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Haven't had a chance to use it much(on the phone here again). The crashing has been vastly improved, but the tabs still reload a ton with no other apps open and with <=5 tabs open.

I said earlier on that I was researching cars(selection criteria, sorting, etc...) on four tabs to show the misses, and after the first tab, they all reloaded. By that is better than 7.0.x where I had nothing but safari open with ONLY TWO tabs, macrumors and one other tab to research for quotes, and macrumors would reload when I tab back. Did that three times in a row, and then safari blew up on the fourth attempt.

Hopefully I'll get to work with it this weekend, since I'm still looking for a car.

So, better but far from flawless? At least they seem to be heading in the right direction. Maybe a 7.1.1 release would help?
 
So, better but far from flawless? At least they seem to be heading in the right direction. Maybe a 7.1.1 release would help?

I've had 6 safari blowups in the last 24 hours usin car sites with dynamic content. The shine is really coming off the 7.1 release.
 
I've had 6 safari blowups in the last 24 hours usin car sites with dynamic content. The shine is really coming off the 7.1 release.

Could you link the sites ?
I'm still having a wonderful experience with 7.1, even with several tabs opened.
This evening I was browsing three different forums with almost six tabs opened for cross referencing ....

You keep speaking about sites but in the last four days you had linked none ...

Ps: just to make a test I just opened KIA, FORD and BMW websites with configuration for three models and the I came back here to edit the post: no reloads.
How many different cars do you need to configure in the same time ?
 
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Subaru is a feature rich site that has blown up twice. Go to Edmonds.com pick any model with lots of reviews, and start cycling through the reviews. That blew up twice as well.

Sorry, been working to make up hours for weather days off, and have gone to 4 dealerships in the last 5 days. So this is pretty low on my list of items to accomish. But I do know that looking for cars in Safari makes 7.1 feel a lot like 7.0.x to me with all the blowups and reloads.
 
Subaru is a feature rich site that has blown up twice. Go to Edmonds.com pick any model with lots of reviews, and start cycling through the reviews. That blew up twice as well.

Sorry, been working to make up hours for weather days off, and have gone to 4 dealerships in the last 5 days. So this is pretty low on my list of items to accomish. But I do know that looking for cars in Safari makes 7.1 feel a lot like 7.0.x to me with all the blowups and reloads.

I'm trying Edmunds but I've got a lot of internal server errors so far ... I'll try later.
On the Subaru website I just configured a Forester with several accessories without any problem ....

Ps: in this exact moment I have this forum opened, I'm configuring a 2015 Forester with a lot of accessories and I'm reading reviews on the Edmunds site about an Acura RDX and nothing is reloading.
The Edmunds websites seem to be very poorly designed, with a lot of advertisement and keep loading and loading ... Maybe the problem was that website.
Btw I'm browsing it right now.

This evening I will test it again .... With 3-4 tabs (now I'm using 4 configuring a Ford also).
 
I've had 6 safari blowups in the last 24 hours usin car sites with dynamic content. The shine is really coming off the 7.1 release.

Yep me too. If you have a few tabs open in safari it crashes a bit.

However it honestly doesn't phase me much - reopen safari and everything is how it was.
 
Had all generations of iPads. However sold my iPad air. When i have borrowed my MBA for sister, i was doing my mini projects via iPad air. Keynote + Safari 3 tabs and tabs were reloading and crashing randomly, especially while rotating iPad....
Restored iOS 7.1 firmware as new, still issue persisted...It can't even held medium usage..
I don't have these issues on iPad 4 or iPad mini 1st gen....

I don't care if website is coded poor, it shouldn't crash your browser. Furthermore, with iOS 7 they introduced unlimited opened tabs via Safari but if it can't held atleast 4 tabs, shame...
I cannot understand how it is possible that you still have this problem with iOS 7.1

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But what about doing online payments or other important stuff via your iPad?... :/

I'm using my iPad for home banking without any problem ....
 
I'm using my iPad for home banking without any problem ....

I bought my iPad Air 2 days before 7.1 was released. It crashed a lot. After 7.1 I've had no issues and I have also done online banking with no issues, but I use my banking institutions dedicated banking app, not Safari.
 
I bought my iPad Air 2 days before 7.1 was released. It crashed a lot. After 7.1 I've had no issues and I have also done online banking with no issues, but I use my banking institutions dedicated banking app, not Safari.

I prefer mercury browser .... But I had one single crash from Safari since 7.1 installation, and it was forced by me to check it (a lot of tabs, a video embedded playing and apps running on background).
iOS 7.1 is rock solid in my experience.
 
I cannot understand how it is possible that you still have this problem with iOS 7.1

Because, the tab reloading issue is also a hardware issue. If you read what people have posted, many people who had the tab reloading issue greatly reduced or in some cases eliminated it by replacing their iPad. If you have a new iPad with 7.1 on it and it has major tab reloading issues, get it replaced.
 
Because, the tab reloading issue is also a hardware issue. If you read what people have posted, many people who had the tab reloading issue greatly reduced or in some cases eliminated it by replacing their iPad. If you have a new iPad with 7.1 on it and it has major tab reloading issues, get it replaced.

Until that gets confirmed by Apple I am not going to accept the Tab reloading as being a hardware issue. It's possible it's in firmware however which might explain people swapping out their iPads and having a better experience. I have to go to the Apple store on Wednesday to have my iMac serviced. I'm going to bring my iPad and ask them about this and check their floor demos.
 
Until that gets confirmed by Apple I am not going to accept the Tab reloading as being a hardware issue. It's possible it's in firmware however which might explain people swapping out their iPads and having a better experience. I have to go to the Apple store on Wednesday to have my iMac serviced. I'm going to bring my iPad and ask them about this and check their floor demos.

If you aren't experiencing tabs reload, like me, what can they check on your unit ?

What I can't understand is how could be that some users are reporting a very bad experience and on my iPad THE SAME WEBSITES are working just fine ...
I've tried the websites linked by count blah for a while, with no crashes or tabs reload ....
 
It is software, some has problems, some not because usage habits are different. It could be problems with RAM memory leaks or whole RAM management with 64bit OS which can be called by some usage situations. ;)
If future updates like 7.1.1 and etc. wont fix it then Apple made mistake with 1GB RAM and 64 bit :/

If with the same websites I don't have any problem, the 1 Gb has nothing to do with the issue .... since I haven't a special edition of the iPad Air
 
If you aren't experiencing tabs reload, like me, what can they check on your unit ?

What I can't understand is how could be that some users are reporting a very bad experience and on my iPad THE SAME WEBSITES are working just fine ...
I've tried the websites linked by count blah for a while, with no crashes or tabs reload ....

Okay, just to be clear, because I wasn't. I do experience Tab reloading. But I can also easily answer your question. At least in my experience the tabs do not reload on the fly. They have to be sitting open for a bit of time, or if I am surfing something very ram/cpu hungry on one tab it will cause the other tabs to reload when I go back to visit them.

I've been reading the thread. Many times people are saying that they are opening multiple tabs and nothing happens. Yeah, that's the case with me but I don't think they are not really testing them. I get less chances of this happening if I have no other apps open, and I get no tab reloading when it's just 2 tabs open no matter what's being surfed in one of the tabs.

While it may be a firmware issue that can be fixed, I have a hard time believing it's a hardware issue. And it's very possible that Apple may have released some iPads with a different firmware. Thing is I've only had my iPad for 10 days so it's brand new so that's why I want to confirm the real truth about this when I go to the Apple store.
 
If with the same websites I don't have any problem, the 1 Gb has nothing to do with the issue .... since I haven't a special edition of the iPad Air

Not necessarily. You both have different selections of programs open, have different installation environments, have had the tablets powered on for different periods of time. All of these things will affect the reloading behavior. The only way to do a proper comparison is to load the exact same image on both tablets, power them on at the same time, and then make the exact same button presses during the test. You have to control for all the variables.
 
There are no different firmware on iPads ....

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Not necessarily. You both have different selections of programs open, have different installation environments, have had the tablets powered on for different periods of time. All of these things will affect the reloading behavior. The only way to do a proper comparison is to load the exact same image on both tablets, power them on at the same time, and then make the exact same button presses during the test. You have to control for all the variables.

If you keep several apps on background while browsing with multiple tabs on a 1 Gb device, well, you are looking for problems dude :rolleyes:

I close all apps except those related with my workload (like Mail , iTranslate or iTunes to listen music) ....
 
While it may be a firmware issue that can be fixed, I have a hard time believing it's a hardware issue. And it's very possible that Apple may have released some iPads with a different firmware. Thing is I've only had my iPad for 10 days so it's brand new so that's why I want to confirm the real truth about this when I go to the Apple store.

Doubtful about the firmware version since replacement iPads have solved the tab reloading issue for some people since last year. Software and firmware can mask or eliminate many hardware design errors and I believe the tab reloading issue is A7 related (memory management).

Let us know what you find running the test on all the display units. I wouldn't be surprised if they all behaved differently.
 
Doubtful about the firmware version since replacement iPads have solved the tab reloading issue for some people since last year. Software and firmware can mask or eliminate many hardware design errors and I believe the tab reloading issue is A7 related (memory management).

Let us know what you find running the test on all the display units. I wouldn't be surprised if they all behaved differently.

You keep claiming this even though it makes no logical sense, and that tab reloading is nothing new with the iPad Air. How about linking a credible source for this claim, because as I've said over and over in this thread, the reason for reloading is well understood from the software side of things. It is EXPECTED behavior in iOS.
 
You keep claiming this even though it makes no logical sense, and that tab reloading is nothing new with the iPad Air. How about linking a credible source for this claim, because as I've said over and over in this thread, the reason for reloading is well understood from the software side of things. It is EXPECTED behavior in iOS.
True. I've had tab reloading in Safari ever since the original iPhone. It just so happened I experienced much less tab reloads on the iPad 4+iOS6 compared to the iPad Air+iOS7 so the frequency of reloads on the Air+iOS7 was quite annoying. That said, it doesn't seem to be so bad now on 7.1.
 
True. I've had tab reloading in Safari ever since the original iPhone. It just so happened I experienced much less tab reloads on the iPad 4+iOS6 compared to the iPad Air+iOS7 so the frequency of reloads on the Air+iOS7 was quite annoying. That said, it doesn't seem to be so bad now on 7.1.

Well thanks for this. I have to say you're not wrong about that. I didn't even notice. My iPhone 4S reloads the tabs each time I click on one. Well I'm new to the iPad seeing as I just got my first one about 10 days ago so I have just been following what the others are saying.
 
I was having tab reloading on my iPad Air while chatting with Amazon Customer Service. REALLY annoying. I had to just stick in the one tab and use my iPhone to look up information the CSR needed. Total joke. Couldn't even switch between two tabs.

It's a real shame the RAM issue is so prevalent, for whatever reason. It's the one serious downer of the iPad Air.
 
I was having tab reloading on my iPad Air while chatting with Amazon Customer Service. REALLY annoying. I had to just stick in the one tab and use my iPhone to look up information the CSR needed. Total joke. Couldn't even switch between two tabs.

It's a real shame the RAM issue is so prevalent, for whatever reason. It's the one serious downer of the iPad Air.

Who actually verified its a ram issue? Couldn't get this to happen on the iPad 4. Only the Air (in terms of iPads) so far but I didn't play around much with the mini retina. The pad 4 and Air both have 1GB of ram.
 
Who actually verified its a ram issue? Couldn't get this to happen on the iPad 4. Only the Air (in terms of iPads) so far but I didn't play around much with the mini retina. The pad 4 and Air both have 1GB of ram.

We don't know for sure it's a RAM issue, but it seems likely with the additional memory overhead of the 64bit CPU in the iPad Air/mini.
 
I was having tab reloading on my iPad Air while chatting with Amazon Customer Service. REALLY annoying. I had to just stick in the one tab and use my iPhone to look up information the CSR needed. Total joke. Couldn't even switch between two tabs.

It's a real shame the RAM issue is so prevalent, for whatever reason. It's the one serious downer of the iPad Air.
yep, amazingly annoying. Yet others will insinuate that you are fibbing.
 
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