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All iPads iPad Air - how severe is the RAM problem?
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I think some people just don't notice/care. For me it's EXTREMELY bothersome. It absolutely interrupts my ability to put the iPad Air's excellent power to good use. It's an utterly worthless web browser if preserving the content of web pages is your intent.
Something seriously wrong with that iPad and it is not ram. Did you try to exchange it? I would poll one million owners and doubt seriously even 1 percent would have problems with two tabs.
I still do think how folks are accessing the internet is more an issue than ram.
There is nothing wrong with my iPad Air. Or my wife's iPad Mini with Retina display that functions the same way.
Apple has replaced iPads and the problem has reduced for many people. If you have tab reloading after 2 tabs, I would say that both your wife's iPad and your iPad have issues and should be replaced if you are able.
As has been pointed out to you repeatedly, it makes absolutely no sense at all for a hardware issue to manifest its self in such a specific fashion. If faulty hardware was the problem then it would be almost certain to cause other more random problems. What is far more likely, is that when people get given new iPads they don't restore them a backup and hence whatever software problem existed before isn't transferred over. I would be amazed if a complete restore and set up as new didn't have the same effect.
Tab reloading is somewhat of a problem on my Air but to nowhere near the extent that it is for you. I just opened 3 other tabs and this reply was still waiting for me when I came back to it. That's pretty typical of my experience with Safari since I installed 7.1. Unless the two pages you were trying to look at where extremely heavy it does appear as though you are hitting a bug somewhere. Have you tried emptying out Safari's cache or doing a complete restore?
Apple should then remove their demo iPads from sale at their stores, since I've repeated this on their devices, too.
You're absolutely right.
Given the right circumstances, I guarantee you have the same issue. I don't just browse text-based web pages. Engadget + Amazon.com and a little browsing in either of those tabs almost guarantees a reload of the other tab. It's just a crock! It's a little better if I don't have ANY apps open in the background, or just after a fresh reboot, but it's ridiculous to have to reboot an iPad to make it browses the web with two tabs. Quite frankly, even on a fresh reboot, if I browse heavily in one of only two tabs open, it ALWAYS reloads the second tab.
Bottom line: I should be able to have two tabs open and be able to swap between them without them reloading. At ANY point, no matter HOW heavy the tab is with graphics etc.
If you are having issues with only 2 tabs, I would bring it back to an Apple store and show them. Make sure you tell them that you did a complete restore and it is still happening.
Ah interesting. William you're right. Amazon and Engadget definitely cause my Air to reload the tabs. I have to go to the Apple store this Friday to pick up my iMac from service. Do you think I should get my Air swapped out? It's just about 14 days since I purchased it. I was able to get the tabs to reload on one of their Air demos when I was there earlier today but not another and strangely enough the iPad 4 had no issues. I had about 6 tabs open on the iPad 4, opened about 5 apps and scrolled up and down on each tab (BTW, these tabs were high in graphic detail such ESPN) and still had no reloading happen.
I just want to be certain if this is something that will have to be accepted. I'm wondering how to go about asking for an exchange. When I spoke to the genius today he said his Air also reloads the tabs. Apple May not see this as defective and may not approve an exchange. What do you think?
As I mentioned in an earlier post, Apple's display units do the same. There's nothing wrong with my iPad.
No, there's no point in exchanging your iPad Air. They all do it, as far as I'm concerned. I'd suggest, if you're still worried, - test out the display units at the Apple Store. You'll see the same tab reloading there. And you're correct - the iPad 4 (at least on iOS 6, since I haven't used one on iOS 7) did not suffer so severely from tab reloading.
If it bothers you, return it. An exchange will not help you, sadly.
Well I opened those two tabs and this forum on Safari, a game, watched video, used the calculator and went back to Safari. Guess what? No problem!
I did not load 7.1 from ITunes.
If Mr Ed was around, he would tell people to stop beating him up and at least give Apple the opportunity of looking at issues folks are having.
I did not load 7.1 from ITunes.
If Mr Ed was around, he would tell people to stop beating him up and at least give Apple the opportunity of looking at issues folks are having.
I've been on 7.1 on my Air now for a few days. The. Safari tabs reload just as they did on 7.0.4 and I even had a respring on the second day.
It even logs me out of this site sometimes when they reload.
If people will remember, iPhones have been reloading tabs for several years now and have people have been complaining. Not sure if this is due to low ram or just the way it is on iOS devices.
It even logs me out of this site sometimes when they reload.
If people will remember, iPhones have been reloading tabs for several years now and have people have been complaining. Not sure if this is due to low ram or just the way it is on iOS devices.
Love to see a video of that. Don't forget to actually scroll down a page a little, you know - as you would in real life.
Here's the thing: IT'S NOT A PROBLEM.
Yes, I too can make my iPad do all kinds of crazy things if I force the issue. It doesn't mean that if I crank the brightness to 100%, turn on every wireless service, and stream Netflix over LTE at full volume that there's a "problem" if I don't get 10 hours of battery life, it just means that because I am taxing the resources it gets LESS life.
Same thing here. Everyone with a "problem" is loading multiple resource heavy pages simultaneously and then pretending that it's some sort of great oversight that they need to reload or in some instances crash.
The iPad is a lot of things, but MOST people don't use it as a desktop replacement, and MOST people don't use it in that manner.
If it was a battery concern like my first example, people would point out that my "problem" was because of my usage, not because there was anything wrong with the battery.
Same thing here. Know how I know that? Because you literally have to go to an internet forum to find the handful of people that have this "problem". It doesn't manifest itself through "normal" use.
If you are unsatisfied with it's performance: RETURN IT. It's really ok. No one is forcing you to use your iPad the way you do.
Most people have no issue. "Most" is the target for Apple, not "All". If they can save $4 a unit and satisfy 99.9% of the users out there, it probably makes far more sense to them than spending the hundreds of millions just to make sure your pages don't reload. Not saying it probably isn't really annoying for the 4 people it does bother, but it is definitely not widespread.
Again, I can say this because it isn't a reported or recognized problem anywhere other than the recesses of the web. Where everything right down to "spontaneous bending" is also a "problem". It's not either, but if you talk to the three people who sat on thei... err... had their phone bend spontaneously, they will tell you about that "design flaw" too, right down to the faulty aluminum that was used.
If you don't want an iPad, don't buy one. If you bought one and don't like it, bring it back. "Problem" solved.
Yes, I too can make my iPad do all kinds of crazy things if I force the issue. It doesn't mean that if I crank the brightness to 100%, turn on every wireless service, and stream Netflix over LTE at full volume that there's a "problem" if I don't get 10 hours of battery life, it just means that because I am taxing the resources it gets LESS life.
Same thing here. Everyone with a "problem" is loading multiple resource heavy pages simultaneously and then pretending that it's some sort of great oversight that they need to reload or in some instances crash.
The iPad is a lot of things, but MOST people don't use it as a desktop replacement, and MOST people don't use it in that manner.
If it was a battery concern like my first example, people would point out that my "problem" was because of my usage, not because there was anything wrong with the battery.
Same thing here. Know how I know that? Because you literally have to go to an internet forum to find the handful of people that have this "problem". It doesn't manifest itself through "normal" use.
If you are unsatisfied with it's performance: RETURN IT. It's really ok. No one is forcing you to use your iPad the way you do.
Most people have no issue. "Most" is the target for Apple, not "All". If they can save $4 a unit and satisfy 99.9% of the users out there, it probably makes far more sense to them than spending the hundreds of millions just to make sure your pages don't reload. Not saying it probably isn't really annoying for the 4 people it does bother, but it is definitely not widespread.
Again, I can say this because it isn't a reported or recognized problem anywhere other than the recesses of the web. Where everything right down to "spontaneous bending" is also a "problem". It's not either, but if you talk to the three people who sat on thei... err... had their phone bend spontaneously, they will tell you about that "design flaw" too, right down to the faulty aluminum that was used.
If you don't want an iPad, don't buy one. If you bought one and don't like it, bring it back. "Problem" solved.
Here's the thing: IT'S NOT A PROBLEM.
Yes, I too can make my iPad do all kinds of crazy things if I force the issue. It doesn't mean that if I crank the brightness to 100%, turn on every wireless service, and stream Netflix over LTE at full volume that there's a "problem" if I don't get 10 hours of battery life, it just means that because I am taxing the resources it gets LESS life.
Same thing here. Everyone with a "problem" is loading multiple resource heavy pages simultaneously and then pretending that it's some sort of great oversight that they need to reload or in some instances crash.
The iPad is a lot of things, but MOST people don't use it as a desktop replacement, and MOST people don't use it in that manner.
If it was a battery concern like my first example, people would point out that my "problem" was because of my usage, not because there was anything wrong with the battery.
Same thing here. Know how I know that? Because you literally have to go to an internet forum to find the handful of people that have this "problem". It doesn't manifest itself through "normal" use.
If you are unsatisfied with it's performance: RETURN IT. It's really ok. No one is forcing you to use your iPad the way you do.
Most people have no issue. "Most" is the target for Apple, not "All". If they can save $4 a unit and satisfy 99.9% of the users out there, it probably makes far more sense to them than spending the hundreds of millions just to make sure your pages don't reload. Not saying it probably isn't really annoying for the 4 people it does bother, but it is definitely not widespread.
Again, I can say this because it isn't a reported or recognized problem anywhere other than the recesses of the web. Where everything right down to "spontaneous bending" is also a "problem". It's not either, but if you talk to the three people who sat on thei... err... had their phone bend spontaneously, they will tell you about that "design flaw" too, right down to the faulty aluminum that was used.
If you don't want an iPad, don't buy one. If you bought one and don't like it, bring it back. "Problem" solved.
You've got valid points. But shouldn't the new generation be better than the previous generation and not worse?
The Air is worse in this department than the 4 it replaces. And more expensive to boot.
I did, no problems. Take it to Apple and stop squawking and get back to your real life.
Well maybe but the thread topic is how severe is the problem. Not enough obviously for Apple to even think about it and for MOST of us not to lose any sleep over it, not severe enough to not want to keep the Ipad air etc. etc.
Itjw pretty much summed it up perfectly if it annoys one enough what they can do.
I surely won't be selling my Air or Retina Mini over this, it's not a big problem.
You asked for it ..
http://youtu.be/dJNS3ucSak4
At home sick as a dog, so I decided to finally take a video of my air, with only safari running, yet experiencing reloads with only two tabs open.
Granted, The example is a bit much, but I have experienced this with much less dynamic sites. For example, a mostly text site like here at macrumors, with only one other tab open and looking for quotes from another mostly text based site - refresh, refresh, refresh, refresh. When I experience it in that situation, I call that severe, Mr. AppleRobert.
My air has not been rebooted since installing 7.1, the day after it was released.
http://youtu.be/dJNS3ucSak4
At home sick as a dog, so I decided to finally take a video of my air, with only safari running, yet experiencing reloads with only two tabs open.
Granted, The example is a bit much, but I have experienced this with much less dynamic sites. For example, a mostly text site like here at macrumors, with only one other tab open and looking for quotes from another mostly text based site - refresh, refresh, refresh, refresh. When I experience it in that situation, I call that severe, Mr. AppleRobert.
My air has not been rebooted since installing 7.1, the day after it was released.
Thanks for that. It's clear to me that some people it just doesn't bother. I can say it bothers me every darn day. That's why I use my Air mostly for just video streaming, the occasional game, and VERY casual web browsing because it's really useless for anything beyond the casual.
William I went to Staples yesterday to try out the iPad Air, iPad mini Retina and iPad 2. I used your recommended sites Amazon and Engadget. All 3 models reloaded the tabs. Some people think this is dedicated to the latest iPads. It's not.
Well after speaking with the Apple genius who also has an Air and is well aware of the tabs reloading I've just come to the understanding that this is the way it is for iOS and I've decided not to bother getting my Air exchanged. The screen is perfectly uniform and zero bad pixels so I'm good with this one.