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This is really stupid. Why in God's name would anyone be walking around with both an iPad and a laptop in their bag? Apple should just introduce a compact notebook with 3G built in say like the next MacBook Air. I was going back and forth about buying an Air when I bought my iPad and frankly the only reason why I went with it over the Air is that I can connect virtually anywhere because of the 3G. If the MacBook Air had 3G built in, the iPad wouldn't have even been on my radar.

Because it has been said by Apple, and many many people on this forum again and again, the iPad is NOT a computer and it's NOT been designed to replace one, so if you need to use a computer when you are out on your travels you would need to carry a laptop as well as your iPad

Until Apple releases the lock downs on the iPad which stops it being the device it currently is, and constantly need syncing to do basic tasks, then this won't change.

The ball in in Apple's court to change it.
 
so, this is nice for those who own an iPad 3G only. (and not an iPhone). But at first blush it seemed like it would allow the iPhone<->iPad thing, but it does not.


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Not sure why it would seem that way to anyone, even for a second. There is absolutely no reason Apple would ever allow it, nor could they, without adding a wifi tethering option. Furthermore, Jobs himself said it would not be a feature, and no iPhone customer would ever buy a 3G iPad if this were officially possible.

Fortunately there is a very easy and cheap way to share your iPhones 3G data with anything, which everyone should use if only for the principle of it.
 
Because it has been said by Apple, and many many people on this forum again and again, the iPad is NOT a computer and it's NOT been designed to replace one, so if you need to use a computer when you are out on your travels you would need to carry a laptop as well as your iPad

Until Apple releases the lock downs on the iPad which stops it being the device it currently is, and constantly need syncing to do basic tasks, then this won't change.

The ball in in Apple's court to change it.

Yea, ok. The balls are floating around lonely in your head, somewhere.
 
I don't know why people just won't jailbreak their devices.

I think it is mostly to do with the association of the name jailbreak (something illegal it sounds like) and the popularity of pirating apps (but do you associate the internet with piracy? it's the same concept, both have GATEWAYS to piracy, but not everyone takes them)


Jailbreaking doesn't ruin your iPhones warranty, kill your battery, make your phone unstable, etc.

Sure there are many tweaks, hacks, apps, etc that can do the above.. but if you're smart and only install the essential / reputable apps, you will be fine. Example is MyWi, if you jailbreak your iPhone, only install MyWi, you will be fine. For a one time fee of $20, you can have a WiFi hotspot device that far surpasses any tethering our Generous AT&T or Apple would ever give us.



Yeah, exactly, I can pay $20 to a not very reputable company to get a very shaky app that sometimes works, sometimes doesn't. When it works it chews through my battery power, oh and I don't know if it's not really stealing my data. It requires me to download another app installer and framework, which btw turns out is now being bought out, so there's no guarantee that it will continue working in future updates or that my purchase will even be recognized...

Yeah. I definitely want to jailbreak, again and yes that was my experience in just getting MyWi to work and it did make my phone unstable as hell. I'm un-jailbroken right now and buying a Mifi from Virgin Mobile. $25 more a month after I drop my $30 unlimited on my iPhone to the $15 a month plan and I will have access with my iPhone, iPad and all future versions of those devices and my laptops as well, without the added 3G costs for the iPad.
 
Not sure why it would seem that way to anyone, even for a second. There is absolutely no reason Apple would ever allow it, nor could they, without adding a wifi tethering option. Furthermore, Jobs himself said it would not be a feature, and no iPhone customer would ever buy a 3G iPad if this were officially possible.

Fortunately there is a very easy and cheap way to share your iPhones 3G data with anything, which everyone should use if only for the principle of it.

I don't think that's true. There is still a lot of support for a device that is just instantly on the network.

Besides, if Job's argument were true, that would be going away in the future as more other devices offer hotspot access and more people have it by default. Apple would be shooting themselves in the foot by not encouraging people to have both an iPhone and iPad.

I'm banking on them waiting for the LTE iPhone, probably next year, after the release of the next wave of iPads. They'll call it iShare or iWi, something crazy to make it sound like they invented it like they usually do.
 
Because it has been said by Apple, and many many people on this forum again and again, the iPad is NOT a computer and it's NOT been designed to replace one, so if you need to use a computer when you are out on your travels you would need to carry a laptop as well as your iPad

Until Apple releases the lock downs on the iPad which stops it being the device it currently is, and constantly need syncing to do basic tasks, then this won't change.

The ball in in Apple's court to change it.

The iPad is a full fledged computing device, but it does not replace the horsepower of a full OS. In other words I'm not going to try to encode a whole movie on it or store hundreds of GB of data on it. But for basic viewer interface, for reading, for watching movies, for light email and word processing it's fine.

The lock downs have nothing to do with the issue and the syncing problem is only a problem for Apps and users that haven't figured out how to save their work to networked services properly. For the the rest of us that understand the device, it's fine.
 
Lol Stingray. Most of the world doesn't have the kind of customer friendly telephony services available in Sweden. In the UK swapping SIMs around will work but contradicts the terms of the carrier and may land the user with a huge bill for inappropriate use of data. I have 3 iPhones, iPad and Mobile Broadband - for that O2 require me to have 5 separate accounts and SIM cards all billed individually. Inefficient is how we like to do things in the UK - it helps to justify the cost and confuse the consumer :)

Wow. I had no idea you poor bastards we getting gutted by the phone companies like that :) Here it's at least only $5 per new device that wants to enjoy your existing data plan (don't think there is any device cap either), and even that makes some people here frown at "greedy companies". I guess we're pretty blessed after all :D
 
If I pay to have access to AT&Ts network I want access dammit it doesn't matter what device I use because I can only use ONE device at a time. I'm human not a damn octopus!
 
why is this still missing the "view account" screen under cellular data?! that is critical to seeing how much of your limited data plan you have left. :confused::confused:
 
Wow. I had no idea you poor bastards we getting gutted by the phone companies like that :) Here it's at least only $5 per new device that wants to enjoy your existing data plan (don't think there is any device cap either), and even that makes some people here frown at "greedy companies". I guess we're pretty blessed after all :D

Consider yourself blessed. Here, for over a month now, after lunch O2's data network falls apart. So those 5 devices of mine have additional usage restrictions not in the terms and conditions :)
 
Yeah, exactly, I can pay $20 to a not very reputable company to get a very shaky app that sometimes works, sometimes doesn't. When it works it chews through my battery power, oh and I don't know if it's not really stealing my data. It requires me to download another app installer and framework, which btw turns out is now being bought out, so there's no guarantee that it will continue working in future updates or that my purchase will even be recognized...

Yeah. I definitely want to jailbreak, again and yes that was my experience in just getting MyWi to work and it did make my phone unstable as hell. I'm un-jailbroken right now and buying a Mifi from Virgin Mobile. $25 more a month after I drop my $30 unlimited on my iPhone to the $15 a month plan and I will have access with my iPhone, iPad and all future versions of those devices and my laptops as well, without the added 3G costs for the iPad.

Enjoy your Mifi. My MyWi 4 works just fine. No stuttering, no hiccups, beautiful battery life (by being able to turn off the pulsing status bar and use a little icon instead) and I only paid $10 with having owned it in the past.

Oh yeah, and there is no Rock required to get it anymore, hasn't been that way for a few weeks now... The no guarantee you talk about is pretty much only related to iOS updates. When I went from 3.1.3 to 4.0, the old one didn't work. It took a little bit for them to update it for 4.0, but that's the beauty of taking care of your phone. If you want, you don't ever have to go past iOS 3.x.x. Just don't update your apps and you'll be fine.
 
That's when you just give up and jailbreak it.

So true! That is why I jailbroke my iPhone. I have a iPad Wifi and on the rare occasion that I need to use it outside Wi-FI, I use MyWi to connect the iPad to the phone. Works great.

I can't see why this could not be an option for the normal tethering functions. I guess this is to make you buy an iPad 3G. :(
 
I'm one of the sorry saps paying for access on both devices--and if I could do without paying one, I would--but I have to admit--the whole jailbreaking thing DOES cause me a bit (well more than a bit) of apprehension. Is this miwi app really worth it? Safe? Foolproof? (for the most part?)
 
so, this is nice for those who own an iPad 3G only. (and not an iPhone). But at first blush it seemed like it would allow the iPhone<->iPad thing, but it does not.


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Which is why, Apple and AT&T or any service provider that charges data for one device and then again, for yet another device by the same account holder, is why both Apple lost an iPhone sale and AT&T a minutes subscriber under a two year contract.

Having a 3G iPad and 29.99 unlimited data plan (before the 25.00 2 GB crap), I cannot see what's in it for me to get an iPhone and ATT plan that includes paying for another data plan when I already have one. Two actually... my cable company broadband internet at home, AT&T unlimited for the iPad... I don't need a third data plan for an iPhone through AT&T when I am paying for their data with 'unlimited' access to it... Maybe if someone ever gets their act together, but...

Sorry AT&T... Sorry Apple... :(
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I'm one of the sorry saps paying for access on both devices--and if I could do without paying one, I would--but I have to admit--the whole jailbreaking thing DOES cause me a bit (well more than a bit) of apprehension. Is this miwi app really worth it? Safe? Foolproof? (for the most part?)

I've been tethering from my iPhone 3GS, and now my iPhone 4 with MyWi for well over a year. Prior to the iPad, I used it with a laptop, since April I've used it daily at work, probably more on the iPad than ever. I think the most I've ever used is around 9 gigs in March when I use my Slingbox to watch the NCAA tourney at the office. My avg. Is more likely 3 to 5gigs. Never heard a word from AT&T and still on the unlimited plan I've always had.

If AT&T offers ever gets it's act together and allows tethering for maybe $10 more than I pay now I would consider that but for now MyWi works flawlessly. Zero battery issues, and maybe once every few weeks it will not start up and ask me to reboot. Other than Cydia, MyWi is the only app I own from JBing. I refuse to pay double for data, and ATT won't do a damn thing because they would rather have me as a paying customer vs canceling my account. They are making big money as it is, unless someone is severely abusing the data plans I would bet money MyWi users will never have an issue with AT&T.
 
My Dad's iPad 3G has already had the tethering ability, since day one.
It's ridiculously expensive for the 2 GB capped allowance, but yeah, it's possible to do today.
 
Use Sprint

Damn, I want my iPhone to share its 3G stream with my iPad. Keep waiting...

My Sprint Android phone will do this tethering on a month to month basis with an iPad or my Intel MacBook Pro or even my iPod Touch. Plus my phone screen is big enough to actually see.
 
My iPhone carrier in the UK is Three.
With their network, tethering is free. It just gets counted as part of your data allowance.

This means my un-jailbroken iPhone's 3G connection can be shared with my MacBook Pro - and even my netbook over Bluetooth.

But not the iPad.

The iPad lacks the Bluetooth PAN stack which is present on other Apple machines. I am very happy that the iTether app has replaced something that should have been there all along.

C.
 
Wow. I had no idea you poor bastards we getting gutted by the phone companies like that :) Here it's at least only $5 per new device that wants to enjoy your existing data plan (don't think there is any device cap either), and even that makes some people here frown at "greedy companies". I guess we're pretty blessed after all :D

I can see why some people frown at the per device cost. Here in the neighboring Finland I can tether my iPhone with any device without asking my carrier or paying them anything extra :rolleyes:. Here the logic has always been that you’re already paying for the data plan… who cares how you use it.

These kinds of locks are just not something that fit well here. My iPhone is carrier locked to Sonera (first and only ever phone to be available only as locked) but starting today the iPhone is available from another carrier and without any locks, contractual or otherwise. Frickin’ finally.

But yeah… I’d like to see the lock from iPad removed. As it stands… iPad is currently the only device I can’t tether the iPhone with :eek:. (Or couldn’t, as I don’t have one.)
 
tethering was always possible with jailbreaking the phone. It's a sad fact that most people associate jailbreaking with piracy which is not the case.

What do you call it when you jailbreak your device to tether in an unapproved manner on AT&T's network?

"Most people" associate jailbreaking with wrong doing not necessarily piracy. There are very few legitimate reasons more technical people jailbreak. Technical people are drawn to jailbreak to tether in an unapproved manner on the 3G network, circumvent download sizes on the 3G network, hack DRM on apps, and a few other things that escape me at the moment that "most people" wouldn't normally do. Plus "most people" don't want to risk jailbreaking for fear of device instability that may create an exploit or damage the device they just shelled out cash and a 2 year contract on.
 
The iPad is a full fledged computing device, but it does not replace the horsepower of a full OS. In other words I'm not going to try to encode a whole movie on it or store hundreds of GB of data on it. But for basic viewer interface, for reading, for watching movies, for light email and word processing it's fine.

The lock downs have nothing to do with the issue and the syncing problem is only a problem for Apps and users that haven't figured out how to save their work to networked services properly. For the the rest of us that understand the device, it's fine.

I would call the iPad a computer.

I am just repeating LOUD arguments against that when others have called it a computer.

I don't know about not understanding the device as you put it.
We can't even create folders and move photo's into the appropriate folder without connecting the iPad to a PC, Laptop or Mac.

Come to think of it, you can't even use one at all from new, till you connect (or get someone to do it for you) the iPad to a computer.
 
They are making big money as it is, unless someone is severely abusing the data plans I would bet money MyWi users will never have an issue with AT&T.

I know.....Those big evil fat cats filling tubs full of our hard earned dollars and just bathing in it. It's not like those big fat evil cats take the money we pay to use their services and reinvest in the business or employ the tens of thousands more than minimum wage. Those cat evil big fats just roll up those benjamins and smoke them instead of paying dividends to hundreds of thousands of shareholders. And like how smart can these fat evil big cats be running a multi-billion dollar business that millions of users depend on a regular basis. I'm sure they're are not smarter than a 5th grader. They probably didn't even graduate high school or like ran anything ever before this. We definitely have every right. I mean it's a right because we have no choice but to take back what they took from us for using their service.
 
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