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iPad Pro 2

Lack of "Pro" apps aside... I'd really like the iPad Pro to have up to 1TB of storage. When you're doing really "pro" things (heavy editing of 4K videos / RAW photos loaded from your camera comes to mind...), that extra storage makes it a lot easier work with.
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Ghost31 said:
but no way in hell will it have a 256gb option. That crap is expensive
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Flash storage is getting cheaper all the time - but do you mean Apple's pricing structure? If so, then yeah - I do agree that the way they price their products currently would make a 256GB option (and higher) extremely expensive.
 
masotime said:
Lack of "Pro" apps aside... I'd really like the iPad Pro to have up to 1TB of storage. When you're doing really "pro" things (heavy editing of 4K videos / RAW photos loaded from your camera comes to mind...), that extra storage makes it a lot easier work with.
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Flash storage is getting cheaper all the time - but do you mean Apple's pricing structure? If so, then yeah - I do agree that the way they price their products currently would make a 256GB option (and higher) extremely expensive.
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The perception is already that the iPad pro is insanely expensive. Add another storage option and holy crap. The negative press creates a certain narrative that Apple doesn't want right now. For whatever reason, despite tablets being very powerful mobile computers capable of a lot, people see them as dumb devices that should be cheap. That perception needs to change.

I think the next few years for iPad are going to be the biggest years of its life. The most exciting features will be in software updates showing us just how capable iPad is.
 
Ghost31 said:
There will be advancements in the pro 2, but no way in hell will it have a 256gb option. That crap is expensive and they know people are moving more towards cloud services, so less of the population needs more space. I'm sure at some point that size of a storage option will come, but I wouldn't be surprised if it's like 5 years down the road
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Maybe my understanding of cloud services is different from yours, but how is the use of cloud services supposed to help cut down on storage? For example, I use icloud photo library to sync my photos amongst my Apple devices, and this means that my 7gb of photos take up the full space on each of my Apple devices. I am not saving any space here, I use it purely for the convenience aspect.

Likewise, I have quite a few gb of files stored in dropbox, and this is also downloaded to my iPad via the Documents app. Again, I am not saving any space here, and if I want my iPad to mirror my cloud storage, I would need even more storage, not less.

What am I not getting here?
 
Ghost31 said:
The perception is already that the iPad pro is insanely expensive. Add another storage option and holy crap.
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I wouldn't mind it if 256GB was available at the 128GB price point. It's not like Apple couldn't make this option possible.

The negative press creates a certain narrative that Apple doesn't want right now. For whatever reason, despite tablets being very powerful mobile computers capable of a lot, people see them as dumb devices that should be cheap. That perception needs to change.
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Isn't that why it's been tagged with the "Pro" moniker? The whole point was that "Pro" is not a dumb device. I'm actually not sure how limiting the price ceiling of the iPad Pro changes the perception that the "iPad Pro is a dumb device that should be cheap"?

I think the next few years for iPad are going to be the biggest years of its life. The most exciting features will be in software updates showing us just how capable iPad is.
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This I definitely agree... The iPad Pro needs a much larger Pro software ecosystem to properly succeed as a pro device.
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sjleworthy said:
i think the way forward will be cloud storage too, more and more.
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I do like cloud storage, and I do believe wireless is the future, but let's say I'm a professional photographer that's been taking lots of photos and videos all day. I'd like to use my iPad Pro to view and edit the photos. With 4K video and large RAW files, that can easily come to about 40-60GB in a day's photo shoot.

The 128GB suddenly starts to become more and more limiting, and it's not really practical to sync such a large amount of data via the cloud - mobile data speeds aren't really there yet. Even a WiFi transfer becomes cumbersome.

iOS generally requires less space compared to a full desktop OS like OSX, but really, there are many pro applications that require large amounts of space where cloud storage isn't quite there yet, or simply is not applicable. I for one cannot imagine using a MacBook with less than 256GB.

As pro applications grow more and more data intensive (Virtual Reality, medical 3D modeling, 3D printing, etc.) - I think the time is right for an upshift in data storage in general. Perhaps not so much in the "non-Pro" iOS devices, but for the iPad Pro? I think so.

And when I say this, I'm expecting a transition that doesn't introduce a new price category, e.g. 32 -> 128GB, 128GB -> 256GB without changing the current pricing structure.
 
masotime said:
And when I say this, I'm expecting a transition that doesn't introduce a new price category, e.g. 32 -> 128GB, 128GB -> 256GB without changing the current pricing structure.
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I agree but feel the need to remind you: this is the company that currently has a 16gb iPhone. Also debut a "pro" product at 32gb base. They care about profit ALOT to the point where if you don't have the MOST basic needs, they want to upsell you to a more expensive version that probably should've been a base model in the first place.

As I've said before here, I think the iPad pro was a paradigm shift in ways people won't understand for a couple years. We will get real pro apps eventually and they will be huge in size and those people that bought the 32 gig thinking it would be enough for them are going to be in a pretty crappy position. I can only imagine what an iOS version of Final Cut Pro X would do to my free space with 4K video.

The way Apple seems to work in terms of storage and features though is they don't update to what you want until you've been complaining for a long freaking time about it. So like I posted earlier, despite people needing it, I wouldn't be surprised if Apple drags their feet on storage space for the next few years until it becomes a real big problem.

If you're a power user, there are things that might help in the meantime
https://www.reddit.com/r/ipad/comments/37ffod/is_it_possible_to_plug_an_external_hard_drive/
 
I have to say, I'd appreciate a low capacity option with cellular, I'm intending to keep my iPad Air 2 which has the 128GB capacity, so while I'm happy to get the 128GB iPad Pro just for the cellular option, I'm not sure how much I'll actually use that storage! (I tend to watch videos on planes, trains and buses a lot, and the iPad Air 2 screen size seems to be the perfect size for that to me.)
 
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Ghost31 said:
The perception is already that the iPad pro is insanely expensive. Add another storage option and holy crap. The negative press creates a certain narrative that Apple doesn't want right now. For whatever reason, despite tablets being very powerful mobile computers capable of a lot, people see them as dumb devices that should be cheap. That perception needs to change.

I think the next few years for iPad are going to be the biggest years of its life. The most exciting features will be in software updates showing us just how capable iPad is.
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128gb max in their flagship product is too small. Many hybrid devices have 256-512gb...it's rather silly that the iPP doesn't.
 
Its like being back in the 1990's and people saying hard drives will never get any bigger! We have 4k now, we have 12mp cameras, we have high quality apps - we have reasons for the capacity, cloud or no cloud. I might want to record a 10 minute 4k video, what am I meant to do instantly upload it to the cloud?! 375mb per minute is a 4k recording on an iPhone 6s.

The iPad 4 introduced 128GB as a fourth tier priced device (16, 32, 64,128), then Apple kept this for the Air and reduced it for the Air 2 (16, 64, 128). At some point they'll bring in a 256GB option, maybe as a fourth tier or maybe double everything and start at 32GB as a base. This is the real question, will they add a fourth higher priced tier (like they did for the iPad 4) or will they double the current storage options and keep the pricing the same?

As for the iPad Pro I am fine with 128GB but I think it reasonable that if Apple keep the banding then we'll see 64, 256 as iPad Pro options soon enough, even if it is just to stay in touch with Microsoft's Surface range of tablets.
 
Smeaton1724 said:
Its like being back in the 1990's and people saying hard drives will never get any bigger! We have 4k now, we have 12mp cameras, we have high quality apps - we have reasons for the capacity, cloud or no cloud. I might want to record a 10 minute 4k video, what am I meant to do instantly upload it to the cloud?! 375mb per minute is a 4k recording on an iPhone 6s.

The iPad 4 introduced 128GB as a fourth tier priced device (16, 32, 64,128), then Apple kept this for the Air and reduced it for the Air 2 (16, 64, 128). At some point they'll bring in a 256GB option, maybe as a fourth tier or maybe double everything and start at 32GB as a base. This is the real question, will they add a fourth higher priced tier (like they did for the iPad 4) or will they double the current storage options and keep the pricing the same?

As for the iPad Pro I am fine with 128GB but I think it reasonable that if Apple keep the banding then we'll see 64, 256 as iPad Pro options soon enough, even if it is just to stay in touch with Microsoft's Surface range of tablets.
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Nobody ever said Apple wouldn't ever add more storage
 
I wouldn't be surprised if the new iPP (whenever it comes out) has only 64GB and 128GB storage options, and they keep selling the iPP 1 with 32GB as the low-cost option.

Also, as others have said, the apps need to catch up to the hardware.
 
seems to me like there is still a market for an actual pro apple device. some seem happy with the current hardware, others like myself find it totally lacking. i would love to see pencil tech trickle down into the current ipad lineup, and apple release an actual pro level device.

i really want an apple tablet pc. right now, for 1200$, i can get a sony viao Z tablet with a quad core I7, 16gb ram, 512 SSD, with a top of the line screen, 10 hr battery life, stylus. This is a pro machine to me. this thing runs circles around an ipad, shoot its even faster than my cintiq companion 2 (only dual core). only downside is windows 10. im not a fan. competition is a good thing!

http://www.microsoftstore.com/store...gnature-Edition-2-in-1-PC/productID.326191500
 
Dranix said:
Nothing using Windows as os is competition, it's torture. I'll never understand why people use this os without being forced to.
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thats a little ridiculous. i prefer OSX but windows runs all my software just fine. i am forced to run tablet PCs because apple is lacking in the hardware department for my workflow. Ipad pro is really under-powered compared to tablet workstations i owned 5 years ago.... i mean i get it, its good enough for the average consumer, i just really would like to see a real pro device someday from apple.

Im happy the apple hardware is good enough for you. I wish it was good enough for me too!
 
It's difficult to see them improving it much. It's hard to do so with iPads. It's why people don't upgrade as much.
 
The Game 161 said:
It's difficult to see them improving it much. It's hard to do so with iPads. It's why people don't upgrade as much.
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The hardware is so good with the Pro and the software has so much catching up to do that I think it will probably be 3 years before I replace, the only thing I regret is not getting the cellular model.
 
Dranix said:
Nothing using Windows as os is competition, it's torture. I'll never understand why people use this os without being forced to.
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I absolutely love my SP3, and I was extremely close to buying a Dell desktop over an iMac. I find Win10 to be a great platform, and there's a lot of things I can do on my SP3, that the iPad Pro cannot. So for me its not torture :)
 
Dranix said:
Nothing using Windows as os is competition, it's torture. I'll never understand why people use this os without being forced to.
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You can not be more wrong. While I love my iPad Pro and iPad Air 2, they could not replace a real computer for me and many others. To me both iPads are a cherished but for recreational use only.
 
Newtons Apple said:
You can not be more wrong. While I love my iPad Pro and iPad Air 2, they could not replace a real computer for me and many others. To me both iPads are a cherished but for recreational use only.
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It's too subjective an issue for anyone to be "right" or "wrong" about. I don't hate Windows or find using it to be torturous in certain circumstances, but I certainly prefer OSX when I have a choice. The only times I use Windows are when I'm at work or on the rare occasion I want to play a game I can't play on my Mac or Xbox One.

I will say that I found the SP4 to be a pretty terrible experience for me, but I understand why other people would love it and I say more power to them. I'm glad the iPP is here for me, and I'm glad the Surface is around for those who want it. We can all get along, I know it!
 
Newtons Apple said:
You can not be more wrong. While I love my iPad Pro and iPad Air 2, they could not replace a real computer for me and many others. To me both iPads are a cherished but for recreational use only.
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Same here, the lack of desktop quality apps, no mouse and lack of desktop type features (file system) doom the iPad to being a secondary device. That's not to say its a bad product, but for me, it serves a different role then others.

I'm probably fairly certain, I'll be buying an iPad Pro within the next month, for my family, so I think the product is good on a few different fronts, but for needs, it cannot replace a desktop
 
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maflynn said:
Same here, the lack of desktop quality apps, no mouse and lack of desktop type features (file system) doom the iPad to being a secondary device. That's not to say its a bad product, but for me, it serves a different role then others.

I'm probably fairly certain, I'll be buying an iPad Pro within the next month, for my family, so I think the product is good on a few different fronts, but for needs, it cannot replace a desktop
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You will love the iPPro! The only think I do not like about it is that it ruined my iPad Air 2 experience in the filed but the Air 2 is a bit more easy to carry from job to job!

Enjoy, Sir!
 
We only have iPad minis in our house, so this will be a huge difference.
 
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