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iPad iOS needs a Serious Overhaul!

Should iPad have its own OS?

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They're going to keep focusing on iOS for iPhones until the "anniversary" iPhone next year (let's be honest, that's their priority). Once that's released, they'll focus more on the iPad features, likely in 2018 for iOS 12 and the redesigned OLED iPad.
 
I don't think iPad should have its own iOS. That would just further complicate devices. But I do think apple should offer two versions of iPad one being with iOS installed and the other being MacOS.

iPad Pro should have MacOS installed and they could have kept the iPad Air line for iOS.
 
nia820 said:
I don't think iPad should have its own iOS. That would just further complicate devices. But I do think apple should offer two versions of iPad one being with iOS installed and the other being MacOS.

iPad Pro should have MacOS installed and they could have kept the iPad Air line for iOS.
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The macOs iPad would not be able to run any iOS apps nor any Mac apps due to the ARM infrastructure....
 
The problem is that iPad sales have been declining for a long time, so Apple isn't nearly as focused on them as they are for the iPhone. The iPhone is Apple's number one priority. The iPad is pretty much just an afterthought at this point.
 
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maflynn said:
On the iPad specific stuff, the OP directed the topic to iPad centric, and I'm curious to know what's lacking for that form factor (Aside from lack of excitement).
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I think the issue is that when the iPad first came out. There was radical innovation in how we interface with computing. Using touch on a larger display.

The way the apps were presented were intuitive.

But since then there hasn't been any improvements to this. They've stopped there.

Apple should be further improving how we interface with the OS. Helping us complete tasks faster than on the computer.

iOS for iPad isn't smart. It's a dumb OS compared to what is possible.

There is so much data it isn't taking advantage of.

I want to see Apple go deeper down the rabbit hole of how we interface with the tablet.

There needs to be more innovation here.

iMessage is cool and stuff but it doesn't help me complete tasks faster.

So it needs fundamental improvements in increasing productivity, power tools and saving time doing tasks.
 
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Apple supposedly has let the Mac line stagnate so that it can push forward expensive iPad Pro's as the "future" - so it is time that they upped their game to make iOS more iPad friendly.
 
mtneer said:
Apple supposedly has let the Mac line stagnate so that it can push forward expensive iPad Pro's as the "future"
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HIGHLY doubtful.
While I agree the Mac line hasn't been shown the attention it probably should be getting, there's no conspiracy to purposefully stagnate Macs to promote iPads.
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Channan said:
Yeah, pretty much.
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At this point, I'd have to agree.

Having said that, all I see is the public face in available products. I have no idea how much internal attention Apple is giving Macs - maybe there's huge R&D dollars and resources going into figuring out what the 'next big thing' for the macOS line is and it's just not showing up yet - it's possible.
 
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I actually find iOS on iPad generally more pleasant to use than on the iPhone. That said, there's lot of stuff that is clearly phone oriented and it shouldn't be like that.
 
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I'm not looking for revolutionary changes to iOS that are optimized for the iPad. I'd be happy with consistent, slow, and steady improvements and refinements... not requiring a major point release timeframe would be preferred.

But considering that iOS 10 is little more than Emojipalooza, I'm not very hopeful.
 
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kasakka said:
I actually find iOS on iPad generally more pleasant to use than on the iPhone. That said, there's lot of stuff that is clearly phone oriented and it shouldn't be like that.
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It's not that iOS is unpleasant to use on an iPad. The problem is, as you just said, there are too many elements that were designed for the iPhone and then just blown up for the iPad. Apple is doing that instead of finding creative ways to use all the extra space on an iPad.

I don't want my iPad to feel like a giant iPhone, even if they're both capable of the same things. I want my iPad to feel like a whole other product.
 
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M. Gustave said:
That is an utterly ridiculous assertion. iPad sales exceeds Macs by a wide margin. Is the Mac just an "afterthought" too?
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They stopped calling apple computer for a reason. I would say the attention give to MBP and Mac Pro seems pretty perfunctuary
 
First of all they should get rid of all those little "Animations" that artificially slow down my workflow. (Yes... please upgrade to new hardware because its clearly hardware. Not it is not Liars!)
 
sdz said:
First of all they should get rid of all those little "Animations" that artificially slow down my workflow. (Yes... please upgrade to new hardware because its clearly hardware. Not it is not Liars!)
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iOS 10 helps with that a ton.
 
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bensisko said:
Eh. I disagree - I think Siri was the main focus, but iMessage received a lot more attention than it deserved.
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Even the iMessage improvements in ios10 really don't amount to much, all things considered. Not that iMessage was screaming for improvements.

Apple could have put a team on the iPad side w/o too much expense or resources and certainly not derailing the iPhone stuff. But the lack of new features this year means another year of waiting.
 
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Honestly, part of the thing I like about iOS is how similar it is in form and function across devices. It makes for a more seamless experience from mobile to "laptop" when going from my iPhone to iPad Pro. Split screen and PiP for video are pretty decent differentiators between iPhone and iPad experiences; what more do you really want or need? Apps in windows? At that point you start getting into MacBook territory, which admittedly Apple may be considering, but probably not yet.

I love the iOS experience on the big screen, and though I'm not ready to give up my iMac yet, my iPP has been a perfect laptop replacement for me. My poor rMBP sits mostly unused nowadays.
 
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it's not similar enough with iOS for iPhone!

where's the weather app? where's my flashlight? compass? calculator?


when I come home I love to put my iPhone 6S down and use my iPad. But the hardware design is a generation behind, the power button is still on the top. The processor is worse (iPad mini4), and I don't have the same features as on my iPhone. Half of the developers don't feel inclined to create a decent iPad version of there app (retarded whatsapp, hello snapchat).

Wasn't it phil Schiller that said something along the lines like 'if you can't work with your iPhone, move to your iPad"..but it does LESS! that's my problem with iPad!
 
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ZombiePete said:
Honestly, part of the thing I like about iOS is how similar it is in form and function across devices. It makes for a more seamless experience from mobile to "laptop" when going from my iPhone to iPad Pro. Split screen and PiP for video are pretty decent differentiators between iPhone and iPad experiences; what more do you really want or need? Apps in windows? At that point you start getting into MacBook territory, which admittedly Apple may be considering, but probably not yet.

I love the iOS experience on the big screen, and though I'm not ready to give up my iMac yet, my iPP has been a perfect laptop replacement for me. My poor rMBP sits mostly unused nowadays.
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It's not necessarily bad that it's so similar. It's that a lot of things are just blown up because nobody put any thought into how it should work on a larger screen.

Take Control Center on iOS 10 for example. Why are there "cards" that you have to swipe between when everything in Control Center would fit just fine on one page? Especially when it all fits on iOS 9. CC takes up about 1/3 of the screen in portrait on the iPad, but it causes the rest of the screen to be wasted space, and I still have to swipe left to skip to the next song. Why can't the cards stack up and down on an iPad where there is so much more room?
 
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mr.bee said:
it's not similar enough with iOS for iPhone!

where's the weather app? where's my flashlight? compass? calculator?
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There are plenty of weather and calculator apps on the App Store; would you really use your iPad as a flashlight or compass?

when I come home I love to put my iPhone 6S down and use my iPad. But the hardware design is a generation behind, the power button is still on the top. The processor is worse (iPad mini4), and I don't have the same features as on my iPhone. Half of the developers don't feel inclined to create a decent iPad version of there app (retarded whatsapp, hello snapchat).
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The hardware on my iPad Pro is top of the line as far as I can tell; the only real drawback versus my phone is the 1st gen Touch ID sensor, but it's not detrimental to my experience personally. As far as apps go, that's not really Apple's fault but I will say that the iPad has a far better selection of tablet-optimized apps than the competition.

EDIT: I guess Force Touch isn't on the iPad yet either, but I'm not convinced that it's a feature that would dramatically improve the user experience on such a big screen.

Wasn't it phil Schiller that said something along the lines like 'if you can't work with your iPhone, move to your iPad"..but it does LESS! that's my problem with iPad!
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I just can't sympathize with this sentiment really. I've never pulled out my iPP and felt like it was a worse experience than my iPhone.
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Channan said:
It's not necessarily bad that it's so similar. It's that a lot of things are just blown up because nobody put any thought into how it should work on a larger screen.

Take Control Center on iOS 10 for example. Why are there "cards" that you have to swipe between when everything in Control Center would fit just fine on one page? Especially when it all fits on iOS 9. CC takes up about 1/3 of the screen in portrait on the iPad, but it causes the rest of the screen to be wasted space, and I still have to swipe left to skip to the next song. Why can't the cards stack up and down on an iPad where there is so much more room?
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I haven't used iOS 10 yet at all so I can't speak to that particular issue. I'm confident though that over time Apple will optimize things to make it a more appropriate experience for the big screen devices. Split screen and PiP demonstrate, IMO, that Apple recognizes that there are optimization options that can make iOS work better on a tablet; hopefully they'll continue on that path as things mature.
 
Andres Cantu said:
They're going to keep focusing on iOS for iPhones until the "anniversary" iPhone next year (let's be honest, that's their priority). Once that's released, they'll focus more on the iPad features, likely in 2018 for iOS 12 and the redesigned OLED iPad.
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Are they really that strapped for resources that they can't create new, improved software for all their products? How many people work for Apple at present?
 
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