iPad Continues to Outsell Samsung, Amazon, and Microsoft Tablets Combined

[69Mustang]

And if you read what I said I made it clear nobody needs an iPad, nobody needs any of the consumer products we surround ourselves with. For someone trying to tell me I didn't need an iPad it's incredibly odd that you had to purchase 4 tablets yourself but I didn't 'need' just one.

You're inner monologue is betraying the comprehension centers of your thought process. My quote asks a question. It doesn't say you don't need a tablet. It also says my anecdote isn't indicative of the larger market. You find it odd that I have 4 tablets? I'm a tech gadget fan. If something interests me, I buy it. I buy stuff all the time and need is rarely a consideration in those purchases. Nothing odd about that.

I don't follow you around the forums, so I'm not sure why you think I may have read every post to see if I could find out why you decided to explain your desire to buy products that were of no use to you. I read the top posts and noticed two people commenting on the two points you made, so I clicked to your post and read it before adding my comments. I don't really mind how many tablets you have, but for someone telling others they don't like something they have 4 of I find it interesting that you feel the need to tell everyone else they don't need one at all.

You're making an assumption I don't like tablets. An incorrect assumption. An assumption generated entirely in your head because I have never said I don't like tablets. Didn't do it through implication either. I find it interesting that you have taken my response to another quote out of it's context and built a some sort of social agenda around it. You've attributed intent to my quote that only exists in your head.

I don't 'need' a computer, and neither do you. But you still have one - what's the difference?

The difference is I never attributed need to my ownership of my computers. That ownership lies in the "because I wanted it" category. You on the other hand, are trying to concurrently state "yes, I know we don't need" and "here are the reasons I choose a tablet"

Your big mistake is trying to link 'need' or lack of to the iPad, when you should actually be linking it to every consumer product. By singling out the iPad your argument fails, it just makes you appear to have a dislike of iPads and feel that everyone else should too.

If I was discussing every consumer product in this thread your point might have had a little validity. Since the thread is specifically about the iPad, I chose topical focus instead of making the mistake that you've made: trying to apply commentary on a specific subject in a generalized overarching theme. By singling out the iPad in an iPad thread, my argument sticks to the topic. Can't help the fact that you've misinterpreted pretty much every thing in my post.

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Some of the iOS accessibility functionality makes using an iPad or iPhone easier than a laptop, and they are often cheaper and easier to manage if you have any additional needs.

Be careful with your assumptions, they are a little dangerous. I don't run around preaching accessibility to people as its pointless, and I rarely tell anyone who can't see me that I have a disability, it's none of their business, but I felt the need to tell you that the iPad is easier for me to use, I genuinely couldn't use a laptop or desktop.

Dangerous how? In your own quote you agreed with my assumption.
"And if you read what I said I made it clear nobody needs an iPad..."
"Even so I don't need an iPad"
Dangerous is a bit (a lot actually) hyperbolic. We're in a tech forum... talking about a tablet. Not trying solve all the worlds ills. Perspective and all that.

Should I go without because you don't like tablets?

Is your question retorical? Otherwise it makes no sense. My preferences bare no consideration on your choices. Your personal situation has greatly colored your ability to evaluate what you read. Genuinely sorry about your personal stuff. Nowhere in any of my quotes have I said I don't like tablets. Didn't even imply that I don't like tablets. I did say that I don't use mine as much any more. I also have a Blue Ray player that rarely gets use. Does the lack of use mean I don't like Blue Ray players? No, no it doesn't. Same with tablets.

See, I can word salad too.

 

[Sefstah]

Basically, so can an iPad, whether it is the Pro, Mini or Air. Are there particular apps that you are referring too because quite frankly all the big names are also on iPad. Be a little more specific when you talk about "Pro" apps. Also be careful because some of those "windows" apps may have iOS counterparts that do the exact same thing if not better of the iPad. If you are talking about Microsoft apps, Word, Excel, PowerPoint, One Note and Outlook are all on iPad and based on my experience the iPad versions of a few of them are easier and more capable that their windows counterparts. But then again, Word, Excel and PowerPoint all have their roots in the Mac, since they were all Mac apps first.

What exactly are these "Pro" apps you speak of?

Final Cut Pro X, Logic Pro X and Aperture. I do a lot of video, audio and photo editing on my Mac Pro. Im waiting for the day where I can work seamlessly on the go between an iPad/iOS and OSX. I don't think its fair to call it an iPad Pro until it can at least handle these tasks.
Yes you are absolutely right about Microsoft apps sometimes working better on iOS. And they also let you shift your work on OSX. This is my point exactly. I just wish Apple would do the same with their own apps. Makes you wonder why they dont while MS does.

 

[WinMacLinux]

Shocked that the surface isn't doing better to be honest. Far better use.

The numbers quoted fro the surface are 225% off from the numbers MS released for FY16Q3.
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Basically, so can an iPad, whether it is the Pro, Mini or Air. Are there particular apps that you are referring too because quite frankly all the big names are also on iPad. Be a little more specific when you talk about "Pro" apps. Also be careful because some of those "windows" apps may have iOS counterparts that do the exact same thing if not better of the iPad. If you are talking about Microsoft apps, Word, Excel, PowerPoint, One Note and Outlook are all on iPad and based on my experience the iPad versions of a few of them are easier and more capable that their windows counterparts. But then again, Word, Excel and PowerPoint all have their roots in the Mac, since they were all Mac apps first.

What exactly are these "Pro" apps you speak of?

Python? Bash, git? The ability to have apps read and write files to each other out side of a sandbox.

Pro can mean a lot of things, that's what makes it pro. If all you did was type you could get by with a type writer. Pro has come to mean a device a professional can expect to use and not have the machine get in the way. What you use as a pro isn't my pro, but Pro has to cover us both.

But we would agree if we are both professionals that if we pickup a laptop we can do 100% of the work we need. Similarly with "Pro" tablets. Pro isn't constrained to MS apps. If that were the case then the Surface RT would be pro. Even still, the app versions of OneNote are very limited compared to the full desktop version. It does not handle tags and searching, or handwriting fully. In Word, the app can not handle complex references. The app version of PowerPoint can not handle inserting .eps files.

I could write more, but you know, I have to go pro some stuff.

 

[MillieWales]

You're inner monologue is betraying the comprehension centers of your thought process. My quote asks a question. It doesn't say you don't need a tablet. It also says my anecdote isn't indicative of the larger market. You find it odd that I have 4 tablets? I'm a tech gadget fan. If something interests me, I buy it. I buy stuff all the time and need is rarely a consideration in those purchases. Nothing odd about that.



You're making an assumption I don't like tablets. An incorrect assumption. An assumption generated entirely in your head because I have never said I don't like tablets. Didn't do it through implication either. I find it interesting that you have taken my response to another quote out of it's context and built a some sort of social agenda around it. You've attributed intent to my quote that only exists in your head.


The difference is I never attributed need to my ownership of my computers. That ownership lies in the "because I wanted it" category. You on the other hand, are trying to concurrently state "yes, I know we don't need" and "here are the reasons I choose a tablet"


If I was discussing every consumer product in this thread your point might have had a little validity. Since the thread is specifically about the iPad, I chose topical focus instead of making the mistake that you've made: trying to apply commentary on a specific subject in a generalized overarching theme. By singling out the iPad in an iPad thread, my argument sticks to the topic. Can't help the fact that you've misinterpreted pretty much every thing in my post.




Dangerous how? In your own quote you agreed with my assumption.
"And if you read what I said I made it clear nobody needs an iPad..."
"Even so I don't need an iPad"
Dangerous is a bit (a lot actually) hyperbolic. We're in a tech forum... talking about a tablet. Not trying solve all the worlds ills. Perspective and all that.




Is your question retorical? Otherwise it makes no sense. My preferences bare no consideration on your choices. Your personal situation has greatly colored your ability to evaluate what you read. Genuinely sorry about your personal stuff. Nowhere in any of my quotes have I said I don't like tablets. Didn't even imply that I don't like tablets. I did say that I don't use mine as much any more. I also have a Blue Ray player that rarely gets use. Does the lack of use mean I don't like Blue Ray players? No, no it doesn't. Same with tablets.

See, I can word salad too.

You really put too much thought into that, I'm not quite sure why though, I was simply pointing out something and explaining why iPads are life changing products for many. I guess it boils down to the exact definition and interpretation of the word 'need'.

'Dangerous' was a deliberate word, it doesn't have to mean explosive, game changing etc, again it's down to opinion, 'dangerous to assume' isn't an uncommon turn of phrase, it means it can lead you down the wrong path and provoke reactions that were not necessarily intended.

I'm not sure it matters, in fact it doesn't matter at all. Thanks for the discussion
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Extremely well written and thought out.

The other guy didn't think so apparantly!