iPad Drives Apple to Perch Atop List of Top-Selling PC Manufacturers

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  1. MacRumors macrumors bot


    Apr 12, 2001

    Late last year, research firm Canalys predicted that Apple might become the world's largest PC manufacturer during the fourth quarter of 2011 if tablets were counted alongside more traditional computers. With the major firms now having reported their sales numbers for the quarter, Canalys has pieced together the numbers to confirm that Apple has indeed taken the lead on the strength of the iPad.
    The report notes that tablets such as the iPad accounted for 22% of PC sales during the quarter, with the Amazon Kindle Fire and Barnes & Noble Nook also contributing to the strong tablet performance.


    Based on data from Canalys and other research firms, it appears that the iPad would have been able to top the list even without the help of the Mac, which itself achieved record sales during the quarter. Apple sold 15.43 million iPads during the quarter, with Canalys, Gartner, and IDC all pegging non-tablet market leader HP's shipments between 14.7 and 15.3 million units.

    Whether or not iPads and other tablets should be counted as PCs has become a vigorous debate as observers take differing views on how "personal computers" should be defined. But with Apple making the iPad "PC Free" by eliminating the need to sync to a computer via iTunes and increasing numbers of consumers relying on their iPads for everyday computer functionalities such as browsing, email and music, as well as a broad array of apps, lines between the two types of devices are becoming increasingly blurred.

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  2. adcx64 macrumors 65816


    Nov 17, 2008
  3. *LTD* macrumors G4


    Feb 5, 2009
    Change is in the air, folks. And it's got an Apple logo on it. Again.

    Canalys and DisplaySearch already count the iPad in PC numbers. Only a matter of time before Gartner, IDC and the rest do the same.


    IDC up next.

  4. tommy060289 macrumors regular

    Jun 20, 2011
    An iPad is a PC as much as a hammer is a screwdriver!
  5. Meandmunch macrumors 6502

    Jan 3, 2002
    Whats the speculated ETA on an iPad 3 announcement?

    Late February?
  6. rei101 macrumors 6502a

    Dec 24, 2011
    If you take tablets away, Apple for sure would rank the lowest.

    Mac Pros are more a forgotten hobbie today than the Apple TV itself.
  7. *LTD* macrumors G4


    Feb 5, 2009
    The industry NEEDS the iPad.

  8. Mad-B-One macrumors 6502a


    Jun 24, 2011
    Southern Plains
    PC in decline?

    "Excluding pads, the client PC market declined 0.4%." That sounds more like market saturation than the end of the PC. Glad to see that. I also agree that they are not the same - but so aren't PC to Laptop to Netbook. They all have andvantages and disadvantages - or their niche. Funny thing is - I have all of them and the only one which is truely replaced by the iPad is my Netbook. Anyone interested buying it? :D
  9. Skika macrumors 68030

    Mar 11, 2009
    Personal Computer=PC

    And there is no better PC(Personal Computer) than the iPad.

    Deal with it.
  10. *LTD* macrumors G4


    Feb 5, 2009
    People need to check their preconceptions about what a "PC" is at the door. We're living in an age of redefinitions and substantial market shifts.
  11. dashiel macrumors 6502a

    Nov 12, 2003
    Nope, not even close actually when you take in to account all the tiny no-name brands. Without the iPad Apple is third behind HP and Dell.


    Define personal computer.
  12. Padraig macrumors 6502a

    Dec 12, 2005
    As someone on Engadget commented....

    McDonalds is the largest PC manufacturer if you include Big Macs.

    Honestly, Apple do well enough without having to pad their numbers.
  13. dgree03 macrumors 65816


    Jan 8, 2009
    I think the confusion comes from the fact that the iPad even after it became "PC Free" is still far more limited than even the lowest laptop "category" (Netbooks)

    I think the definition of a tablet should fall heavily on the OS it runs first and then followed by the hardware it is used on.
  14. jamesryanbell macrumors 68020


    Mar 17, 2009
    I don't want to agree, but if I'm honest with myself, I have to.

    iPad is a stand alone personal computer. Period.
  15. linux2mac macrumors 65816


    Aug 29, 2009
    "City of Lakes", MN
    What is going on here? Waiting for the Android folks to offer explanations. This can't be true. Windows and Android are not bags of malware, have stable and robust OS, and perfect in design. Anyone? Hello? :rolleyes:

    Edit: Spoke too soon. Looks like they are already trickling in to correct us Apple folks on our misunderstanding of Apple's superior products and success.
  16. sparks05 macrumors member

    Aug 18, 2011
    Ummm? Where have you been? Don't you know that Macs are the only computers with increasing market share? Every single other brand has declining market share . . . and fast.

    And did you know that Apple had record sales for its Apple TV last quarter, making up half of its entire Apple TV sales for the entire year?
  17. FrankieTDouglas macrumors 65816

    Mar 10, 2005
    Which industry are you referring to? Because the people who need Mac Pros, certainly won't be able to replace what those systems do with these little tablet toys.
  18. gnasher729 macrumors P6


    Nov 25, 2005
    In the last quarter, Apple sold 5.6% of all PCs world wide. That's the number of PCs sold; if you count revenue then Apple's share is substantially higher. If you count profit then Apple's share is about at the top :D

    5.6% would have been enough to get into the top five in most of the last fifteen years; in some years it would have made number 3. Currently it doesn't, mostly because there is more concentration of sales at the top, and because the number 5 ASUS is taking huge numbers of sales away from the number 4 Acer (so the company that Apple will overtake to become #5 in world wide unit sales is most likely not ASUS but Acer, if the trend continues).
  19. Lesser Evets macrumors 68040

    Lesser Evets

    Jan 7, 2006
    Here comes the big argument. It's boiling over every time an article like this is on the front page: the tablet is not a PC.

    The tablet wirelessly hooks to a keyboard, it hooks to storage devices, it allows document creation and swapping, it up/down loads pictures/video/audio/etc. It plays games, it runs applications, blah blah.

    It's a PC. Get over it. If it isn't a PC in your mind now, it will be with iPad3 or iPad4 or iPad5, and the only real change will be autonomous nature of the iPad which disconnects it from another computer. It's already as powerful as iBooks from the early 2000s, which weren't really PCs either by stunted logic.

    Go back to English class. Get a real simile.
  20. coder12, Jan 31, 2012
    Last edited: Jan 31, 2012

    coder12 macrumors 6502a


    Jun 28, 2010
    I have a hammer with a screwdriver in it :)

    Also, to see a picture of my hammer/screwdriver, click here:
  21. Andronicus macrumors 6502a

    Apr 1, 2008
    In the words of Sam Cooke, "a change is gonna come…"
  22. dgree03 macrumors 65816


    Jan 8, 2009
    Wow, you are wrong. Again back to my original argument, I can "theoretically" get more work on on a early 2000's ibook than I can on an iPad 2 or 3 or 4 or 5.

    What is really holding back the iPad is the software!
  23. pgiguere1 macrumors 68020


    May 28, 2009
    Montreal, Canada
    Even if you don't want to count tablets as PCs now, it's only a matter of time before everybody does.

    Windows 8 will blur the line between a laptop and a tablet and statistics will have no choice but to include iPads as well to remain fair to all tablet manufacturers.
  24. griz macrumors 6502a

    Dec 18, 2003
    New London, NH
    Tablets are computers. How many times have you heard the term Tablet Computing or Tablet PC? The companies that don't see the future of computing as the tablet have their head buried in the sand. Ignoring what is coming for them is not going to prevent it.
    Microsoft and the hardware vendors made their success on putting PCs into people's hands for doing simple everyday tasks at a low price. The tablet can do all of that and at a better price with portability. They are getting to be more powerful. In fact they are more powerful than most PCs were just 5 years ago. If Apple can find a way to put even more power into the iPad, merge the portability of iPad and iOS with the desktop apps of MacOS, they will bury the competition (In their own confusion).
  25. Peace macrumors Core


    Apr 1, 2005
    Space--The ONLY Frontier
    Tell me specifically what you can get done on an "early 2000's" iBook that can't be done with an iPad ?

    And puhleezz. Lets leave the cd-rom out of the equation. Everybody knows that's so yesterday.

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