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Tablets are amazing devices. My tablet has been very useful to me for the past 4 years. Carrying documents, PDF files, storing movies to watch on airplane, browsing, YouTube, streaming, movies, etc. But.... I do not feel the need to upgrade to the newer ones. Even though my tablet is 4 years old, it is still very usable. Sure, it is sluggish at times, but I can live with it. I have to admit I use my tablet more often than my MBP due to its portability. But if I were to upgrade, I'd get a new MBP.
 
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Tablets don't solve any problems
I've used iOS, I hate it. It's a joke. Doesn't even have a file browser. Why would I want one when my laptop does everything I need it to?

Tablets don't solve any problems, they create them.

Different thing aren't they. A tablet is more about content viewing not creating.
Easy to carry around. longer battery life.
 
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Sales declining is one thing, but a market share decline is somewhat concerning.
According to whom? none of these vendor report units shipped or much less sold - only Apple reports audited numbers every quarter. Also are we comparing 50 dollar tables with real tables like the iPad?

Also there was report (can't recall right now) in which a senior guy at the NPD group said these numbers are bunkers - basically they use the other category to pad their numbers to their subscribers liking.

Edit
here is the article
http://appleinsider.com/articles/14...-worried-about-ipads-idc-tablet-market-share-
 
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only people that can be surprised by this are the idiots that believed the "post PC" era BS. This nonsense has always been a toy - who cares that there is a 12.5 version coming, it still has a Mickey Mouse OS.
Hmm funny that. Being used in serious medical research, high end games, full design applications. Mechanical design.

What do you do that requires so much more? I do high end 3d and no it can't do that but it's more than powerful to do most office tasks.
 
If the 12.9" iPad is thin enough and light enough, that's going to reenergize sales. The screen size will be the equivalent of an 8.5 x 11 sheet of paper, which means that it will be a boon for both business and publishing use. The current 9.7" screen is certainly usable for things like professional documents, trade books, textbooks, magazines, and comics/graphic novels, but it's not really big enough. Everything always seems slightly too small. An 8.5 x 11 standard in a very light form factor would completely change that.
 
Having file browser on tablet is very beneficial. I can directly connect a USB drive to the tablet, and transfer/organize files the way I want.
 
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Post PC era my ass


I feel that is the best analogy on the subject I've ever heard. Steve is absolutely right.

But it wasn't tablets that changed the landscape as much as smartphones did.

The issue is that while everyone still find "trucks" more than useful, people spend at least as much if not more of their time on their "car", i.e. smartphone (or in the case of Apple, their iOS device).

His point is simple: it used to be 100% "trucks". In our ("Post-PC") era, it's not anymore.

We can argue about percentages to no end, though.
 
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That iPad Pro better be something special. It will probably approach Surface Pro 3 price territory. If it's just a bigger iPad prepare for sales to crater. Think about this: why would anyone spend around 1000 for a nice laptop and then be told what can and can't be installed / uninstalled. Apply that to a bigger more expensive iPad.

As a Surface Pro 3 owner, I can tell you that the potential uses for the iPad Pro do not overlap in any way for me. I will be replacing my iPad, however.
 
I have no idea what your talking about as thats not Android at all.

Um yes it is. Rampant easy piracy - devs barely make any money making android apps.

Only 3 days ago my buddy next to me got a freaking virus on his phone. All because the OS is so open - which is both a good and bad thing. Ironically a thing Google tackled by locking down the play store. But you can of course install from anywhere.
 
Gotta love that 'walled garden' approach by Apple. That's the #1 reason why I see iOS as a pathetic joke; WAY too many limitations.

In what way? Never stopped me doing anything. The file system is still there just not exposed. Apps can still save files. What do you NEED to have it exposed for exactly?
 
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In what way? Never stopped me doing anything. The file system is still there just not exposed. Apps can still save files. What do you NEED to have it exposed for exactly?

This is what's funny to me about "those people". How often do you need to expose the file system in the every day use of any modern program out there, at all? Even Windows wants to nudge you to keep everything in one place...all those other folders outside of your Documents folder have a singular purpose as well. Music, Videos, etc. And on a mobile device, it's incredibly unnecessary - and Microsoft agrees if Windows Phone/Windows 10 Mobile are to be believed.
 
You mean the safe non virusy and porn filled piracy world of android?

Both I and my wife been using Android without issues for 2/3 years and prefer it to iOS in every way.

Don't believe everything you hear or read (even this, I guess). :p

There are viable alternatives to Apple stuff out there (aside from OS X--there's no substitute yet for that in my opinion).
 
Um yes it is. Rampant easy piracy - devs barely make any money making android apps.

Only 3 days ago my buddy next to me got a freaking virus on his phone. All because the OS is so open - which is both a good and bad thing. Ironically a thing Google tackled by locking down the play store. But you can of course install from anywhere.

Cool, but you're exaggerating.
 
apple, you guys are morons. Instead of focusing too much on iOS devices..how about you guys focus on the basic foundation: computers. Go make more mac pros and other desktops..and not rMBP.
 
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It's not surprising that the tablet market is declining, quite obviously really.

Firstly tablets were a brand new technology that proved brilliant for many many people and not just techies. Therefore tons of people went and bought them in the first 1 to 2 years. As iPads don't really slow down over time unlike say a laptop there isn't really much need to replace your iPad. I still have a iPad 2 and yes it is bit slower then my iPad air but by not a lot. For many many people there is just not any reason to replace their current iPad. In addition apart from a slight increase in speed and a reduction in size and weight there aren't really any new hardware features that the new iPads offer. With Apple allowing old iPads to be upgraded to new version of iOS there is even less reason to upgrade. Compare this to iPhones where there is a hardware change and most people buy them for a reduced price on a contract. I bet if we all had to pay the full price for iPhones then there would be far far less upgrading

Have we now got to the point where nearly everyone that wants an iPad has one and there is not much need or new features to entice people to upgrade so the market is in decline. I bet if you looked at the LCD TV market it would be very similar. Everyone upgraded to get a flat screen and then has there been any new tech to justify replacing what you have got.

I bet if Apple brought out a killer hardware function on a new iPad then sales would leap up again. Basically the iPad is to good and there is just not much reason to upgrade.
 
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This is what's funny to me about "those people". How often do you need to expose the file system in the every day use of any modern program out there, at all? Even Windows wants to nudge you to keep everything in one place...all those other folders outside of your Documents folder have a singular purpose as well. Music, Videos, etc. And on a mobile device, it's incredibly unnecessary - and Microsoft agrees if Windows Phone/Windows 10 Mobile are to be believed.

I think that the issue is that we (those people) want to use the device like a handheld computer, where we have complete control over how everything is organized.

Android is (so far) the only mobile OS that (somewhat) allows for this. In iOS, it's a PITA.

I understand why Apple locks down iOS, I just neither agree nor like it.

I want the freedom I have in OS X on my mobile device. For that, I have to go outside the walled garden, unfortunately.
 
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