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I mean...one is very dated. One isn’t. How much more ULTIMATE can this get? Lol.

I think he makes a number of excellent points. His principle take seems to be that Apple didn't go far enough with the new mini. I own one and greatly admire it, but, still...
 
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Nice to see that there seems to be some improvement rear camera wise from somewhere, despite it staying at 8MP.

I was glad I didn’t have the Mini 4. I couldn’t justify the 4 to 5 upgrade but by the time the 4 becomes unusable, the 5 might well be ageing with the upgrade overdue again.
 
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I think he makes a number of excellent points. His principal take seems to be that Apple didn't go far enough with the new mini. I own one and greatly admire it, but, still...
Yeah, that's the superficial look of most youtubers, they all criticize the mini for not looking like a pro. Many of them do not mention however that a mini pro would be 599 at the very least for the entry model, and the same would probably say it's too expensive if that happened. Also nobody thinks about the fact that, in landscape mode, thicker side bezels make the ipad more comfortable to hold, as you can put your full thumb instead of part of it, in a position where gravity and leverage is against you (and a position where the ipad mini is comfortable to hold this way for a long time, contrary to bigger ipads), without interfering with the screen (palm rejection only works on the home screen).
 
Yeah, that's the superficial look of most youtubers, they all criticize the mini for not looking like a pro. Many of them do not mention however that a mini pro would be 599 at the very least for the entry model, and the same would probably say it's too expensive if that happened. Also nobody thinks about the fact that, in landscape mode, thicker side bezels make the ipad more comfortable to hold, as you can put your full thumb instead of part of it, in a position where gravity and leverage is against you (and a position where the ipad mini is comfortable to hold this way for a long time, contrary to bigger ipads), without interfering with the screen (palm rejection only works on the home screen).

You have jumped to a wrong and rather insulting conclusion. I have made exactly that point about the cost of a mini Pro in most emphatic terms elsewhere. I have also suggested that the likelihood of it being introduced is zero. It wouldn't have had to become a Pro model, however, simply because the design had been updated. If it is a success for Apple this year perhaps it will be. That is a conjecture I wouldn't bet against.
 
The iPad mini 5 is 1 more than the iPad mini 4, which must mean it’s better. Right?
Of course.
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Apple didn't go far enough with the new mini.
They put the A12 chip in the iPad Mini 5 and gave us a laminated, beautiful screen. We should be thankful for what we got.
 
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They put the A12 chip in the iPad Mini 5 and gave us a laminated, beautiful screen. We should be thankful for what we got.

That's an odd way of looking at consumer products IMO. If Apple doesn't produce a product that I want to buy, then I'll go to someone who does. When Apple does produce a product that I want to buy, I do. "Gratitude" doesn't factor into the equation.
 
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That's an odd way of looking at consumer products IMO. If Apple doesn't produce a product that I want to buy, then I'll go to someone who does. When Apple does produce a product that I want to buy, I do. "Gratitude" doesn't factor into the equation.

Where you going to go? Tablet wise.
 
Of course.
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They put the A12 chip in the iPad Mini 5 and gave us a laminated, beautiful screen. We should be thankful for what we got.

The full quote:

"His principle take seems to be that Apple didn't go far enough with the new mini."
 
That's an odd way of looking at consumer products IMO. If Apple doesn't produce a product that I want to buy, then I'll go to someone who does. When Apple does produce a product that I want to buy, I do. "Gratitude" doesn't factor into the equation.

Yeah, Apple’s neglect of the Mini for the past four years or so simply meant that I started losing interest in iPads altogether. They updated the iPad form factor I like, and it’s a decent internal upgrade, and much cheaper than something from their Pro line, so it’s more a case of our interests aligning rather than gratitude.

Where you going to go? Tablet wise.

I messed around with some Android tablets in the meantime. My Nvidia Shield K1 still gets some decent use.
 
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Where you going to go? Tablet wise.
First, I'll say that I reject the notion that customers are subservient to the companies we buy products from and that "We should be thankful for what we got" as if we're orphans from Oliver.

As to where I'm going... I currently have a Mini 4 and 2018 iPad. I passed my 2015 12.9" iPad Pro on to my wife. Unless Apple does things to advance iOS for iPad usage, these current iPads will be the last that I own.

I also have a Lenovo Yoga Book (Android version), an Amazon Fire HD 10, and Amazon Fire 7. I bought the Fire tablets mostly to experiment to see what they are capable of doing. They do surprisingly well. My experiments are documented here on MR (Fire HD 10) and (Fire 7) I'll probably pick up a Fire HD 8 to tinker with. The Yoga Book is still a great device and if I could take only a tablet on a trip, it would be that.

If I were in the market to replace my Mini 4 right now, and determined that the Mini 5 is not acceptable to me, then I'd have to consider the new Samsung 8" tablet w/S-Pen support. That's for a mini form-factor. For tablets in general, I have more options.
 
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