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So they are still selling the ipad 2 to people who want to save $100 and get 1/5 the performance?

i bet you if you gave a iPad 2 and air to a typical user (not knowledgable) they wouldn't be able to tell you the difference in both besides weight and size.(maybe screen)
 
Unfortunately, even a huge speed increase isn't going to help Apple sell more iPads because almost no consumer cares about having more speed. All consumers want are cheaper iPads or tablets. Android tablet market share will continue to grow and Apple's iPad market share will shrink that much faster because of the higher sales cost. Apple's goal to provide the best tablets to consumers will remain intact but Apple's bottom line in terms of revenue will drop. Apple's consumer goals are basically a hindrance to the company's share price.

It's really a shame the tech industry doesn't acknowledge how good Apple tablets are. I'm sure the pundits are already yawning when they see the iPad Air, saying that it's just a faster, thinner, lighter tablet and complain that Apple has totally lost all sense of innovation and is overpricing itself into oblivion. Meanwhile, all the Android tablet vendors will be lowering the prices of their tablets and Wall Street will congratulate them for putting Apple out of business. :(
 
So what have Intel been doing the past couple of years exactly? I know they have improved on power consumption and what not but compared to how fast things are moving in the ARM world how exactly are Intel planning on competing in the long run?

Dunno. Weren't BayTrail's benchmarks better than those of the A7 on a number of Anandtech's tests?
 
It's really a shame the tech industry doesn't acknowledge how good Apple tablets are. I'm sure the pundits are already yawning when they see the iPad Air, saying that it's just a faster, thinner, lighter tablet and complain that Apple has totally lost all sense of innovation and is overpricing itself into oblivion. Meanwhile, all the Android tablet vendors will be lowering the prices of their tablets and Wall Street will congratulate them for putting Apple out of business. :(

The best product never wins the majority. That's just the way it is, and the iOS/Android war participants should understand this.

Is McDonald's hamburger better than Five Guys or Red Robin or (insert any hamburger you like)? No. But McDonald's is the best selling.

Most consumers buy based on price, and the lowest price will always win the war of numbers. The lowest price product is NEVER the best product. So competing based on who is selling better does not show who has the better product.

Looking at people with higher incomes and what THEY buy has more bearing on what the better product is, because those people are skewed to buy the better product instead of the cheaper product.
 
Now, there will be a band of whiners who is gonna expect a 2x increased performance with every generation. Anything less, will be an incremental upgrade.:rolleyes:
 
I don't know. It surely would be an engineering challenge to get the same resolution, performance (& battery life) in a smaller enclosure, unless there's some compromises somewhere.

the new iPad mini's specs are identical to the iPad air.exactly same just smaller screen.so they have moved from those challenges.
 
Always looking forward to reviews from Anand. He is really good!

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Unfortunately, even a huge speed increase isn't going to help Apple sell more iPads because almost no consumer cares about having more speed. All consumers want are cheaper iPads or tablets. Android tablet market share will continue to grow and Apple's iPad market share will shrink that much faster because of the higher sales cost. Apple's goal to provide the best tablets to consumers will remain intact but Apple's bottom line in terms of revenue will drop. Apple's consumer goals are basically a hindrance to the company's share price.

It's really a shame the tech industry doesn't acknowledge how good Apple tablets are. I'm sure the pundits are already yawning when they see the iPad Air, saying that it's just a faster, thinner, lighter tablet and complain that Apple has totally lost all sense of innovation and is overpricing itself into oblivion. Meanwhile, all the Android tablet vendors will be lowering the prices of their tablets and Wall Street will congratulate them for putting Apple out of business. :(

I have had a Nexus 7 for three days and I haven't spent over half an hour on it yet. My iPad is way better
 
Unfortunately, even a huge speed increase isn't going to help Apple sell more iPads because almost no consumer cares about having more speed. All consumers want are cheaper iPads or tablets. Android tablet market share will continue to grow and Apple's iPad market share will shrink that much faster because of the higher sales cost. Apple's goal to provide the best tablets to consumers will remain intact but Apple's bottom line in terms of revenue will drop. Apple's consumer goals are basically a hindrance to the company's share price.

It's really a shame the tech industry doesn't acknowledge how good Apple tablets are. I'm sure the pundits are already yawning when they see the iPad Air, saying that it's just a faster, thinner, lighter tablet and complain that Apple has totally lost all sense of innovation and is overpricing itself into oblivion. Meanwhile, all the Android tablet vendors will be lowering the prices of their tablets and Wall Street will congratulate them for putting Apple out of business. :(

To be honest, I haven't seen pundits yawning too much about the iPad Air and while there are certainly consumers who shop strictly on price, there plenty who shop on name recognition. Apple still have plenty of that. And really, if you look at what Apple have done over the history of iPad hardware with high performance chips, battery life, etc, it would be a big stretch to say with a straight face that innovation was lacking. Comparing iOS and Android, two OSs I work with every single day, I'd be hard pressed to say that one was more innovative than the other and it therefore comes down to personal preference.

So bottom line, I don't see a lower price-point across a multi-vendor offering (Android) to be a real threat at this time to Apple. Doesn't mean it can't happen, it's just my opinion, and hey, any fool can be a wall street analyst or investor :).
 
Remember this is only CPU performance, graphics performance shows almost no gains, so apple 2X was misleading.

If the GPU improvements were 100% and the CPU was 10%, they'd tout the GPU improvements. If neither were improved by more than 10% but the battery life was improved by 30% or so they'd tout the battery life in terms of hours and if none of the 3 were improved by any significant degree they'd simply suggest everyone looks at how thin and pretty it is :)
 
A great performance gain over the iPad 4th gen, a not-so-great improvement over the 5S.
These things are really getting powerful. And at that clock speed!!

Imagine if it ran at Sammy's clock speeds. Would please benchmarks and electric companies alike ;)

:apple:
 
Too bad it will never be as useful as a laptop. I can't imagine Adobe re-writing all of their software to run on iOs.
 
There is literally no app that takes advantage of this new found power. Apple's past argument is more relevant now than ever.... What's the point?

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The best product never wins the majority. That's just the way it is, and the iOS/Android war participants should understand this.

Is McDonald's hamburger better than Five Guys or Red Robin or (insert any hamburger you like)? No. But McDonald's is the best selling.

Most consumers buy based on price, and the lowest price will always win the war of numbers. The lowest price product is NEVER the best product. So competing based on who is selling better does not show who has the better product.

Looking at people with higher incomes and what THEY buy has more bearing on what the better product is, because those people are skewed to buy the better product instead of the cheaper product.

In that case iPhones are the hamburgers of the high end market because they sell the most.

Looking at people with higher incomes doesn't have a bearing on what is the better product. It has a bearing on which is the most expensive product. If you want to find out what the better product is, you need ask (better) more informed customers. But then a lot of rich people don't even know the difference between android and apple, they only get swept in by the looks and the marketing campaign and the fact that every celebrity has one so he needs on too.
 
Sorry, it gets even better. The score is also around the same as a 2009 Macbook Pro :)

http://browser.primatelabs.com/geek...ntel Core 2 Duo P8800" frequency:2660 bits:64

Don't get too excited. Modern laptop CPUs have lots of optimized paths like MMX, SIMD, etc added along the way. Thats why they have 10x more transistors than these skinny little ARM chips. When you optimize software for those (and OSX and Windows do this at API level) you easily triple performance of math or calculating vectors or encoding video versus the bare CPU.
 
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