I think the fact that "they are stuck with what they get" is the what has motivated Apple to branch out into their own processor design. I really wouldn't mind seeing a MBP at some point with Apple-designed CPU, GPU, and RAM. That would make for a really powerful cohesive system.
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I think the fact that "they are stuck with what they get" is the what has motivated Apple to branch out into their own processor design. I really wouldn't mind seeing a MBP at some point with Apple-designed CPU, GPU, and RAM. That would make for a really powerful cohesive system.
iPhones are personal devices, so multi-user support makes no sense there.
But in my house, the iPad tends to be a shared device. That means I can't really use apps like Mail, Facebook, Twitter on it because they have no good support for multiple users. And useful features like iCloud password in Safari have to be turned off because you don't want it logging in to every website (and filling in credit card numbers!) when someone else is using the device.
If iOS could recognise each user and present a personalised iOS environment -with separate app settings, and iCloud login, for each user - it'd make the iPad a much more useful and convenient device.
Using Touch ID, this could be made entirely automatic and transparent. iOS recognizes each user and presents their app environment. Someone else touches and they get their apps and settings.
I'm curious to learn why you think that this would be a bad feature!
Apple's solution to this is Family Sharing - Apple wants you to create AppleID's for your kids using you as the administrator of those AppleID's - they can then have their own AppleID to sign into their own devices with for everything, iTunes, App Store, iCloud, iMessage, etc, so the iCloud and iMessage syncing issues, deleting of pictures, etc. is solved, but they can still access the apps you buy or have bought, you can approve the buying of new apps, keep track of your family members whereabouts with Find My Friends, etc.
iOS devices will NEVER offer multi-user accounts on the same device as a feature, because Apple wants them to be personal, and sell on to each person not one to each household.
neat...
Now that's a computer
8 frekin cores in a phone.....
what will we all do with that i wonder...
11 if you count the CPU. And unlike on Android phones, they can all work AT THE SAME TIME
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Which is no solution at all. First, family sharing is only partially functional, forcing many of us who have been using a single account for years to stick with it. Second, my kids are 3 and under. It will be years before they will have their own devices. There is a huge window of time when a full kids or guest mode is appropriate. Third, I will always have an iPad of some sort that is shared among the family because it is so convenient to keep one in the kitchen for reference, music, video calls, etc.
With iPad sales forecast to fall by as much as half this quarter, Apple ignores this reality at their own peril. I wager that we will see some sort of multi-user support in the next 1-2 years, maximum.
11 if you count the CPU. And unlike on Android phones, they can all work AT THE SAME TIME
iPad, you mean. It's not in the phone.
Agree completely. I went from iPad 3 to the Air 2 and as soon as I touched the screen with the first gesture it was amazing the speed and fluidity on this baby. Best Apple device I've ever touched and it's not even close.
I'm not disagreeing with you, I have wanted that feature for a while. But I also wonder how multiple user accounts would help you in your use case anyway?
I mean if every user is still tied to your/a single AppleID (Apple is going to use AppleID's for this feature if they ever release it, because iCloud and the App Store are based on it) then how does that solve your issues? Your kids will still be on your AppleID and all of the same problems will exist that you described.
My kids are 3 & 4 and I made AppleID's for them. They each have a hand-me-down iPad 2 32GB that is "their own." from my wife and I, who are on an Air and Air 2 respectively. I have set restrictions on each of their iPads as I deem appropriate, require them to receive permission for App Store and IAP, and they still have access to all the educational and kid apps I bought for them previously under my AppleID. Also, this has freed up my wife to use her own AppleID exclusively on her iPhone and iPad now. She also gets approval rights for App Store and IAP our kids try to make.
It has really simplified things, because now each device can just sign in once to iCloud and be done. No more complicated setting with having to turn off iMessage, log into iMessage, the App Store, and iCloud with different AppleID's, etc.
This is why I think that Apple's Family Sharing solution is really the only way to go. Even if iPads got multi-user accounts, Family Sharing would have to be used alongside of that in order for it to be of any real use.
The only real "bugs" or lack of functionality I am seeing so far with it, is that some apps haven't been upgraded to be compatible with it, such as two my wife uses, Pinterest and Instagram. There are a few of the kids' educational apps that aren't updated either. The biggest irritant with it is that the auto-update feature stops when it hits one of these apps, so my wife (who is definitely not tech savvy) always has 25+ updates because Instagram is blocking everything, for example. I'm confident this stuff will melt away as time passes.
All that being said, I can possibly see the big iPad Pro offering this feature, if any iOS device will. I expect this to be priced equal with the entry level MBA, so starting at $799 probably for a 16/32GB Wifi.
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11 if you count the CPU. And unlike on Android phones, they can all work AT THE SAME TIME
What are you talking about? Modern Exynos chips CAN use all their cores at once. :|
You're right that if they tie multiple user accounts strictly to an AppleID then it will be difficult to accomplish exactly what I want. That said, there is no reason they need to do this. In fact it would make more sense to tie it to an iCloud id which has really become the more 'personal' of Apple accounts. (iMessage, Factime, iCloud, etc. are all tied to iCloud ID's not AppleID.) Then you have all your own settings, but payment is still managed by a central account. Further, for my needs, a simple guest account would accomplish 99% of what I want. Either way, all I really want is a way to lock them down from being able to modify settings or delete things.
From my understanding with Family Sharing, in-app purchases are not shared, not all apps participate at all, and Itunes Match is not shared. These are deal breakers for us.
Don't forget to have perfect white balance and 99.9999% standard RGB color gamut range!!
Oh yeah, and 179° viewing angles with no color or brightness loss!!
;-)
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iCloud ID are AppleID's - one in the same. That's my point. You can sign into any one device using different AppleID's for the App Store, iMessage, and iCloud respectively, and you can even sign up and have multiple separate AppleID's for yourself! (Useful if you are a dual citizen like me especially)
You make good points though. I thought IAP was shared by apps updated for Family Sharing? I'll have to double check that. We don't use iTunes Match, that would be a big road block if we did though, I agree. Apps themselves will eventually all support it though, I feel. the only ones I've run into that don't are actually free downloads anyway ATM.
Guest account is a superb idea. If they only did that instead of doing the whole multi-user feature, it would still be huge.
Yeah it's really foolish to question Apple's decisions. Not all Apple consumers are dumb.
Well I assumed Apple wouldn't take the Air from 100% sRGB to 65% sRGB, lol.
You do realize that the Air's display is excellent in all the ways you just mocked, yes?
Oh please! They totally ruined the Mini. It used to be a great machine for the price, but now that it's welded shut the price is effectively hundreds of dollars more for less.
Apple should think about expanding the Mini's market. No reason not to do it, unless they're afraid nobody will buy their precious all in one desktops that overheat and force you to buy either a display or a computer you don't need.
Since the current market is supposedly former Windows users, it would be wise to offer a machine that shows OS X in an acceptable light. A 5400 rpm HDD with insufficient, non-upgradable RAM is a good way to alienate new Mac users for life.
Oh don't be retarded.
The GPU here is the equivalent of Apple's first steps with the A4 and A5 --- take someone else's design cells but start modifying them to learn how to do things. This seems like it's at about the A5 level of Apple doing their own thing --- take cell IP that Imagination provides, but tweak it slightly to create an Apple specific config.
Presumably the next steps will be, for the A9 GPU, an Apple custom GPU like Swift --- very impressive, but ultimately safe; and for the A10 an Apple custom GPU that, like Cyclone, incorporates all the riskier and more difficult design choices that were omitted from the A9. (For example the equivalent of shocking the ARM world with a 64-bit ISA would be a GPU that incorporated full HSA for very rapid communication between CPU and GPU, very easy off-load of non-GPU throughput tasks to the GPU that's as easy to use and as low overhead as GCD is today...)
Ipad 2 has had a good life because later iPads went a few steps backwards when Apple went with a retina screen.
But iOS8 has turned the Ipad2 into a snail. Hopefully performance be fixed in an upcoming patch. But it's a lot less responsive now than pre-iOS8.
The other reason the iPad 2 still kicked it is all most people use it for are surfing and email and video and some light gaming.
But iOS8 has turned the Ipad2 into a snail. Hopefully performance be fixed in an upcoming patch. But it's a lot less responsive now than pre-iOS8.
The other reason the iPad 2 still kicked it is all most people use it for are surfing and email and video and some light gaming.
the real question for me is
are apple working towards a powerful, low power, cheap chip that they can roll out across ALL the products ?
I can see IOS and OSX merging in the near to mid future, with a Macbook air and the mac mini no longer being Intel chips , but rather beefed up versions of the same chip found in the iPad and iPhone of that generation.
This would then obviously roll out to the Macbook Pros and iMacs , i wonder when OS XI is due ?
are apple working towards a powerful, low power, cheap chip that they can roll out across ALL the products ?
I can see IOS and OSX merging in the near to mid future, with a Macbook air and the mac mini no longer being Intel chips , but rather beefed up versions of the same chip found in the iPad and iPhone of that generation.
This would then obviously roll out to the Macbook Pros and iMacs , i wonder when OS XI is due ?
Everybody waiting for that function on iOS8...
It definitely was tested with iOS 8, along with transit directions. This happens a lot. Apple tests features for an OS and they're not ready for primetime, and they usually get released in the next update. With 2gb of ram and the graphics power + processing performance, I have no doubt the iPad Air 2 will get split-screen multitasking.
Yup, I was actually joking about our previous discussions on other threads about the iPad Mini screen and how bad it is compared to the Air...I was alluding to how I really don't want them to force an @3x screen unless it can remain at least as good as it currently is in every other way.
Wouldn't be surprised if they are planning an @4x panel for this rumoured iPad Pro...
True, but thats not the point I made. I was talking about their internal components.
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Not really... My iPhone 6 beats, or is equivalent to all flagship android devices with processing power according to benchmarks.
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Haters will always Hate. The A8X architecture will pale in comparison to the A9.
The A9 will open a new category of devices, IMO.
I doubt it, unless they reduce the nm manufacturing process (again) - we will see what happens