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I am not impressed at all.

iPad is not unvaliable at Greece and shops have no idea when Apple will release it. So I would say that ipad has a long way to go before it can approve that is available everywhere.

I am surprised to hear to say this is the case in Greece. Are there many European countries in the same position? I can't imagine it is Apple delaying where they don't have to unless there are problems with contracts related to phone carriers but I could be wrong.
 
I live in a pretty remote place with an iPad and many Apple products. As much as I love using their stuff good luck getting service on Pitcairn island. It is bad enough when things break here (which is more often than not in tropical climates) that I have to go to another country for service.

Ok, you have my curiosity turned on ... where are you? Obviously somewhere that has heard of that con man Dr. Phil. :D


p.s. The answer is A.C. ;)
 
A friend of mine corresponded briefly with Andrew Christian a couple years ago, researching Wikitravel's article about Pitcairn, which he graciously contributed photos for. I'm not surprised he'd get an iPad. :) Pitcairn is a fascinating place, which I've love to visit someday... though despite my fondness for remote places, I can't imagine living there myself.
 
where and how to purchase a us-english mac

since over 3 years I have been trying to buy a
mac with an english keyboard

I live in belize which is a former britsh colony
the official language is english
unfortunately belize is all surrounded by spanish speaking countries

when searching the apple site for belize the site turns to spanish which is wrong
I have sent so many messages to apple about this error
and how to get apple products here in belize without success

in belize an apple is still a fruit so there are no mac dealers in belize
nor are there any mc donalds, buger kings, wlamarts or any other chains here

the funniest thing is - I used to work in an apple center somewhere in europe
I'm using OSX86 which is rather sad

us mac dealers can't handle overseas requests
they won't even supply US shipping companies
I wonder where they buy their computers
any ideas where and how to purchase a us-english mac ...
 
In defense of the poster you are attacking, the atrocities that happened on Pitcairn were not just found out a day ago. Anyone who has followed recent news would know about the trials and the history of child molestation that goes back generations. It's actually common knowledge if you bother to read the news.

Some of the men were handed light sentences because they weren't able to keep them locked up. It would have affected the systems they developed on the island. With so few people living there, you can't just lock up people even if they are guilty because everyone has a function to fill. Some of the men accused of the crimes against adolescent girls were the ones who knew how to operate the boats that allowed them to get out to fish and pickup supplies from passing ships. If they locked up those men, the whole island would suffer.

I'm sure there are good people (the victims) who live there, but there are also a lot of scumbags who thought it was within their right to do what they did. I guess that island life is different than here in civilization. Anyway, I think it's funny how some of you rush to defend those on the island because you think it's cool that they have an iPad.

People who are giving a negative rating to this thread know about the truth of what happened on the island. It's going to take years to clear the controversy, not news of them getting an iPad.

The island is not like Hawaii or other tropical locals. It's very remote and pretty hostile compared to other islands. That's why the mutinous crew of the Bounty chose it for their home and to live out their lives in hiding. You really should read about the history because it's very interesting... even if some of it is disturbing. There's been a lot of trouble in paradise, but at least they have an iPad now.

You're correct that I don't take in enough news and that I jumped to the conclusion that he hadn't heard of them until this story.

REGARDLESS

He categorized everyone there as scum based on the sins of a few. I am CERTAINLY not going to defend those who were convicted of such hideous crimes, and certainly not, as you suggest, because he has a cool iPad.

I'm not rushing to defend him because he has an iPad. I'm defending him because there's no evidence that he committed the same crimes that others on the island did, yet he's being grouped in with them.

It's a crime and absolutely ignorant to define groups of people by the worst of their kind. It's the same school of thought that says Muslims are killers, black people are thugs, gays are pedophiles. To say the people of that island are scum because some committed crimes is unfair.

Furthermore, we have people on this board digging up stuff on Andrew and trying to find dirty laundry to air.

It's absurd how people will judge others just to make them feel better about themselves.
 
They have a wide variety of fruits that grow all year round, get a lot of exercise, have fresh seafood everyday, and have great weather.

We have hormone injected foods, get very little exercise (most), breathe lovely smog air and are forced to work for living.

And we wonder where all this cancer is coming from, but at least we have fast internet! :rolleyes:

Doesn't look like there is a whole lot of exercise going on...

(taken from the July sample newsletter at http://www.miscellany.pn)
 

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I am surprised to hear to say this is the case in Greece. Are there many European countries in the same position? I can't imagine it is Apple delaying where they don't have to unless there are problems with contracts related to phone carriers but I could be wrong.

In many countries there are no carrier locks/subsidies, you buy a device outright and stick whatever SIM you want into it.

Still no iPad in Norway, maybe November. Maybe.
 
I'm glad I've more to worry about than the content of the free news site I visit. I presume you'll be donating to the site very shortly? There's really very little point complaining about the articles - posted to drive traffic, and thus advertising revenue, in lieu of any other form of income - if you won't donate.

Would be a little hypocritical, no?

Dude, I understand where you're coming from but I seriously think that the traffic which drives advertising revenue would start dropping if MR became known as the Apple "human interest" site. Works both ways. So sure, run the story, but put it on page 2 where it belongs.
 
Perhaps the most interesting question is this:

How do they earn money and in what currency is it?

It seems they're self-sufficient in terms of farming, but I can't really see how they'd earn money to pay for goods and services. With only 2GB of monthly allowance I can't see any of them having an Internet based business. Are they selling something that you can't get anywhere else to the mainland?
 
Aspiring Grammar Nazi

Hi. Aspiring Grammar Nazi here. Shouldn't it be "Furthest Reaches of the Earth" instead of "Farthest"?
 
Hi. Aspiring Grammar Nazi here. Shouldn't it be "Furthest Reaches of the Earth" instead of "Farthest"?

It could possibly go either way. Farther is in reference to actual physical distance, and further references intangible or conceptual distance, e.g. "Nothing could be further than the truth."

Being that "the farthest reaches of the earth" could be physically measured or used as a concept, both ways could possibly be argued for. I'd tend to use "farthest" though.

Regards,
Reichsfuhrer-SS of Grammar
 
It could possibly go either way. Farther is in reference to actual physical distance, and further references intangible or conceptual distance, e.g. "Nothing could be further than the truth."

Being that "the farthest reaches of the earth" could be physically measured or used as a concept, both ways could possibly be argued for. I'd tend to use "farthest" though.

Regards,
Reichsfuhrer-SS of Grammar

Thanks! Like I said, I'm still just aspiring.
 
Pitcairn

Pitcairn is hot in the Netherlands :D

In holland there is a television show called "3 op reis" (Station 3 on travel).
In this show a girl is traveling the world. I believe she has seen around 150 countries or so.
This year she is making a trip around some remote islands.
First island: Pitcairn.

Although in dutch it is very interesting to see.
There are a couple of shows.

http://www.tvopjepc.nl/programma/1160
 
Sounds like an awesome place to live.

Only thing I might do differently is NOT have an ipad or mac, so I could not be tempted to use the internet and pretend like the world is an idyllic and peaceful place with all normal people.
 
OK, I've actually been to the island on two occasions. I used to work on various cruise ships and two of the ships I worked on passed the island during pacific voyages.

I think I'd like to live their for a while, seems cool! Might actually check out how to get there.

Very little choice - by boat. There's no airfield!


Perhaps the most interesting question is this:

How do they earn money and in what currency is it?

It seems they're self-sufficient in terms of farming, but I can't really see how they'd earn money to pay for goods and services. With only 2GB of monthly allowance I can't see any of them having an Internet based business. Are they selling something that you can't get anywhere else to the mainland?


From what I remember I paid for things in British Pounds sterling, but I'm sure I remember US$ and Euros being handed around too. As NZ is the nearest main place I'm sure the islanders would have accepted NZ dollars from us if we had them at the time.

Regarding the 2Gb monthly internet allowance, how many of us were happily living off that just 5 years ago? Probably quite a lot, it's just that technological pace of change is so fast that we forget such facts. Just think, 5 years ago we were all still limited to voice calls and texting/SMS on a mobile phone and now look what we can do? For a place that is literally in the middle of no-where and is only inhabited due a bizarre twist in history, I think it is a remarkable sign of how modern communication systems can link the whole world together. The ships run satellite internet on-board. It's pretty slow and unreliable at times but I still think it's amazing to be crossing the World's oceans and be in easy contact with home. We used to get no signal in the fjords (NZ and Norway) because the fjord walls (which go virtually vertically up for 100's of metres) blocked the satellite signal and in the Arctic and Antarctic because the angle to the satellite was too shallow to get a signal.

If you draw a line between the Panama canal and NZ, Pitcairn is roughly in the middle of the path. Cargo ships pass by as result of this and cruise ships make it part of their itinerary too. Quite a few cruise ships on world cruises will pass by between Jan-May. Pitcairn will know the cruise ship itinerary's and phone/email in requests for items to bring to the island (we did deliver something for them, but I can't remember what it was!)

I have some shots of the island on a hard drive somewhere so I'll dig that out of the archives. I'll also try and post some video I have, but I need to get it off a DVD first.

Trade with any passing ships will certainly be a big thing - honey, wood work, stamps etc. I posted postcards back to my M+D, brother, sister and a couple of friends and 4 out of the 5 postcards arrived! The islanders come onto the ships and set up stalls for people to purchase produce from and they also have stalls set up on the island outside the post office for when the ship passengers walk around. You can see tractors in the sheds, farming helps provide food.

The island is hot, tropical and very small. The sea water is totally clear, the sky at night must be an astronomers dream! The islanders were very welcoming and friendly. An amazing place to visit, but I sure as hell couldn't live there. The islanders however, love it. They said it is quite common for some of them to leave at some point in their lives and go to the mainland, but they often return at some point later having missed the way of life. I guess it demonstrates how few of all the modern ways of life we take for granted are actually essential for a happy existence.

As for the incest incidences the island has had in recent years. It is incredibly unfortunate, and the crimes that happened are unforgivable. However, all of our own local communities have criminals, but when we have such heinous crimes committed on our own doorstep we don't condemn the whole community as being of the same ilk. Have some respect for others that are totally innocent and don't brand the whole island.
 

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