While I do love the better specs and price on the N7 I find myself forced to get apple just to accommodate all my digital copies lol
Normally i think that people who start these sorts of threads are just moaning for the sake of moaning, but TBH safari refreshing itself EVERYTIME you pop in to check your email is totally irritating.
Nexus 7 is cheaper, with a better screen, more ram, quad core. The mini will sell on it's name alone.
This is what I hate about apple. They very well know that early adopters will buy it regardless only to have to buy the second generation model when they put in an adequate amount of ram and processing power. I also would imagine that this model will have a short iOS update life since it has the same internals of the 1.5 year old ipad 2.
It's a $70 less expensive, smaller iPad 2 with upgraded cameras. I'm still surprised many were expecting more. The iPad 2 performs better than the 3 in many situations, as will the mini. Is it a bit pricey? Yes, but component cost is speculated to be just under $200, and since when does Apple sell anything near cost?
There also just isn't any significant cost saving associated with for Apple associated with using a lower amount of RAM. And no particular need to get that savings since Apple didn't exactly pick an aggressive price point on these.
I'm expecting 1GB myself though.
Nexus 7 is cheaper, with a better screen, more ram, quad core. The mini will sell on it's name alone.
Is it just me or does the iPad mini seem to have the internals of the iPad 2 (except for the camera)?![]()
Would be funny if it indeed has 512mb AND can run Siri. What excuse will Apple have for not letting iPad 2 owners have Siri?
Normally i think that people who start these sorts of threads are just moaning for the sake of moaning, but TBH safari refreshing itself EVERYTIME you pop in to check your email is totally irritating.
Kind of surprised by this but apparently the screen isn't the only retro component (see chart):
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2012/10/apple-joins-the-fray-a-survey-of-the-7-inch-tablet-scene/
Would be funny if it indeed has 512mb AND can run Siri. What excuse will Apple have for not letting iPad 2 owners have Siri?
Agree, I can't wait to hear their excuse.
More ram and quad core mean next to nothing....better screen is only noticable on tablet apps and in web browsing - and is not simply decided on which has the most ppi.
Look at the iPhone 4S and 5 - both have the same ppi but one looks noticeably better. I tried the N7 and couldn't get past the scaled up phone apps and the Android OS.
If by sell on its name, you mean sell to those who prefer the Apple ecosystem - then yes. But it will also attract those who may have a Mac but no tablet because of the lower entry price. Is it a budget tablet? No - but its about equidistant from the lower end 7" tablets and its higher end big brother.
In the end - an extra $80-$100 is well worth it for all the things that come with the Apple ecosystem - and given this has generally been the price difference between Apple and the competition since the start of this "new tablet era", I'd say Apple isn't really concerned with the mini being a hit.
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What are 99% of 7" tablet users going to do on it? Read books, play games, surf the web....why does this device need to have overkill specs right off the bat?
The N7's supposedly superior quad core processor gave me trouble on a regular basis - lagging through apps, crashing and what not (not to mention, as I said above, most of those apps are scaled-up phone apps that don't even take advantage of the resolution of the display). There's a difference between specs for the sake of specs, and finely tuned specs based on the highest possible efficiency. I'll let you guess which companies go with which approach.
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The screen is also better in the mini than the 2. Not only do you take the same number of pixels and cram them into a smaller area, but the screen technology (evidenced by the iPhone 5) has improved tremendously. Sure they didn't go into those details - but I'd be willing to be the iPad mini screen looks much better than we assume a 163 ppi screen would.
I saw that as well, but for the iPad, or iPhone where you really don't do true multitasking how important is 1gig of ram vs. 512meg? I'm not making excuses for apple if this is true, I really don't understand the implication in that we generally only use a single app at a time
No kidding. I lost a long forum post yesterday after switching tabs to grab a link. Totally irritating.
That's an estimate based on the fact that the iPad 2's A5 chip and iPhone 4S' A5 chip also had 512 MB of RAM. I believe the new iPod touch's also got an A5 chip with only 256 MB of RAM.Kind of surprised by this but apparently the screen isn't the only retro component (see chart):
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2012/10/apple-joins-the-fray-a-survey-of-the-7-inch-tablet-scene/