Pandakopanda
macrumors newbie
Yes, because you don't have to unlock the device to flip the switch and I don't have to uncase the iPad entirely because the switch is much more accessible than using the screen.
iPad OS 4.2 'Orientation Lock' to 'Mute Switch' Change Permanent
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This is why we jailbreak.
Like the title says. This is why we jailbreak. It's wonderful hardware, but it sure sucks if you're locked down to what Steve considers least confusing for mouthbreathers.
Change brightness setting and wifi any time? Check. Real multitask? Check. Load files to any app on the iPad over wifi? Check. scp off the iPad to the server? Check. Can I reassign any of the switches to any function for tapped or held? Check.
So I'm sure the switch will be an orientation lock again in no time at all. But only if you jailbreak.
Yeah, I realize this post is offensive and smarmy in its level of contempt, but if Apple has no respect for you, why should you have any for them?
Like the title says. This is why we jailbreak. It's wonderful hardware, but it sure sucks if you're locked down to what Steve considers least confusing for mouthbreathers.
Change brightness setting and wifi any time? Check. Real multitask? Check. Load files to any app on the iPad over wifi? Check. scp off the iPad to the server? Check. Can I reassign any of the switches to any function for tapped or held? Check.
So I'm sure the switch will be an orientation lock again in no time at all. But only if you jailbreak.
Yeah, I realize this post is offensive and smarmy in its level of contempt, but if Apple has no respect for you, why should you have any for them?
LOL - Apple fanboy-ism at its best. Ooooh poor Steve Jobs getting bothered with petty questions. Oh my...
Northgrove
macrumors 65816
I also dislike this change, especially since the mute button is right next to the volume buttons.
Nah. Click = mute / Hold down for 2 seconds = screen lock. But they won't compromise like this, even if they did with the iPhone Home button, adding secondary double-click functionality. Because they're stubborn and have decided already.
Nah. Click = mute / Hold down for 2 seconds = screen lock. But they won't compromise like this, even if they did with the iPhone Home button, adding secondary double-click functionality. Because they're stubborn and have decided already.
Steve Jobs is such a arrogant prick... when will he learn?
I love Apple's products and use my iPods and iPad all the time, but it's never a good idea to change a much-used feature (like the orientation switch) to something completely else without the option for the user to set it back. It can't be that hard to implement.
I predict a outcry from existing iPad owners when the 4.2 update hits and users suddenly realize their product doesn't work as expected anymore - this may hopefully force Apple to make a update with the option.
I love Apple's products and use my iPods and iPad all the time, but it's never a good idea to change a much-used feature (like the orientation switch) to something completely else without the option for the user to set it back. It can't be that hard to implement.
I predict a outcry from existing iPad owners when the 4.2 update hits and users suddenly realize their product doesn't work as expected anymore - this may hopefully force Apple to make a update with the option.
sonictonic
macrumors 6502a
I agree, and I will be one of the whiners going to apple.com/feedback once the update hits.
Been an iPad user since day one. Had an iPhone since the original launch. Have an iPhone 4 now.
Making the switch a mute switch with no option is flat out stupid. Whats the point? The iPad can't make calls. The only time the device really makes sound is when you're interacting with it. Unlike the iPhone, where you might need to instantly silence the device.
At the very least there should be an option to make it a screen orientation lock or a mute switch.
I've lost track of how many times I've been reading an ebook on my iPad and used the switch to lock the screen orientation so the screen didn't rotate when I moved around to get more comfortable. Now I'll have to double tap the home button, swipe, touch a button, and return to the app. All because some control freak thinks thats how things should be.
Good thing the jailbreakers will take care of this.
Making the switch a mute switch with no option is flat out stupid. Whats the point? The iPad can't make calls. The only time the device really makes sound is when you're interacting with it. Unlike the iPhone, where you might need to instantly silence the device.
At the very least there should be an option to make it a screen orientation lock or a mute switch.
I've lost track of how many times I've been reading an ebook on my iPad and used the switch to lock the screen orientation so the screen didn't rotate when I moved around to get more comfortable. Now I'll have to double tap the home button, swipe, touch a button, and return to the app. All because some control freak thinks thats how things should be.
Good thing the jailbreakers will take care of this.
iStudentUK
macrumors 65816
Wow... douchebag!
I understand Apple controlling its iDevices quite a lot for a better user experience... but this is just excessive. It just makes sense intuitively to have the switch as mute on the iPhone and screen lock on the iPad.
As many have said jail breaking may be the answer for the iPad, giving much more control to the end user.
Recently I've really been getting the impression that SJ has gone a bit crazy! May I even suggest that a new CEO may benefit Apple? Blasphemy!
I understand Apple controlling its iDevices quite a lot for a better user experience... but this is just excessive. It just makes sense intuitively to have the switch as mute on the iPhone and screen lock on the iPad.
As many have said jail breaking may be the answer for the iPad, giving much more control to the end user.
Recently I've really been getting the impression that SJ has gone a bit crazy! May I even suggest that a new CEO may benefit Apple? Blasphemy!
greywizard
macrumors newbie
I have the Wifi-only iPad and have never needed to mute and ocassionally needed the orientation lock.
Personally it doesn't matter to me whether the orientation lock is a software or a hardware switch as long as I can screen lock both portrait and landscape.
Personally it doesn't matter to me whether the orientation lock is a software or a hardware switch as long as I can screen lock both portrait and landscape.
Yes I do.
It's easier to use the side lock when reading science articles. I often use screen lock for this.
You probably use it as a toy - y'know - you're the "guy with iPad". But remember, some of us are actually using this to supplement our workflow.
You dont seriously think Steve sits in Apple HQ coming up with the ideas do you
I guess those 1,000+ employees are what? His groupies?If Steve retired today we'd seem a hell of a lot more flexibility across the entire mac and iToy line.
Are there any situations where the iPad would unexpectedly start making sounds? Unless you use it as an alarm clock, no (and alarms are hardly unexpected, you set them yourself).
On the iPhone however, every e-mail, SMS, push notification and not least actual phone calls can cause an unexpected sound and that is what you want to protect yourself against with the mute 'switch'.
And all the other people taking the same stance in reverse shows exactly why it might not be so big of a deal what the default setting is, but it IS a big deal that users can't make the choice based on their own needs and use.
Ciclismo
macrumors 6502a
I do own an iPad and I use the rotation lock more often than mute (around 5-6x more often). Considering that holding down the "-" volume rocker will after less than two seconds mute the device, the use of the slider as a mute is redundant, and considering that a simple switch has now been replaced by several steps, this is an unecessary complication.
As you do not own an iPad, you do not understand that this is an inconvenience for those of us who do, so please think twice before posting inflammatory remarks.
To those making comparisons to the iPhone I must state that the iPad is used in a different way - I do not run the risk of getting a phone call nor can I use an annoying 30 second sound-bite to indicate receipt of a message; the iPad is like the "Hunt for Red October" in that it gives me "one ping only", so I (along with apparently many others reading some of the responses) rarely need to mute my iPad. But it does get handed around a lot to show others PDFs, websites, documents etc. and as many are unfamiliar and therefore annoyed with the auto-rotation, the slider comes in very handy. Excluding the ability for the user to select what is the more convenient use of the slider is a step backward in usability.
Ciclismo
macrumors 6502a
If 4.2 doesn't have the option of using the switch as a rotation lock, then I will give it a week to prove that it is not inefficient nor annoying. If it doesn't, then it wil be the sole reason that I will Jailbreak.
bobob
macrumors 68040
I call fake "rumor".
Just like the last time he left Apple, huh?
You dont seriously think Steve sits in Apple HQ coming up with the ideas do you
If Steve retired today we'd seem a hell of a lot more flexibility across the entire mac and iToy line.
Just like the last time he left Apple, huh?
Fukui
macrumors 68000
Phones ring, hence the need for a button to quickly mute it.
iPads don't ring, but the do get turned on it's side and straight up more than a phone, hence the orientation lock on hardware.
Steve just made his beloved iPad a little less useful...
fpsBeaTt
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Ok, not only are you expressing an opinion contrary to the majority, but you are telling the majority to stop complaining about the removal of a very good function for something that you have no experience with? Could you be any more of a prat?
Ciclismo
macrumors 6502a
Yeah, but what you said was valid enough to be worth posting twice.