iPad Pro IPad Officially has USB 3.0 Port!

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  1. AliMacs macrumors 6502

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    Got my USB 3 Camera Connector - finally, a REAL USB 3.0 port! Gonna try to hook stuff up now.

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  2. silverblack macrumors 68030

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    What is this adapter good for, besides connecting to cameras?
     
  3. appleguy123 macrumors 603

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    Phil said it can be used for ethernet too with another adaptor.
     
  4. tekchic macrumors 65816

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    I wonder if you could play movies off a thumb drive...
     
  5. AliMacs thread starter macrumors 6502

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    OK folks, here are some initial tests done very quickly-

    I have brand new unopened seagate 2TB external USB 3.0 drive. I plugged it in. I get the following. NO SUPPORT FOR THESE DRIVES. Then add more salt to wound, iPad won't charge (I'm just using the 12Watt brick - I don't have the USB-C/Lightning cable nor the USB-C 29W charger which COULD MAKE A DIFFERENCE). So far Phil's marketing team has 1 - 0 for not supporting external drive. I will need to see if I can access the iOS API to connect. Since Sandisk Lightning port USB drives work with their app to access everything, I'm sure you can probably do this I'll dig deep into the SDK and see if I can find something with this new USB 3.0 connector.

    I did try a USB 2.0 card reader for CF CARDS and it works fine. SLOW but works. I will try to connect my android phone using OTG to the iPad - since I can use PTP mode to connect, maybe it will see my android phone. I will also try to connect my M-Audio device and also a USB Microphone. So far if you use an external power source it will POWER any USB device! This is great! No more low power warning!

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  7. AliMacs thread starter macrumors 6502

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    HEre is my M-Audio USB microphone - it works 100% in garage band!

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    The old one doesn't power anything off the USB port I don't think. This new one POWERS THE DEVICE CONNECTED to that port!
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    It's for USB 3.0 devices. I mean I don't think many of them actually works but so far look at the list of stuff I'm testing so far some works some don't. I will try an Ethernet adapter when I can get a hold of one. I will try OTG cable from my android next!

    PS - the iPad WILL CHARGE AND POWER the USB MIC at the same time. As for the USB 3.0 HDD, it won't charge my iPad at the same time but it powers it just fine. I think it's the fact my 12watt charger doesn't have enough juice - I'm so tempted to get that USB-c 29w charger now!
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    My M-Audio MIDI controller works 100% in garage band - the iPad Pro is charging while still powering the controller!

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    I think it might be the Quick Charger 2.0 cable I'm using - somehow not compatible. But I can access the phone via Imports but that's it. But even then it flickers back and forth between the two messages below:

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    Overall this adapter is becoming useless except for MUSIC related devices! You can also attach a USB HUB (but I only have USB 2.0 hubs, not USB 3.0) - and multiple devices will connect! Truly nice at least to connect more than one mic/guitar/keyboard/midi controller
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    Ok, some stuff just don't work but now I know...

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    I can charge camera just fine, however.

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  8. Eric5273 macrumors 6502a

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    Can this adapter be used to read files from a USB stick drive? I know it can be used to load photos, but what about other files types? Can you open another file type and use the "Open With" command to open it in an appropriate app?
     
  9. AliMacs thread starter macrumors 6502

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    THis is exactly how Phil Schiller imagined how the Apple Pencil would work. Check it out - you can CHARGE YOUR IPAD WHILE CHARGING YOUR PENCIL. It shows the pencil is connected in settings, however, you cannot USE THE PENCIL WHILE CHARGING. That's another negative for this pencil!

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  10. Wackery macrumors 6502a

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    I think this image sums up the current state of apple as a company right now very well.
     
  11. Ghost31 macrumors 68000

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    Pretty devices that you have to jump through hoops to be functional for you.
     
  12. AliMacs thread starter macrumors 6502

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    I couldn't even stick my USB 3.0 card reader in the USB 3.0 port with the Lightning charging cable plugged in - but I have an extension cord so it's ok. BUT if you don't connect the power charger cable even a simple USB 3.0 card reader won't work!

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    The apps only have access to the SDK API functions - I know Sandisk can read from the Lightning port so the app itself can read all the contents on the drive - it's a matter of developing an app to read from the port itself. I believe you'll see more apps implement this real soon since this USB 3 Camera connector is released!
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    LOL - I didn't expect much but this is an idea. Of course I expected this to connect properly BUT I also expected it to WORK WHILE CHARGING. BUT IT DOESN'T! Ultimate fail for the pencil and this connector port.
     
  13. Wackery macrumors 6502a

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    I was thinking more along the lines of, a whole bunch of good in concept ideas that absolutely fail in execution. But your interpretation works too, ha.
     
  14. AliMacs thread starter macrumors 6502

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    I don't know the main purpose of this $39 adaptor is for - well I do know for camera's and so forth. But I hope developers will access the API to access the contents of the device connected. But I have a feeling Apple blocks this (without looking at the code) - we'll just have to wait and see.

    At least I can connect all my instruments and have a garage band party! /s
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    I loaded my USB 3.0 reader with some movies and audio and pictures - only the pictures would "import" - that's the only API native function for iOS when connected to an external device. Unless you use a proprietary app, you can't even see the contents except images only.
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    Apple is ultra stubborn in allowing external connectivity. This is just so stupid of them to release a very nice USB 3.0 port and a POWERED PORT even but not allow anything else to work with it. I can't even use my xbox 360 controller, PS4 controller, nada. An apple wired keyboard doesn't even work either!

    This is most likely driven by their marketing team. I enjoy using WIFI on my cameras to transfer the images to my IPP via their own app and it works great. Having this dongle I expected more than just importing pictures. But at least music devices work great. But that's it. Can't use external camera for FaceTime like on my Mac, can't even access a simple USB drive.

    At this rate it'll take iOS 20 to figure out something.
     
  15. masotime macrumors 68000

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    For photos I use this - http://www.apple.com/shop/product/MJYT2AM/A/lightning-to-sd-card-camera-reader

    It's restricted to SD cards, but it works very well for me. I own an LX100... just have to pop out the SD card and pop it into that.

    I'm actually a little surprised Apple launched this new USB3 accessory. It's interesting that it can connect to cameras and musical / recording instruments, but otherwise as you've already observed, it doesn't seem very useful to me. Apple likes to have very careful control over the customer experience, so they usually restrict all kinds of use cases until they have the time to make their own, carefully crafted solution.

    It's a very draconian approach that has had mixed results in recent years. But in this case... I have no idea what was their "carefully crafted" solution in introducing this accessory.
     
  16. AliMacs thread starter macrumors 6502

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    I have CF Cards for my DSLR and I use a card reader for SD cards. So I need the connector but for my smaller compact cameras I just use wifi to transfer as well before this connector was available. I have 14 days to return this crap anyway so I'll wait and see how much use i get out of this thing. Overall it's cool to say you have a USB 3.0 port but the damn thing does nothing except import pictures - why wouldn't you just have an SD CARD SLOT instead. So stupid!
     
  17. tonyunreal macrumors regular

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    I remember he said something like "you can use an ethernet adapter or a MIDI keyboard if you have an extra power source".
     
  18. aces99 macrumors 6502

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    Will it work with the new 9.7" iPad Pro? Also can you hook up a Seagate external HD to it to transfer pictures and videos?
     
  19. AliMacs thread starter macrumors 6502

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    I works with all iPads and even iPhones. It won't work in USB 3.0 transfer speeds. Only USB 2.0, however. On the iPad Pro 12.9", it functions in USB 3.0 transfer speeds. But that's only using photos Import. You can't hook up anything else it will connect but error will pop up. USB 3.0 speeds ONLY work on iPad Pro 12.9". Every other device is USB 2.0

    Other than that, you can use musical devices to connect to your iPad - mics, guitars, midi controllers in garage band. It works 100% so far as I have tested.
     
  20. aces99 macrumors 6502

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    That's what I thought. Was hoping you could get USB 3 speeds with the 9.7" iPad Pro. I wish there was some way to hook an iPad to an external HD or thumb drive to transfer pictures and videos.
     
  21. aevan macrumors 68000

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    "Another" negative? How many are there?
     
  22. Serban Suspended

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    another negative that you can't use the pencil while is charging ?? who will feel comfortable using the pen that way??
     
  23. righteye macrumors 6502

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    Apple manipulation, the iPad could be so much more but is held back with bad connectivity,no built in card reader,not able to read video files externally (stream or buy from Apple) even with a USB 3.0 port. Nobbled so one still needs to own a laptop.
     
  24. TrueBlou macrumors demi-god

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    I know, that 15 seconds of waiting from a flat battery to get 30 minutes of use from a quality, responsive and easy to use accessory is an absolute disgrace in this day and age. What the hell were Apple thinking. That's it, the final straw I'm buying a Surface Pro. Screw Apple and all of you iSheep, I'm going to go snap my Pencil in half, its as much use as a snorkel for a penguin.





    ....... Did that sound sarcastic in any way? Oh dear I must learn to word my posts more carefully :p
     
  25. username: macrumors 6502a

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    No one ever said the adapter would work with external hard drives. Not saying it is right, but I listened very carefully to the keynote and read the information About the adapter and nothing indicated it would work with an external drive, which was dissapointing to hear but I realised from the information that would be the case.
     

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