Wait till the US defaults on it's debt. And see how the most important capitalist nation crumbles through it's own doing.
I don't call China fully capitalist. If it was then it'd be the most important not the USA.
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Wait till the US defaults on it's debt. And see how the most important capitalist nation crumbles through it's own doing.
I don't call China fully capitalist. If it was then it'd be the most important not the USA.
I would most definitely agree with that. It doesn't affect some people, but it's always very, very noticeable to me. I had a 2012 N7 and it was awful in that regard.
I have a feeling this test will be done in reviews from now on as part of benchmarking. Then, when an Android tablet beats an iPad in this regard, it will be the most important spec.
I like how Apple devices have been the most responsive all along, but Apple doesn't brag about it. They just make the most responsive devices and do any of the technical things to achieve it.
I like how Apple devices have been the most responsive all along, but Apple doesn't brag about it. They just make the most responsive devices and do any of the technical things to achieve it.
One more reason why Android devices are priced lower than Apple's: cheaper, worse-performing components.
You get what you pay for.
Or, there's one more saying where I come from: "I'm too poor to buy cheap things".
So I prefer to give my cash to Apple: overpriced - maybe - but great feeling and user experience.
You get what you pay for.
Or, there's one more saying where I come from: "I'm too poor to buy cheap things".
So I prefer to give my cash to Apple: overpriced - maybe - but great feeling and user experience.
So you want MR to be less unique and more like other tech sites?
Get the f outta here!
I agree, and I hate lag. My point is that for the N7 the delay is almost unnoticeable and believe me, I am very sensitive to these things. The frustration I show at the pregnant pauses that have appeared when doing stuff on my iPhone 4S since moving to IOS7 is a good example of this! So with the delay almost unnoticeable, these scores have less relevance to the experience to my mind and there is a bigger picture to be seen.
It seems that people forget that we as customers and should be demanding better from the package, as there is always room for improvement on a device. Instead people (if comments on here are anything to go by) are happy to see a benchmark score and celebrate a win, as if coming top on a benchmark somehow makes their device/brand the best. What "the best" is depends on each users needs and wants.
That's the silliest thing i've ever heard.
Here you go:
https://www.macrumors.com/2013/09/21/iphone-5-touch-screen-twice-as-fast-as-android-touch-screen/
Return your iPhone 5, ASAP and get one that runs properly.
You might want to also make sure you don't have a screen protector on the phone that could be causing delays in touch sensitivity.
And we have a winner
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This is one of the most adult and sensible posts i've seen on this site in a while.
Benchmark comparisons are not defensive. Nor do they talk down non-Apple vendors. They are simple statements of fact; typically objective, unless the benchmark is chosen in a biased fashion. But that seems not to be the case here.
My fiancee just got the S4 a month or so ago against my recommendation (I recommended the moto x) and now she is kicking herself! She hates it and wants to go back to her iPhone 4! Lag is her number 1 complaint and I would have to agree.
Yeah right like that'll ever happen
Eh? Why have you linked to the article I posted my comments as a response to? Did you think I failed to read the article or something?
And I take my own experiences and those of mutual people over some article of a Apple fan site! FYI Apple totally changed the touchscreen tech from the iPhone 4 to the iPhone 5 hence why it's poorer in response, it doesn't recognise touches as well as the iPhone 4 tech did.
As for returning my iPhone 5, well I would have done for the cheap power button it has if it wasn't out of warranty, so my next phone won't be an i device, plus I hate iOS7.
There's a very noticeable difference betwen 75ms and 168ms. Maybe not if you're simply pointing and clicking, but if you're scrolling, sliding, making gestures or playing games, the nearly 100ms (1/10 of a whole second, mind you) difference will make interaction feel like slogging through molasses.
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"Reflexes" are measured by the time that lapses between your brain to registering and figuring out what has happened and that action being executed. You can certainly notice things happening faster than 215ms (otherwise we would only be able to perceive 5 frames a second), but being able to do anything about it my or may not be within your realm of ability.
... So if you have average reflexes at 215 ms, which is better and less irritating:
- Something that happens after 300 ms (215 + 75) or
- Something that happens after 383 ms, which is almost 2/5th of a whole second later than you wanted
Plus, it's not all about fast reflexes. Pulling back slingshots in Angry Birds, for example, feels more real and connected with quicker touch displays. When it slows down it feels like molasses.
It's just you.
edit: Sorry, that's unnecessarily harsh. Rather, I do find that there are people who notice and people who don't. It seems to be an all-or-nothing kind of thing. Either you don't notice it and can't begin to understand why people discuss such things, or it's the only thing you notice until you put the device down and subsequently hope that you never have to interact with the device again.
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Really?
When I got my iPhone 5, the first thing I did after loading my iCloud backup was swipe to spotlight (iOS 6) and I was amazed to see NO LAG whatsoever in pulling up the keyboard. Prior to the 5, this was the only iOS interaction that consistently exhibited sub-par performance, but the 5 nailed it.
If your iPhone 5 had/has response latency, I highly advise bringing it in for a replacement. That definitely should not be the case.
Ever read a book about 1929?Yeah right like that'll ever happen
Another crash like that could happen.
Mildly better attempt at discussion. I sit here with a 5S, an N4, a Transformer TF300T, and my girlfriends iPad (4th gen). Swiping across screens, opening and closing apps, I suppose I do notice an very slight difference. But is this minimal gain not negated by window speeds and transitionary animatiogain I guess you're right about this one.
Sorry don't really know American history, but would you really want that? The rich usually end up richer from a crisis.
Yeah but it's out of warranty now. Only has 12 months. Like I said the power button only works on one side anyway and if I could i would change it due to that anyway.
Try turning off all the UI fluff... parallax, etc. It will speed it up a bit.
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absolutely! And when we look at touch response, even half-second makes a big difference.
Yeah right like that'll ever happen
Eh? Why have you linked to the article I posted my comments as a response to? Did you think I failed to read the article or something?
And I take my own experiences and those of mutual people over some article of a Apple fan site! FYI Apple totally changed the touchscreen tech from the iPhone 4 to the iPhone 5 hence why it's poorer in response, it doesn't recognise touches as well as the iPhone 4 tech did.
As for returning my iPhone 5, well I would have done for the cheap power button it has if it wasn't out of warranty, so my next phone won't be an i device, plus I hate iOS7.
Ha! If you actually read the article, you'd see that the link shows touch response for iPhones and not Tablets. Why is that relevant? Because you stated that your 4 is more responsive then the 5, hence the article showing you that is not the case.
Two different articles, son. Pay attention.
Hehe
I've got to say, some of the transitions/animations are definitely a step backwards despite how visually pleasing they may (or may not) be. I'm with you there... like when I unlock my phone and have to wait for the bottom row to fall into place before selecting an app or swiping to another screen... that's probably my biggest gripe with iOS 7.
That being said, transitions are momentary while interaction latency is persistent. I'd say it's the single most important characteristic regarding usage and interaction performance of a touch device.
I imagine I might be biased because I do notice this latency while others do not, and so this might not be such a critical measure of performance, but I don't think so: people who don't directly notice this latency will probably still indirectly observe related faults/aggravation that indirectly cause frustration or dissatisfaction.
hmmm but the UI fluff was as advertised! it should be fine with it all on...
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nope because your eyes can see faster than 215ms
and when youre writing, for example, your eyes can see that the ink significantly trails behind your hand.