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Tell you what. Compared to the original Fire, the Nexus 7 is worlds apart. Its much better, faster and more refined. I was very skeptical of Android as I used to have a old android tablet that sucked. The Nexus 7 is very impressive and suprising.

It's not iOS. Everything I own, except the fire which will soon be replaced by the Mini, is iOS or OS X. You know everything is going to work together and I'll probably get the most from all of my devices because they're all on Apple OS's.

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They will no doubt sell a lot because some people are slaves to the apple ecosystem...but I'd draw the line myself on that one.

Or is it that some people believe that they will get the most from their devices if they're all from a homogeneous source? This is actually a good question.
 
$329 is waaaaaaaaay too expensive for a 7" tablet. Who cares about retina. I have the nexus7 (Along with an ipad3) and its non retina hd screen is as sharp as my ipads retina. Moreover, google is dropping the 8 gb and the 16 gb will now be $200 and the new 32 gb will be $249. If the $329 price for the base mini actually is $329 i'll pass and so will many others.
 
It's not iOS. Everything I own, except the fire which will soon be replaced by the Mini, is iOS or OS X. You know everything is going to work together and I'll probably get the most from all of my devices because they're all on Apple OS's.

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Or is it that some people believe that they will get the most from their devices if they're all from a homogeneous source? This is actually a good question.

I think it's an individual question with no right or wrong answer.

When I thought about how I'd use a 7 inch tablet, it was pretty limited. My music is on my phone. It's mostly going to be to surf the net or watch movies, Netflix, Slingbox when I travel. The apps I'd use most on it are free (banking, social media, etc) are free or a buck. There is nothing the Apple ecosystem gives me that I can't get from Google Play.

However, if it I was buying a mini for my mom or daughter, I may keep it in the iTunes ecosystem just to make it easier for them.

If someone planned on sharing music, playlists, video content they've already purchased, etc, then it may be worth it to them.

I just can't bring myself to pay a 50% premium for how I'm going to use it. But I understand there will be people who need to or want to.

This is somewhat new territory. With the iPhone and iPad Apple created markets and had such a headstart that nobody else could compete. The iPod was an average MP3 player (there were much cheaper units with more functionality), but iTunes gave it a huge competitive edge.


Apple is late to the party on 7 inch tablets. And while competitors stubbed there toe out of the gate (original Kindle Fire), the stuff coming out now is pretty darn good. It's a new situation for Apple to just drop in and make a compelling case for why you should spend $329 on an entry level device that has similar specs to a $199 device that's getting great reviews.
 
ipad mini

It must have a full blown GPS if it is going to do it all. For $330.00 to say $530.00 for 64gig it needs it all.
 
329 is just too much for me based upon what I expect my usage. It won't replace my laptop, it won't replace my iPhone - it is a e-reader and internet browsing device for my while I'm on the road. I might pay 50 more than another device to stay with Apple but not that much more.

Sorry Apple - wish you all the best but I can't see selling 10 million for holiday sales at that price.
 
I don't believe the pricing for the iPad mini will be much different to the other competitors in the 7" market. Let me explain.

Even in the full size tablet market, the iPad is still priced competitively with like speced competition. Why would you expect Apple to try and break into the 7" market with a price almost double it's competitors. Just not going to happen.

As you would have seen google are selling a new 32gb nexus 7 for $250 and the 16gb at $200. They have also dropped the 8gb model. At the leaked prices, the ipadmini 32gb was $450 (wifi only). $450 vs $250 , no chance ,those pricing were wrong, seriously wrong. As I've said elsewhere , prepare to be very surprised with the iPad mini pricing. I think you'll see the 32gb model in the $250-$329 max price range.
 
I don't believe the pricing for the iPad mini will be much different to the other competitors in the 7" market. Let me explain.

Even in the full size tablet market, the iPad is still priced competitively with like speced competition. Why would you expect Apple to try and break into the 7" market with a price almost double it's competitors. Just not going to happen.

As you would have seen google are selling a new 32gb nexus 7 for $250 and the 16gb at $200. They have also dropped the 8gb model. At the leaked prices, the ipadmini 32gb was $450 (wifi only). $450 vs $250 , no chance ,those pricing were wrong, seriously wrong. As I've said elsewhere , prepare to be very surprised with the iPad mini pricing. I think you'll see the 32gb model in the $250-$329 max price range.


I sure hope your right with the pricing, but I doubt it. It's Apple. I believe it's gonna be 329 or 350 for the 16gb.
 
I still think the base model will be $299. I said that months ago. Sticking to it. ;)
 
I'll go further and say those leaked prices were a ruse by Apple. Kind of like how everyone expected and were publishing the iPad to start at $1000. Then apple launched it at half that. I would not be surprised if was a deliberate misleading leak.

Put it this way, even as an Apple fan , there is no way in heck I'd buy a 32gb iPad mini for $450 when I can get a Nexus 7 32gb for $250 . Most would agree, Apple are not stupid, why do you think they would try and break into an established market competing against 2 heavy weights with a product that offers no spec improvements but costs twice as much. You are basically saying apple is stupid, which they ar not.

My prediction for the 32gb model still stands at between $250 - $330.
 
I'll go further and say those leaked prices were a ruse by Apple. Kind of like how everyone expected and were publishing the iPad to start at $1000. Then apple launched it at half that. I would not be surprised if was a deliberate misleading leak.

Put it this way, even as an Apple fan , there is no way in heck I'd buy a 32gb iPad mini for $450 when I can get a Nexus 7 32gb for $250 . Most would agree, Apple are not stupid, why do you think they would try and break into an established market competing against 2 heavy weights with a product that offers no spec improvements but costs twice as much. You are basically saying apple is stupid, which they ar not.

My prediction for the 32gb model still stands at between $250 - $330.

Spot On
 
I'll go further and say those leaked prices were a ruse by Apple. Kind of like how everyone expected and were publishing the iPad to start at $1000. Then apple launched it at half that. I would not be surprised if was a deliberate misleading leak.

Put it this way, even as an Apple fan , there is no way in heck I'd buy a 32gb iPad mini for $450 when I can get a Nexus 7 32gb for $250 . Most would agree, Apple are not stupid, why do you think they would try and break into an established market competing against 2 heavy weights with a product that offers no spec improvements but costs twice as much. You are basically saying apple is stupid, which they ar not.

My prediction for the 32gb model still stands at between $250 - $330.

Hope your right, but I still think the 32gb will be either $429 or $450
 
If all the rumors pan out, it'll be a $329 dollar tablet that has a lower screen resolution than the Nexus 7.

What happened to the all important "retina" experience?

And people are actually defending the premium price? This is without mentioning the smaller storage option.

Please, if you don't like the price, don't buy in droves. Send Apple a message. Pleading to deaf ears, though, I imagine.
 
I'll go further and say those leaked prices were a ruse by Apple. Kind of like how everyone expected and were publishing the iPad to start at $1000. Then apple launched it at half that. I would not be surprised if was a deliberate misleading leak.

Put it this way, even as an Apple fan , there is no way in heck I'd buy a 32gb iPad mini for $450 when I can get a Nexus 7 32gb for $250 . Most would agree, Apple are not stupid, why do you think they would try and break into an established market competing against 2 heavy weights with a product that offers no spec improvements but costs twice as much. You are basically saying apple is stupid, which they ar not.

My prediction for the 32gb model still stands at between $250 - $330.


I agree that the entry level mini will be <$329, but I don't think it'll be 32GB. I liked the recent rumor of the 8GB at $249. If the entry level is 16GB, I can even see $299. But I don't think it'll be $329, when the new Kindle Fire HD is $199. Apple wants to get this out for Christmas, and they want to compete with the budget tablets. Parents will be buying tablets this Christmas for their kids, and $199-$299 is the sweet spot, for those not in the $400+ market. Why make a new one, if pricing isn't going to be drastically different then the regular iPad?
 
I agree that the entry level mini will be <$329, but I don't think it'll be 32GB. I liked the recent rumor of the 8GB at $249. If the entry level is 16GB, I can even see $299. But I don't think it'll be $329, when the new Kindle Fire HD is $199. Apple wants to get this out for Christmas, and they want to compete with the budget tablets. Parents will be buying tablets this Christmas for their kids, and $199-$299 is the sweet spot, for those not in the $400+ market. Why make a new one, if pricing isn't going to be drastically different then the regular iPad?


I don't think there will be a 8gb version, I believe it will start at 16.
 
I have a hunch that Apple postponed the launch of the iPad mini by a week because they caught wind of the Nexus 7 32gb coming out at $250. I have this feeling that Apple then reviewed there pricing in that week.

Just a hunch
 
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And what exactly does this have to do with the iPad mini? Wrong place to post buddy.
 
The most I'm willing to pay is 329 and that is if it has GPS. No way, I'm going to fork over 400 LTE/3g for a Ipad Mini.

The Nexus 7 is probably the more practical choice, but I'll overpay by a little bit for an Apple product. I'm not a fan boy, I just like IOS and not a huge fan of Android.

Come on Apple, keep it in the Nexus 7's ballpark and you'll have a customer.

Hell, the Galaxy Tab 2 sounds like a great tablet. Having a built in IR so you can control your TV...sounds pretty cool if you ask me.
 
You need to remember not only the facts I keep saying. But also the fact that with the specs they have, Amazon sell the 7" Kindle Fire at cost, and Google make a tiny profit on the Nexus 7.
So when you consider they are priced at $199 and $249 then Apple would have to SERIOUSLY reduce the specs of an iPad priced at $200 and make it's usual mark up.
Hence another reason for the $330 and up argument. But I still think $350 and up.

And Iphone 5 tear down cost range from $168 to $207. I am in agreement that Apple will price mini to make money and it will have at least 35-40% gross margin. But Apple cost of material is different than anyone else. All this tear down are using part cost base on industry average. Given the size of Apple order, Apple should be able to get part 10-15% less than other manufacturers. And A5 cost is going to be way down, the design cost is probably write down to zero at this point given that they have been using it for Ipad 2, 4S and Apple TV. So let say Ipad mini BOM is 160+25 overhead for a cost of 185 all in cost of 185, 40% over is about $260.


http://appleinsider.com/articles/12/09/14/16gb_iphone_5_bill_of_materials_estimated_at_168

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2409891,00.asp
 
And Iphone 5 tear down cost range from $168 to $207. I am in agreement that Apple will price mini to make money and it will have at least 35-40% gross margin. But Apple cost of material is different than anyone else. All this tear down are using part cost base on industry average. Given the size of Apple order, Apple should be able to get part 10-15% less than other manufacturers. And A5 cost is going to be way down, the design cost is probably write down to zero at this point given that they have been using it for Ipad 2, 4S and Apple TV. So let say Ipad mini BOM is 160+25 overhead for a cost of 185 all in cost of 185, 40% over is about $260.


http://appleinsider.com/articles/12/09/14/16gb_iphone_5_bill_of_materials_estimated_at_168

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2409891,00.asp


Good point.
 
The most I'm willing to pay is 329 and that is if it has GPS. No way, I'm going to fork over 400 LTE/3g for a Ipad Mini.

The Nexus 7 is probably the more practical choice, but I'll overpay by a little bit for an Apple product. I'm not a fan boy, I just like IOS and not a huge fan of Android.

Come on Apple, keep it in the Nexus 7's ballpark and you'll have a customer.

Hell, the Galaxy Tab 2 sounds like a great tablet. Having a built in IR so you can control your TV...sounds pretty cool if you ask me.

Gps? The bigger iPad doesnt even have gps.

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And Iphone 5 tear down cost range from $168 to $207. I am in agreement that Apple will price mini to make money and it will have at least 35-40% gross margin. But Apple cost of material is different than anyone else. All this tear down are using part cost base on industry average. Given the size of Apple order, Apple should be able to get part 10-15% less than other manufacturers. And A5 cost is going to be way down, the design cost is probably write down to zero at this point given that they have been using it for Ipad 2, 4S and Apple TV. So let say Ipad mini BOM is 160+25 overhead for a cost of 185 all in cost of 185, 40% over is about $260.


http://appleinsider.com/articles/12/09/14/16gb_iphone_5_bill_of_materials_estimated_at_168

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2409891,00.asp

It wont be priced less than the iPod touch
 
Gps? The bigger iPad doesnt even have gps.

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It wont be priced less than the iPod touch

Having a 10 inch tablet in your car for maps wouldn't be popular. Ipad mini's small stature makes it ideal for in car entertainment and maps.
 
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