iPad or Asus Transformer?

[vrDrew]

This seems a very silly question.

Sort of on the order of "Should I watch Jimi Hendrix play at Woodstock this weekend, or catch this really nifty oompah band play my local American Legion?"

Does anyone REALLY think that, thirty years from now, when people get together to talk about the computer devices that changed the world back in 2011 - that people are even going to remember the Asus Transformer?

Be a part of history. Get the iPad.

 

[fertilized-egg]

Does anyone REALLY think that, thirty years from now, when people get together to talk about the computer devices that changed the world back in 2011 - that people are even going to remember the Asus Transformer?

Be a part of history. Get the iPad.

You're crazy. If I wanted to be a part of history I'll be rocking a Logitech Revue Google TV and witness the device come up in the list of biggest tech failures over and over again. Oh and tell my children that "see this thing was returned more than it sold in quarter, isn't that amazing?"

 

[jsh1120]

This seems a very silly question.

Sort of on the order of "Should I watch Jimi Hendrix play at Woodstock this weekend, or catch this really nifty oompah band play my local American Legion?"

Does anyone REALLY think that, thirty years from now, when people get together to talk about the computer devices that changed the world back in 2011 - that people are even going to remember the Asus Transformer?

Be a part of history. Get the iPad.

Being "part of history" once involved buying an Apple II. That didn't make it the most usable or powerful personal computer in a short time after its introduction. Likewise, "being part of history" once involved getting a Macintosh. Again, its features were soon incorporated into far more powerful and usable devices. And lest anyone needs to be reminded, it wasn't the Lisa.

Many folks don't buy computers so they can have bragging rights 30 years from now. They buy them to accomplish particular tasks. If you want to be "part of history," there are far better ways than buying a computer.

 

[bufffilm]

This seems a very silly question.

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Be a part of history. Get the iPad.

are you eff-ing kidding me?!

i was around to buy the first sony walkman model, which coincidentally happened more than 30 years ago too. i was part of that 'history'...nobody cares anymore. do you think when the ipod reaches its 30th anniversary people are going to care much either? i don't even care about the first ipod now and we'll be hitting its first decade in several months.

use a different argument please...to say 'be part of history' in regards to a consumer device is being silly. or shallow. take your pick.

 

[MassacrMan]

This seems a very silly question.

Sort of on the order of "Should I watch Jimi Hendrix play at Woodstock this weekend, or catch this really nifty oompah band play my local American Legion?"

Does anyone REALLY think that, thirty years from now, when people get together to talk about the computer devices that changed the world back in 2011 - that people are even going to remember the Asus Transformer?

Be a part of history. Get the iPad.

Wow, that has to be the most closed minded paragraph I have read in my entire life...

I actually just sold my iPad to my friend and picked up an ASUS Transformer.

That said, I am not coming back to these forums for many reasons.

I thought I would try to be part of both sides of the river, Android for my Phone, iOS for my Tablet. Boy was that a mistake, the amount of slamming of anything not made by Apple here is embarrassing. I cannot wait for Apple to release TVs and see you guys try to convince people that it will be better than a TV by Samsung or Sony, because it won't be.

Have fun in your closed minded world, I won't miss you.

As for the people who are fair and keep in mind the advances made by other companies besides Apple. Thank you for being fair, and please continue being that way.

 

[radiogoober]

Being "part of history" once involved buying an Apple II. That didn't make it the most usable or powerful personal computer in a short time after its introduction. Likewise, "being part of history" once involved getting a Macintosh. Again, its features were soon incorporated into far more powerful and usable devices. And lest anyone needs to be reminded, it wasn't the Lisa.

Many folks don't buy computers so they can have bragging rights 30 years from now. They buy them to accomplish particular tasks. If you want to be "part of history," there are far better ways than buying a computer.

At least Apple is making history Everyone (except a few random geeks on the internet) wants an iPhone or an iPad. Do you really think in 30 years anyone will care about a Xoom? Or a Transformer (rofl)? Or even Android?

 

[Dave421]

At least Apple is making history Everyone (except a few random geeks on the internet) wants an iPhone or an iPad. Do you really think in 30 years anyone will care about a Xoom? Or a Transformer (rofl)? Or even Android?

You're right, we should all buy Apple devices so that 30 years from now we can tell people how awesome we were

 

[radiogoober]

You're right, we should all buy Apple devices so that 30 years from now we can tell people how awesome we were

Yes. That's exactly what I said.

/rolls eyes

 

[henry72]

iPad all the way!!!

 

[MrWillie]

I actually just sold my iPad to my friend and picked up an ASUS Transformer.

That said, I am not coming back to these forums for many reasons.

I thought I would try to be part of both sides of the river, Android for my Phone, iOS for my Tablet. Boy was that a mistake, the amount of slamming of anything not made by Apple here is embarrassing. I cannot wait for Apple to release TVs and see you guys try to convince people that it will be better than a TV by Samsung or Sony, because it won't be.

Have fun in your closed minded world, I won't miss you.

As for the people who are fair and keep in mind the advances made by other companies besides Apple. Thank you for being fair, and please continue being that way.

A) You are (were, thank God) on the iPad section of a Mac forum, not one of the thousands of Andriod forums.

B) Close minded ? I am in an eco system that works. Works across my iPad, iMac, office Win workstation and office Win laptop. (I don't have a smart phone). Why should I even consider an Android device ? So I can screw up my workflow ? No thanks. I don't agree to the TOS of Google sync.

C) If Apple does come out with a TV, you bet your ass I'll look at it. If it interegrates nicely with the way I have things set up, I'll consider it. So what.

Good riddance.

 

[fertilized-egg]

A) You are (were, thank God) on the iPad section of a Mac forum, not one of the thousands of Andriod forums.

One thing I keep noticing on Mac-themed forums, especially in Macrumors is that somehow there are always people who think it should be a neutral place free of bias, and I think that's pretty ridiculous. If you're in a site that's catering to users of a certain brand, of course the site will be biased toward that brand, that's just a natural behavior.

I don't know if it's just polemic or, more likely, a rebelling against what they see as popular for mainstream crowd, which is a pretty common theme on the internet.

 

[spiderman0616]

I've not always been the biggest Apple supporter--it was only a year ago that I let go of my Apple hate and bought an iPhone. I totally understand why some people hate Apple, and I've heard all the reasons a thousand times from the "geeks" who want to root, hack, etc. on their devices. But that is the vocal minority.

I honestly have no understanding of why you would want to buy a tablet other than an iPad at this particular moment in time. While the iPad gets criticized for being a giant iPod touch (it's really not), an Android tablet really is a giant Android phone without the phone. The reason being that the app selection is mostly phone apps, and the tablet optimized apps are just not there yet. I still think the Android tablet app market will grow, but holy crap, if you bought a Xoom when they came out a few months ago for the ridiculous price that it was, you STILL don't have a whole lot of tablet optimized apps.

Even if you hate Apple, the iPad 2 is the better investment. The ecosystem is there, the support is there, and the OS is polished and ready to work for you, as opposed to what basically amounts to a tablet beta on an Android device. Will this change? I am sure the Android tablet situation will improve greatly, but I believe that early adopters will feel slightly burned when their "old" hardware doesn't support the new and improved Android stuff.

For now, I really think the iPad 2 is the only game in town when it comes to apps available, fluidity of the OS, and customer support.

 

[jsh1120]

One thing I keep noticing on Mac-themed forums, especially in Macrumors is that somehow there are always people who think it should be a neutral place free of bias, and I think that's pretty ridiculous. If you're in a site that's catering to users of a certain brand, of course the site will be biased toward that brand, that's just a natural behavior.

I don't know if it's just polemic or, more likely, a rebelling against what they see as popular for mainstream crowd, which is a pretty common theme on the internet.

I don't think anyone should assume that a site devoted to a particular brand of hardware or software should be a "neutral place free of bias." What is objectionable, however, is fanboy vitriol directed against any comment that is less than a prayer of devotion for Apple products. The fact that the same juvenile behavior is common on other sites doesn't excuse it.

 

[MrWillie]

One thing I keep noticing on Mac-themed forums, especially in Macrumors is that somehow there are always people who think it should be a neutral place free of bias, and I think that's pretty ridiculous. If you're in a site that's catering to users of a certain brand, of course the site will be biased toward that brand, that's just a natural behavior.

I don't know if it's just polemic or, more likely, a rebelling against what they see as popular for mainstream crowd, which is a pretty common theme on the internet.

Try even mentioning Apple in a positive way on an Android forum. The fandroids will lash out in ways that would get you banned on here. Very uncivil.

 

[jsh1120]

Try even mentioning Apple in a positive way on an Android forum. The fandroids will lash out in ways that would get you banned on here. Very uncivil.

"So's your old man" is not an argument.

 

[tstarks33]

I don't think anyone should assume that a site devoted to a particular brand of hardware or software should be a "neutral place free of bias." What is objectionable, however, is fanboy vitriol directed against any comment that is less than a prayer of devotion for Apple products. The fact that the same juvenile behavior is common on other sites doesn't excuse it.

Yes, this pretty much sums it up.

 

[silverblack]

First of all, iPad rules! I have one and love it. But I also have the funds to buy another tablet, I want something that can play flash from megavideo. Android app market is the second best in app availability.

On the weekend, I was looking at the Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.2. It definitely resembles the iPad in many ways, thin profile, white or silver back. I think it looks much sleeker than the Asus Transformer. The last day to return my Transformer to Staples is Thursday, and so I have some decision making to do.

Galaxy Tab's strengths:
- thinness, better looking, possbily better built (many complain about creaking/body flexing on the Asus)
- prettier in my opinion
- better camera, better speakers

Transformer's strengths:
- USB expansion, microSD, SD (I love to be able to load up lots of movies on trips)
- dock with battery that can charge up tablet, together offers 14 - 16 hours of battery life
- cheaper in price, and available now (Canadian launch date of the Samsung GT is Aug 19)

 

[dccorona]

forgive me if I sound ignorant, but what exactly is the point of GPS without 3G? If you have WiFi, you're in a building (or right outside) so you won't need GPS, and you know where you are, and if you need the GPS, the maps have to be downloaded, which is most likely going to require 3G unless you are driving through one of the rare towns in the US that blankets the whole town in WiFi.

 

[AppleDApp]

forgive me if I sound ignorant, but what exactly is the point of GPS without 3G? If you have WiFi, you're in a building (or right outside) so you won't need GPS, and you know where you are, and if you need the GPS, the maps have to be downloaded, which is most likely going to require 3G unless you are driving through one of the rare towns in the US that blankets the whole town in WiFi.

you could have all the maps saved to the device instead of fetching it from a server. Most if not all GPS units for cars work that way.

 

[Papanate]

You don't need a reason. Just buy the cheaper device. It suits you best.

 

[fertilized-egg]

For those who were claiming Android isn't smooth just because of its advanced multitaking and widgets, and it'll become just as smooth as iOS if widgets and background services are turned off(which simply isn't true as I can attest) here's an interesting read:

http://nfarina.com/post/8239634061/ios-to-android

Animation

The thing to realize about Android is that ... It was conceived and designed during the pre-iPhone days of Blackberry and Windows Mobile, and the influence of those platforms goes very deep into the Android OS.

For instance. The rendering system, that is, the method by which UI widgets like menus and buttons and such get painted on the screen, is primarily software-based.
...
If this sounds familiar, it’s because this is the basic method used in GDI, the rendering system introduced with Microsoft Windows 1.0. That sounds damning, but really most GUIs operated this way.

Until the iPhone came along
...
Android seems to have made the decision early on that they wouldn’t force their manufacturing partners to include a GPU. This decision made total sense back in the pre-iPhone days, but now it’s causing pain, as even the new hardware acceleration in Android 3.0 is limited by the original software-based compositing system.

 

[greytmom]

My Point? I have no "issues" with my android Tegra 2 tablets, but there seems to be quite a few problems listed here for ipads.

That's a silly argument. If you go to an android Tegra 2 message board, I guarantee you will find people who DO have issues with the product.

Just because you find of posts here about problems people are having, doesn't mean it's a faulty device. The number of people with problems is miniscule compared to the number of people who aren't posting because they don't have any problems. As an example, let's say 10,000 people having backlight bleeding. Sounds like a lot, right? But 10,000 out of 1,000,000 is 1%. And there are certainly more than 1,000,000 iPads out there.

For the record, my iPad 1 works beautifully. No issues whatsoever, has been perfect since day 1.

Having said that, I don't care what device people choose. Buy what you want, and enjoy it.

 

[darngooddesign]

forgive me if I sound ignorant, but what exactly is the point of GPS without 3G? If you have WiFi, you're in a building (or right outside) so you won't need GPS, and you know where you are, and if you need the GPS, the maps have to be downloaded, which is most likely going to require 3G unless you are driving through one of the rare towns in the US that blankets the whole town in WiFi.

As someone mentioned, the map info is stored locally on the device. That's the reason most GPS apps weigh in over one GB. A lot of times those apps work best with 3G because they will download live traffic info to your device.

 

[4DThinker]

That's a silly argument. If you go to an android Tegra 2 message board, I guarantee you will find people who DO have issues with the product.

Of course. Now please go to the beginning in this thread and read my other posts. As for silly, I'll take that as a compliment.

 

[err404]

I own a Streak 7 (running HC 3.2) and an iPad. When comparing the core experience of each device, the Apple device is far nicer.
The Streak 7 is running with a dual core Tegra2 and is quite fast and smooth, however the UI is also very laggy. Web sites scroll smooth, but lag behind my finger by a fraction of a second. The iPad(1) provides a much more pleasing 1-to-1 movement with my input. The extends beyond just the browser. The entire UI has this lag (I have tried several ROMS). This lag was also apparent on the floor display models of every other Android tablet that I have seen. As a note the BB Playbook and HP Touchpad have wonderfully responsive UI's which are in the same class as the iPad. Only Android fall behind in this area.

The App stores are both OK, and suffer in the same areas. Neither is great for discovering new apps, but apps and web sites link back to the stores fairly seamlessly.

Out of the box I prefer iOS, but Android does have a silver lining in that it is much more customizable.

As a note, my wife absolutely refuses to use the Android tablet due to the lag.