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I was hoping to get one of these, but since I plan on using it along side my macbook air at work I really need the touch ID sensor. Looks like I'll wait and hope that it's on the next update in the Spring.
 
I was hoping to get one of these, but since I plan on using it along side my macbook air at work I really need the touch ID sensor. Looks like I'll wait and hope that it's on the next update in the Spring.
What makes you think there is a spring update?
 
As a picture frame or a fancy wall-mounted watch.

Pages for iOS requires iOS 7. iOS 7 requires an iPad 2.

Hahaha. No. I still use the iPad 1 for media consumption and some work (SSH client into Enterprise UNIX boxes). I check email, surf the Net, Netflix, games (my kids love it), take notes (when in class), use every banking app out there, watch tv (FiOS), write/record songs in Garageband, etc. It works. And not having iOS 7 is a blessing for me (I don't like a lot, not all, of it).

Apple nailed it the first time. Well, OK. The second time (once they put cameras in and made it a lot lighter).

This new iPad just makes everything way faster, is much more portable, and has way longer legs than the original iPad did. That is significant.
 
I wonder what the scores would be if they turned off "Hardware Acceleration" on performance monitoring apps..... oh wait......never mind :cool:
 
Higher performance in an iPad is definitely useful for me, because I regularly use GarageBand in conjunction with Sampletank, AmpKit+, JamUp, etc. When used with Audiobus, that really taxes a system.
 
For it to fully take off, iPad needs bigger than 1gb memory. With more memory, when I scroll up and down a webpage with many images, it won't render in and out of it.

I'm hoping iPad air 2 would get it.

Agreed. That is the most frustrating thing about Apple. They give you just enough to make performance acceptable (and enjoyable, to be honest), but it is easy to see what they could've done but didn't.

It's like the perfect machine is just-ever-so-slightly-out-of-reach....

Still, this is so nice and impressive I can live with the shortcomings I see, esp. coming from an iPad 1. Taking the plunge.
 
It would be nice if they could compare the benchmarks between the iPad Air and retina iPad mini so we could see if they really have the same performance.
 
in·no·vate verb \ˈi-nə-ˌvāt\
: to do something in a new way : to have new ideas about how something can be done

Making a better chip is not innovating, it's a technological improvement. You basically just said that having a bigger hard drive should be considered innovating.

Making the UI more intuitive is innovating, implementing new features is innovating.

I disagree. A technological improvement is innovation when you do not use the same process to get to the same (or improved) end result.

So, making a new chip is innovation. Perhaps making the same chip faster (overclocking) is not.

This iPad is damn near all new: new form factor, new chips architecture, etc., all while maintaining the functionality of previous versions. This is a vastly different iPad that does the same things, albeit faster and more efficiently and in a more comfortable package. So, it "does something in a new way". And what it took to get there is also innovative.
 
But can it multi-task.....

Faster also does not mean better.
I'm sure this version of iPad will crash on Apps like the current and past generations.
 
It would be nice if they could compare the benchmarks between the iPad Air and retina iPad mini so we could see if they really have the same performance.

I imagine all the usual sources will once they have the rMini in hand. My bet? They’re identically spec’ed (though some thermal variance could cause a slightly difference in actual performance)

Does anyone know about the graphics benchmark?

http://www.anandtech.com/show/7460/apple-ipad-air-review

Specifically page 4:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/7460/apple-ipad-air-review/4

:cool:
 
I have never thought for a moment that my iPad 3 or mini was slow, so I am interested to know how these results work in real world application.

Meaning that the speed of my web browser is often determined by the speed of my ISP, so how useful is this speed in reality?

Everything else is just App's opening and closing in simple terms (which is pretty fast anyway) and then App's running as they are designed to run, regardless of processor speeds.

let me understand -- are you claiming all tablet computing is now "fast enough", and the industry should freeze all improvements and increases to performance? is that *really* what youre advocating?

the faster the browser, the faster & more complex the web apps.

the faster the CPU/GPU, the faster & more complex the apps. maybe not Facebook, but games and more intensive apps for sure.
 
id like to see a comparison between apple, samsung, and MS tablets. I think one thing that fandroids and windows users always like to boast is specs (more core cores this, high clock speed that), without paying attention to how those specs translate into actual performance.
 
Poole claims that this is likely due to a number of factors such as a larger battery in the iPad Air that provides more power and a larger chassis that provides better cooling.

Really? The iPad Air has a "larger battery" in "a larger chassis"?
Then how can it be 28% lighter and have a 27% smaller internal volume?

241mm x 186mm x 9.4mm = 421cc, 650 grams (iPad 4th gen)
240mm x 170mm x 7.5mm = 306cc, 469 grams (iPad Air)

(650g - 469g) / 650g = 0.278 (i.e. 27.8% lighter)
(421cc - 306cc) / 421cc = 0.273 (i.e. 27.3% smaller internal volume)

Source: Anandtech http://www.anandtech.com/show/7460/apple-ipad-air-review

I guess we'll need to wait for some serious teardowns for specific component details. But in the meantime, I'll speculate that Apple has either 1. improved their battery technology so a physically smaller battery can provide more watt-hours, and/or 2. reduced the energy consumption of the Retina screen somehow. Maybe with the long-awaited IGZO conductor technology. Because as good as the A7 is, I don't think the A7 alone could reduce energy consumption by that much.
 
The tablet loses it's resale value, but not its use value. Tablets are good for a few years! Even the ipad 1 is running. iPads don't go bad because there is a new one.

$500 for 3 years lets say. Or $20,000 for ten years. WHY NOT BOTH?!

I still have a day one iPad 1st generation that I won't part with for the sake of nostalgia. I've had the 2, 3rd gen and 4th gen, and a mini too that I'm using now, but they all have gone or will go.

Also, that 1st generation iPad still runs exceptionally well for it's age. The new ones blow it away in the speed department, but when you pick the thing up and use it, it still provides a great experience for many things.

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Really? The iPad Air has a "larger battery" in "a larger chassis"?
Then how can it be 28% lighter and have a 27% smaller internal volume?

241mm x 186mm x 9.4mm = 421cc, 650 grams (iPad 4th gen)
240mm x 170mm x 7.5mm = 306cc, 469 grams (iPad Air)

(650g - 469g) / 650g = 0.278 (i.e. 27.8% lighter)
(421cc - 306cc) / 421cc = 0.273 (i.e. 27.3% smaller internal volume)

Source: Anandtech http://www.anandtech.com/show/7460/apple-ipad-air-review

I guess we'll need to wait for some serious teardowns for specific component details. But in the meantime, I'll speculate that Apple has either 1. improved their battery technology so a physically smaller battery can provide more watt-hours, and/or 2. reduced the energy consumption of the Retina screen somehow. Maybe with the long-awaited IGZO conductor technology. Because as good as the A7 is, I don't think the A7 alone could reduce energy consumption by that much.

He meant relative to the A7 in the iPhone. And yes, I think the iPad Air has a larger chassis and battery than the iPhone 5s.
 
if it's that much faster than a G5 1.6, how about a OS swap function to use full OS X when it's plugged in?

A guy can dream.
 
Geekbench (at least for computers) has a 32-bit test and a 64-bit test. If they applied the 64-bit test, probably it's not so fair to previous iPad generation. An iPad 32-bit doing 64-bit computing would have to do more calculations and memory readings/writings to make the same task.

Geekbench 32-bit, however, would give a more real-life scenario.
 
That's the useless 16 GB version without LTE. More like $700 for 2 years.
And after those 2 years your iPad is really old and slow. Unlike a car.

Useless for you maybe, not for others. In any case, you are ONLY paying a few hundred, why would you get 10 years out of it? Seriously. But original point, the tablets don't go bad when a new one comes out. Just saying.
 
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