Unless it's on par with a Wacom tablet it's not going to appeal to them. Same thing goes for music.
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Unless it's on par with a Wacom tablet it's not going to appeal to them. Same thing goes for music.
Every day if I could.
I don't know about that - my $250 Acer Aspire 1 is still going strong whereas the $1500 MacBook Pro died a sad, pathetic death, 30 days after the Applecare expired. I don't ask it to do a lot, but it is still doing what I ask of it. (run my scanner & BOINC on the side.)
I use my netbook when I travel to do all of the things that my iPad 2 can't do - like download files.
I don't know about that - my $250 Acer Aspire 1 is still going strong whereas the $1500 MacBook Pro died a sad, pathetic death, 30 days after the Applecare expired. I don't ask it to do a lot, but it is still doing what I ask of it. (run my scanner & BOINC on the side.)
I use my netbook when I travel to do all of the things that my iPad 2 can't do - like download files.
Enough? You? What's that got to do with anything?
I am just stating the obvious. Your figures are meaningless as you don't actually say what they relate to. And the use of incomprehensible sentences like "I smell the hypocrite apologist and the uselessness of arguing" also don't help your case.
"Ipads have no relevant competitor" - I think google and samsung might argue that point.
And you don't even say what you think they are useless? If you are a heavy content creator then yes they are not for you. But guess what 90% of people are not and don't need a laptop at all. Just something to surf the web and play the occasional game. write and print a letter and the Killer app for most people FaceTime and Skype. Your argument is pointless because a tablet is not a laptop or desktop. It's not even 'just a big iPhone'. And most important they are actually used daily or even hourly by people because they are portable, where desktops are left collecting dust. The second I showed my parents a tablet could do the same as their big box Dell FOR THEIR NEEDS, the Dell got mothballed.
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Agree of course regarding the Wacom, I don't think that will be an issue. Apple has a number of very cool pen patents over the past few years.
http://www.patentlyapple.com/.services/blog/6a0120a5580826970c0120a5580ebf970c/search?filter.q=pen
Potentially this could mean that they could be operated on screen or off just on a table or a paper or something. Would be great for Some designers. I have to Lug my Wacom round to companies when I am working. This could just be a Standalone pen that will automatically work with an iOS or OSX - No Electronic pad needed at all.
Queue the backlash "I thought a finger was the best pointer, blah blah"
Musicians are already using them as beat controllers, mixers and have been for a few years. Especially with 3rd party Keyboards and other tools. And of course innovate music creation apps. A lot of these are used in full music production now. So a Big Screen will be a big selling point.
http://www.techradar.com/news/mobil...d-music-production-best-apps-and-gear-1296519
The interesting this here is while there are many good android music making apps. There are hardly any Pads, keyboard or other music devices for them - This is of course due to fragmentation and sales potential. It's like the Atari ST in the 90s. That was the go-to computer in music production because it had built in MIDI.
Also off the top of my head other potential pro uses...
Animation controllers
Video editing Shuttles
Photoshop / Illustrator ( well any app really ) Tool selectors
More word processing space.
Warehouse management control
Factory machine control and programming
TV and film on set playback
Samsung has already lied (determined in court) about their sales. IDC was massively wrong about their real sales. So, IDC numbers are very iffy for most named competitors. Only Apple gives them real number. So, you get real numbers against imaginary numbers.
Considering, overall tablet market is sliding, and very cheap tablets are growing (those thing barely last 1 year if your lucky), I'd say nobody's stealing anything. People don't buy an Apple tablet every year (or even 3 years). These things are durable and the replacement cycle if very long.
People will only buy a tablet again if it breaks, or if Apple makes a new one get a leg up from better integration with the ecosystem, or new useful functionality that can't be copied easily by the competition (like haptic and force touch).
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I would think operating the pen on the screen is far more practical than just a table because you can see where the lines are going in contrast to the old school wacom digitizer of looking directly at the monitor while drawing which takes a bit getting used to, much similar to using a trackpad to mouse around.
Still, it may be good for writing signatures, but when it comes to actual detail digital illustration work, doing it on a touchscreen makes more sense.
Here's an example of digital illustration done on a Wacom tablet by Jason Chan: http://www.jasonchanart.com
I'm pretty sure he uses a top of the line Cintiq, but I digress.
There have been other pen-styled products that uses paper to draw on and capturing the image in real time. Wacom tried that with their ink-based stylus a couple years back. They almost got it right. Almost. There was another company which I forget the name of that allows the artist to put paper on the tablet ( no screen ) with a pen. When the drawing was done, it was stored in the device's memory until it's exported out to the desktop for further manipulation or sharing.
I still rely on my Intuos4 and it gets the job done. Although, I would rather get the Surface since it's a cheaper alternative to the Cintiq with versatility.
So if Apple were going to release a stylus, it would have to be used on screen for iOS devices. Feels far more natural.
in contrast to Apple NOT giving real numbers on Apple Watch sales? So Samsung isn't the only liar here then.
I agree. But the consensus on this forum seems to be 'iPad is failing... Make it more like a Surface' as if Microsoft is suddenly King of the tablet world.
The difference obviously is Apple isn't lying about them, they're being deliberately vague.
To be honest, I think they wanted to cover themselves in case initial sales weren't good and now they're bursting to say that sales have been fantastic, but can't.
You have a point there. I suspect they may reveal numbers by September when the next keynote occurs.
A tablet did replace my laptop, it was just a Surface Pro 3.
iPad's are the perfect portable consumer device, described by Jobs as a "consumer appliance".
Maybe one day Apple will release a tablet for the Professional/Portable quadrant, and all that post-pc talk will make sense. It will require more than a bigger screen.
Until then, it's Windows. I'm running ZBrush with millions of polygons, Unity for game development, and Photoshop with big files, all with stellar performance. It's some seriously advanced software for a tablet.
I hope it inspires Apple to make a Mac tablet or iPad Pro (not +), but it won't happen anytime soon.
Just sold Cintiq 24hd Touch on Monday, because I actually preferred the Surface. The screen is better (much more clarity) and there are Photoshop features specific to Surface (palm rejection & more multi touch gestures). The aluminum pen feels better in hand, although Cintiq is slightly more sensitive.
You can use some freeware called RadialMenu to make custom hotkeys on the side that work simultaneous with pen. I'm sure the physical buttons of the Cintiq Companion are a bit better, or at least don't take up screen space, but I just don't trust Wacom to make a computer
Just sold Cintiq 24hd Touch on Monday, because I actually preferred the Surface. The screen is better (much more clarity) and there are Photoshop features specific to Surface (palm rejection & more multi touch gestures). The aluminum pen feels better in hand, although Cintiq is slightly more sensitive.
You can use some freeware called RadialMenu to make custom hotkeys on the side that work simultaneous with pen. I'm sure the physical buttons of the Cintiq Companion are a bit better, I just didn't trust Wacom to make a computer
Awesome! The palm rejection was one of the biggest reasons I like about the Surface. I'm confident this is the right device to use for serious digital illustration work on the go. Just a matter of trying to get financing to get one. Not sure if MS offers a card like Apple does but who knows?
What you described is exactly why Surface is ideal. Apple really screwed up badly in this one.
Sure I mean both on screen and off. The pen could then be used as an iPad and Mac input device.
Sure painting is a lot easier if it's on screen but for 3d work or video - as a mouse replacement - it's a lot easier and natural to have the work screen vertical and pen in hand.
The patent and device here would be pen only taking the expensive pressure layer off the pad or screen. The only problem bring that the pen would have to powered unlike the super light Wacom pens.
Just for reference, Photoshop offers palm rejection, but no touch painting (who cares with a pen...) And some apps like Sketchbook Pro and ArtRage don't offer palm rejection on Surface yet (Sketchbook for Windows Tablet does, but has less features)
There are definitely artists getting professional results on iPad with Procreate. I just wasn't one of them. Tried it extensively, with all the 3rd party pens, etc. You can also do so much more with the matured power tools in Photoshop, and that reflected in my results.
But I also do ZBrush, screen print, game dev, web dev... so it's pretty obvious for me. If you only do 2d, and prefer simplicity over features, Procreate may be ideal if Apple releases a proper pen.
Yeah. Mostly I've been using Manga Studio as my tool of choice for digital illustration along with Mischief and SB Pro. And some Photoshop. But MS is my main thing for using toners and inking. Most of my files get exported to PDF or psd when needed via dropbox to clientele. It's handy for storyboards if need be.
Procreate isn't bad at all though. Just cumbersome to some degree.
Nice try, no one is using the 16 gb iPad Air as their primary device. Most people would opt for at least 64 GB which is $659 or $128 769.
Once you start getting up there why not spend the little and get a Macbook Air or Macbook Pro for $1,099.00 or $1200 respectively. Especially since it is far more useful.
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I have a 64GB ipad air 2 and that was £390..so no they aren't all that high in price
In what way is it more useful?
It certainly isn't for £500 extra..not even close
To me I have a 12.2 note and it's a pain just using it just to check things so an ipad is the far better option
I respect that opinion. My issue is that you are still presenting your opinion as hard fact and it doesn't work that way.
Just sold Cintiq 24hd Touch on Monday, because I actually preferred the Surface. The screen is better (much more clarity) and there are Photoshop features specific to Surface (palm rejection & more multi touch gestures). The aluminum pen feels better in hand, although Cintiq is slightly more sensitive.
You can use some freeware called RadialMenu to make custom hotkeys on the side that work simultaneous with pen. I'm sure the physical buttons of the Cintiq Companion are a bit better, or at least don't take up screen space, but I just don't trust Wacom to make a computer
Is that the Surface or Surface Pro? The Atom chips (however they've rebranded them) in the low-end Surface do not inspire visions of capable computing, despite the reviews that seem to be out there in the press.
Surface Pro 3 w/ i7 and HD5000 (a decent integrated graphics chip, does the job).
Also, I don't have any heat issues with the i7 (which was also in the press...). Completely cool using Photoshop, slightly warm using ZBrush. Although it can heat up while streaming hd video, but that's when it's on the kickstand anyway.
Yes, that's why the tablet market is down 7% for another year instead of growing, and why Apple is down 25%? Again, there's no arguing with hypocrisy.
I really don't think you have any idea what the word hypocrisy means Ed. Or anything else for that matter.
That's mostly because I use a Windows laptop every day at work. When I'm not working the last thing I want to do is use a laptop period.You , no. I think we get where your preferences lie
For others on the fence, geez window 10 is looking impressive. I'm really looking to Friday.
It's easy to show growth starting from nothing. Let's see where Surface sales are 5 years from now.