPads are $20 more.

MacAttacka said:
Great news for the US but I wonder how Apple will re-value iPad 3 in international territories relating to differing exchange rates.
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Patriot24 said:
Gone are the days of significant increases in storage for every release. Apple clearly believes in the cloud and is betting the future of the company on it.

Like it or not, that's the deal.
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Bs, cloud or no cloud if with 30 apps and a few vids and songs you ve filled up, and you ve space for camera vids, ebooks, PDFs, files, mails, attachments, audiobooks, podcasts, audio files, maps, etc etc then they better start putting in some ram that ain't a joke like 16gb since it anyway costs peanuts to them or in a few months we will be androiding and Samsung their ass with similar retina displays. And the cloud is there for you to draw stuff from it and store them, where the hell are you gonna store them with 16gbs of ram? The iPad is more capable now and certainly more app worthy than the air say and it can't get more than 1/4 storage of the air circa 5 years ago?
 
gnasher729 said:
So what deep inside do you have into Apple's supply chain? Retina displays of that size are brand new technology. They haven't been for sale anywhere. Apple is already buying a very substantial percentage of _all_ touchscreens at the lower resolution. It is quite unlikely that some brand new technology can ramp up to the same production numbers in a very short time. You'd think that is just common sense, but apparently not.

You say "they'll do what they always do - build them as fast as they can" - but that is a complete misunderstanding of the situation. If demand for iPhones is higher than Apple can build, then Apple is losing sales, but there is nothing they can do except "building them as fast as they can". But if Apple can get plenty of lower res screens, but not enough higher res screens, then Apple needs to decide on a strategy that minimises the damage. And about your iPhone 3GS remark - you may not realise this, but iPhone 3GS and iPhone 4 are just about 10% of the total revenue. So Apple can afford a lower price on the 3GS because it is very little lost profit but does maximum damage to the competitors. Reducing the price of the iPad 2 would be substantial reduction in profit.

Now you surely have the right to disagree with this, but when you say "your logic makes no sense", that just proves that you didn't think properly about it and your reaction is just emotional, because my analysis doesn't agree with what you _want_ to happen.
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Don't mean to jump in the middle of your spirited debate here, but I think the shortage rumors are simply speculation. Every major product in recent years has had a shortage rumor attached to it.

In reality, Apple holds their own media events on their own schedule so that they don't have to launch a product with insufficient stock due to a shortage. If they have a supply problem, then they can simply push the release and no one knows.

My assumption is that they aren't holding keynotes without a critical mass of stock sufficient to meet initial demand.

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blow45 said:
Bs, cloud or no cloud if with 30 apps and a few vids and songs you ve filled up, and you ve space for camera vids, ebooks, PDFs, files, mails, attachments, audiobooks, podcasts, audio files, maps, etc etc then they better start putting in some ram that ain't a joke like 16gb since it anyway costs peanuts to them or in a few months we will be androiding and Samsung their ass with similar retina displays. And the cloud is there for you to draw stuff from it and store them, where the hell are you gonna store them with 16gbs of ram? The iPad is more capable now and certainly more app worthy than the air say and it can't get more than 1/4 storage of the air circa 5 years ago?
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I'm not the one you should be arguing with. I am simply telling you that this is their strategy. It is very clear from all of their promotional materials that they are headed the way of the cloud.

Apple does what Apple wants. Don't buy it if you don't like it.
 
Patriot24 said:
Don't mean to jump in the middle of your spirited debate here, but I think the shortage rumors are simply speculation. Every major product in recent years has had a shortage rumor attached to it.

In reality, Apple holds their own media events on their own schedule so that they don't have to launch a product with insufficient stock due to a shortage. If they have a supply problem, then they can simply push the release and no one knows.

My assumption is that they aren't holding keynotes without a critical mass of stock sufficient to meet initial demand.

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I'm not the one you should be arguing with. I am simply telling you that this is their strategy. It is very clear from all of their promotional materials that they are headed the way of the cloud.

Apple does what Apple wants. Don't buy it if you don't like it.
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Point taken.:) But apple also does what people buy, they keep short changing us on ram, there sure be other trees with pretty much the same fruit
 
WCLPeter said:
Yes, people actually would use that much space on a tablet. I've got 29 movies that take up 38.13 GB and I've also got 88 episodes of TV taking up another 39.57 GB.

That's 77.70 GB right there, throw in my 8,562 songs for 47.35 GB and an additional 5.10 GB for the 123 apps I have and you're looking at a whopping 130.15 GB worth of stuff. As it is 128 GB won't even cover everything, and I haven't talked about the Podcasts I listen to or the fact I'd need extra space in order to use the built in camera to take video and pictures; kind of need room for all those extra activities.

Just because your personal needs don't merit a 128 GB device doesn't mean other people's needs don't.

Personally I don't much care if the iPad 3 has 64 or 128 GB, though I would much prefer 128 GB, since I have an iPod Touch for my music and I could offload the videos on it to the iPad. But the upcoming iPod Touch had better have 128GB because between my music library, a bit more than a 1/3 of which still hasn't been imported from my CD collection yet, and the apps, 64GB leaves me pretty close to the limit meaning I have to be very careful on what I buy lest I run out of space.
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While your needs may seem defendable... Or even reasonable to this audience... Ask yourself how much the mainstream tablet user needs. Who keeps tv shows after they are watched? How many movies do you need to lug around?

I'm not talking about your needs or even your friends... I'm talking about the other majority of users out there. On the bell curve, your needs are probably a notable exception rather than a marketing target.
 
I expected it to be priced higher due to the retina display, so I'm hoping this is true. I'd much rather have a base 16GB iPad 3 at $499 than an iPad 2 16GB.
 
how will the retina display effect the size of the newer retina-display-apps?

how much larger will apps be? 20, 50, 100% larger?

I wanted the 16gb but might have to consider the 32gb if the apps are going to be double the size...
 
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