Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
Are you kidding me everybody? That's $30 more than the new iPod touch... What exactly are you all complaining about? It's $160 cheaper, I mean seriously goodbye surface.

The base iPod touch is price to high to begin with. Apple should have had a 16gig model at $200 and then the 32gig model at $300. Many people don't need 32gig or have the extra money to pay for such a high mark up. What if Apple decided to get rid of the $199 16gig iPhone 5 and force people to buy the $299 32gig model?
 
At that price, get the iPod Touch A5. 8 GB is so...so, I do not know but skimping on storage for an extra $10 of margin is a joke.

It is insulting that they continue to sell the 2010 iPod Touch for $199 instead of a 16 GB in the current model.
 
Apple is not putting this thing out for market share. They putting it out to make profits.

Uhhh… You know that's one in the same…. Market share has a DIRECT correlation with profits. I can't believe I even have to say that. Of COURSE they want a larger market share! That's their ultimate goal - 100% of the tablet market in their pocket. And at a $150 increase over the kindle fire HD, they won't be stealing those customers anytime soon. If it's only a $50 premium however…. well, what would you do?
 
Well this kind of makes sense. The iPod touch is $200. No way they would price the iPad mini at $250.

Not really, because why should Apple care if they lose an iPod Touch sale to an iPad Mini (or whatever it's called)? It's still an iOS hardware sale, and would still be more than the Touch anywhere. That's great for them. What they want to avoid is people buying some non-Apple device instead.
 
I don't get people's reaction here.

1) Why would you expect this to be the same price as tablets Amazon/Google make no profit on? Apple already dominates the tablet market with a highly profitable tablet. No way they would cannibalize its sales with a smaller tablet that generate no profit. Why would you expect Apple to lose money on purpose? It's like people can only see this from a consumer's point of view and can't analyze Apple's strategy from a business point of view, resulting in totally non-realistic expectations.

2) Why does everybody here talk of a 8GB starting capacity? This speculation has only started since the fake price list leak starting at $249, which this rumor contradicts. Either you believe one rumor, either you believe the other. People here just take the worse from each rumor. 9to5Mac is way more reliable than the other site, this is likely the real deal, and there probably won't be a 8GB iPad mini.

3) Stop talking about Retina. No way you will see a 2048x1536 7.85" tablet for only $329. Like I said, Apple is here to make money, not to lose some.
Finally someone gets it. It's almost like they think Apple is to change the ipad mini pricing just because of their post.

Here is the problem

Apple sells iDevices.
Some macrumor posters seem to think Apple sells the iPod iPod touch iPhone iPad to compete against companies that make zero dollars on their devices. And in a lot of cases taking a loss just to gain market share. Those companies or products will not be around in the long run. And why would I buy a products from companies with horrible business practices? Just stupid to do so.
 
As has been said by a few, $329 is fine for a starting price as long as it has both a retina display and 16GB. It'll be very interesting to see exactly what it is once it's made official on Tuesday.
 
Lastly, where did your AAPL get battered? You have a presentation next week so traditionally the stock goes down simply to go back up shortly after. So? I bought at $13 and really can not even see the beginning of a hammering.

Well, I'm only talking short-term, obviously. But it's down almost $100 per share off its high in less than a month. That's about 14% in less than a month, yes, I consider that a battering. Long term, yes, I'm happy of course. But I'm worried and I don't think the high-ish price of this new iPad is going to help. Sure, a lot of that is analysts looking for dump on anything that's outside of their expectations, but fair or not, that drives the market. And in this already shaky market that can lead to a state of panic and big losses. Apple needs some good news and this isn't it.
 
329 for a 8 GB when you can get the rumored nexus 7 32 GB for 249 I dont even know how can justify the mini...
 
I can't see it being 8gb to be honest - with iPad apps being a bit bigger it would be an incredibly stupid idea to release one with so little memory. Old iPad resolution I can see happening - but i'd hope for a retina display.

Either way people are going to moan.
 
That's Apple for you. Sell a shrunken and gimped iPad 2 at a higher profit margin.

Samsung FTW.

Exactly. I wouldnt even mind paying $400 for an ipad mini . But that fact that it has no retina is a turn off. All current ios devices have retina. So why downgrade the screen on I pad mini and still make people pay premium prices?

Apple has been hitting that crack pipe a little too hard lately.
 
If you are right...Apple will fail to reduce the market share of android tablets. More expensive, less features, lower specifications than the competition. Does not sound like a recipe for success. The Ipad 3 is the best in its segment, no doubt about it, but with the specification you have listed, the iPad Mini will be a joke.

See that's my point. If you give the mini a A6 processor, 1 gig of ram, retina like resolution and a $330 price tag you're going to hurt the iPad 3 which has a bigger profit margin. Which would you buy; a souped up mini for $329 or a 6 month old power hungry iPad 3 at $499? It's a dangerous game Apple is playing right now. I think no matter how you cut it Apple will only hurt sales between the iPad touch and the iPad 3.
 
If this is the case - they aren't really competing with other vendors. They are simply adding a lower cost iPad solution and/or alternative form factor (IE - education market)

I am sure they will sell a ton - I wouldn't argue otherwise. But I wouldn't call $329 competitive pricing at all. Even $299 would sound better both for marketing and against competition - with $249 being optimal.

My .02
 
This has to wrong. Who would ever launch a product with a starting price of $329. That price isn't just a bad idea it is awkward. I think this is apple messing with people.
 
What's so great about a laplet? Might as well get an Ultrabook. Sorry but anyone who rally believes Surface Pro will take the place of a laptop or desktop is fooling themselves.

I will most likely get a haswell Air 11" and i think that will do.

At least it wont be stifled by awful iOS
 
What made you think that? Why should the iPad compete against e-readers? Two complete different devices?

Funny switch of point of view for some. Not saying you. But when all these e-readers came out - people tried to say they were competing with the iPad or vice-versa.
 
My guess is retina (for 7" spec, 4" is 1136 x 640 326ppi, dunno how much for 7"), A5, 16GB, 5mp iSight, facetime HD for $329.
 
It won't be retina, and there won't be much reason to swap your iPad 2. It is essentially a mini iPad 2 for a lower price (the iPad 2 will be dropped).

But it will have a 163 dpi screen instead of 132 on on the iPad 2, which is a little bonus, and it might have an A6 processor, which would be a lot more powerful than the iPad 2 A5 processor(and any other ARM tablet).

If you are an Apple marketeer, your competition isn't the iPad 2, it's Google, Amazon and Barnes & Noble. Try selling against them instead.

As an exercise:

Come up with a way to sell this by describing only the product's benefits (compared to the competition, and using the attributes you've listed) to an end user that isn't IT qualified. Remember, you can only discuss benefits, and remember who are the competition.
 
Last edited:
I had no hopes Apple would hit the $199 mark, but I'd hoped the 8GB no LTE mini should be $249. That would have really been tough for the competition. Even $299 would be ok, but $329 just looks chintzy. Your competitors are giving it away for free, you can swallow the $20.

Is this rumor coming from the leaked UK prices article? Have there been any updating sources? Or are we just running with it?

the german price list suggested a starting point of 249€ including 19% vat. i hope those become reality ^^ i know thats technically 329$ but apple usually just replaces the $ with an €
 
My proposed spec list.

7.85 inches
1024 x 768 resolution (Same as the iPad 2)
A5 processor (Same used in the iPad 2)
512mb of ram (Same as the iPad 2)
16 gig base model (I just don't see how 8gig will fly at $329)
5 mp camera rear camera (I could be wrong on this one)
HD front facing camera
lighting port
No GPS in the base model
$200 build cost ($129 Apple tax, opps, I mean profit)

pretty much the specs, I do not see Apple will take big steps to include A6 or retina display (like many claim here)

but it would NOT take $200 to build it - mostly around $160 to $180

unlike google, many of the components you listed APPLE can reuse it from iPad 2 and iPhone 4. I believe the cost of 7" 1024x768 apple will get it cheaper. these advantage (SW/HW integration) Google does not have it so their BOM around $190.

at $329 we are looking at 50% profit margin, may be APPLE let third party resellers sell for bit cheaper? they always did that with iPod touch.

resellers like Amazon always undercut the iPod touch prices by $30.
 
I don't get people's reaction here.

1) Why would you expect this to be the same price as tablets Amazon/Google make no profit on?
I don't know but Google doesn't sell the 16Gb models at cost, they make a healthy profit if I see the numbers iFixit came up with.

Seeing how they changed my order to a 32Gb model for the same price as my ordered 16Gb model - I have an iPad 3 but I want something smaller and inexpensive for outside - I don't think they have trouble making profit on these things.

Flash is also ridiculous cheap these days and the price differences in media or tablets is just super inflated.

I don't know if the iPad mini could fly with those rumored numbers. Consumer confidence is dropping a lot lastly even in this country where the iPad has always dominated sales.
 
Register on MacRumors! This sidebar will go away, and you'll see fewer ads.