iPad Pro - Buyer's Remorse Anyone?

[sracer]

My company is actually super iPad friendly--they have worked really hard to get all of our internally developed stuff on iOS, and there are iOS versions of all our other software available on iPad as well. They encourage us to use our smartphones and tablets and even let us use our Office 365 licenses on our iPads if we want to.

But I do have the same issue with VPN and I also have worries that if I show up to meetings with just my iPad Pro, I'll be asked to do something it can't do. The chances of that happening are slim, but it's still possible.

I do think though that some day my company is going to get to the point where we really can work 100% from our iPads. For now though, I will have to lug along that Windows 7 Dell.

Where I work, everyone has their own virtual machine accessed via a zero client. Some of us have a physical CPU under our desk as well. I take my Pro to meetings and when I need to do something that can't be done natively on it, I'll remotely connect to my virtual machine or desktop and take it from there. The only sticking point has been the lack of mouse support for those remote sessions.

Love being able to tote my iPP rather than a notebook to meetings.

 

[jetjaguar]

man unlimited LTE data on the 12.9 must be total beast mode,

It is! I use it so much streaming on my commute.

 

[rowspaxe]

If Apple was ambivalent about it, they wouldn't have bothered with the Pro. Apple is looking ahead to a whole generation of users (such as my kids) that will expect to work on devices like this. I predict that now that they have the power and the Smart Connector, iOS is going to start looking much different on iPad.

The idea that "whole generation of users" is going to be satisfied doing audio and video editing, spreadsheets and document creation without a pointer device or file system is ludicrous. If apple wasn't ambivalant, they wouldn't have waded into the productivity area with such a weak entry. I am not saying IOS could not be reformed to provide a viable working platform, I just find it hard to believe apple will do it or developers of professional applications will support it.
How many qwerty keyboard replacements have been promoted over the last 30 years to no effect. The mouse and keyboard will be around for your kids kids

 

[spiderman0616]

Where I work, everyone has their own virtual machine accessed via a zero client. Some of us have a physical CPU under our desk as well. I take my Pro to meetings and when I need to do something that can't be done natively on it, I'll remotely connect to my virtual machine or desktop and take it from there. The only sticking point has been the lack of mouse support for those remote sessions.

Love being able to tote my iPP rather than a notebook to meetings.

We used to have Citrix virtual desktops and you could use your iPhone as a mouse trackpad via a Bluetooth connection, and then the onscreen keyboard or an attached keyboard for input. I was sad when they got rid of that because it came in handy several times.

 

[colonelbutt]

Still trying to get RDP to work. When I can use my raspberry pi desktop on the pro I will be complete

 

[tarasis]

I got mine as a present from my wife, so I don't exactly have buyers remorse BUT somehow I didn't pickup the fact the the top section of the screen is brighter than the bottom section (held in portrait, right brighter in Landscape) until after the deadline for returning it would have been (and honestly my wife would have killed me if I had) and its beginning to really drive me nuts.

I find I can't switch my mind off to it, so even just glancing at the screen I can see that white text that should be the same brightness on both sides of the screen is clearly stronger on the bottom (or right in Landscape) but I'm well aware that if I try and take it in to see about an exchange they will not notice under the lights of the Apple Store.

 

[James.K.Polk]

I got mine as a present from my wife, so I don't exactly have buyers remorse BUT somehow I didn't pickup the fact the the top section of the screen is brighter than the bottom section (held in portrait, right brighter in Landscape) until after the deadline for returning it would have been (and honestly my wife would have killed me if I had) and its beginning to really drive me nuts.

I find I can't switch my mind off to it, so even just glancing at the screen I can see that white text that should be the same brightness on both sides of the screen is clearly stronger on the bottom (or right in Landscape) but I'm well aware that if I try and take it in to see about an exchange they will not notice under the lights of the Apple Store.

Genius bar *might* fix it, but in my experience, issues like this are hit-and-miss depending on Genius. I had a splotchy Macbook screen and it took me 2 trips to get it fixed. Physical defects are obviously much easier.

 

[MacDevil7334]

I find I can't switch my mind off to it, so even just glancing at the screen I can see that white text that should be the same brightness on both sides of the screen is clearly stronger on the bottom (or right in Landscape) but I'm well aware that if I try and take it in to see about an exchange they will not notice under the lights of the Apple Store.

It depends on how much the brightness difference is. If it's glaring, they should replace it no questions asked. I have gotten an iPad replaced for uneven backlighting before and it wasn't too difficult (book spine shadow problem with the original Air). I did have to ask the genius to take it into the back because of the bright lights and he saw the problem immediately. So, you can definitely do that if they don't see the problem at first.

Being polite with a genius can get you a very long way. Keep in mind that he/she has dealt with quite a few customers that day, some of whom were likely rude/entitled. It definitely can't hurt to try taking it in, especially if it's bothering you that much. Good luck!

 

[eyeseeyou]

Kind of wishing I could swap back to the 9.7 ipp from the 12.9 ipp

 

[Hal~9000]

Kind of wishing I could swap back to the 9.7 ipp from the 12.9 ipp

You mean for the portability factor?

As much as I can admire the 12.9 it's too damn unwieldy for me. I really like both options of either A) using it on the table as a computer or B) disconnecting it from the keyboard and holding it in two hands (using my thumbs to navigate while I hold the device steady).

I was already leaning towards the 9.7 for the better screen, weight, and price but the fact that Apple purposely disabled the split keyboard in the 12.9 made it a no-go as it is impossible to use via option B above.

 

[Macbook14in]

iPad Air 2 can do pretty much everythig that iPad Pro can. Unless u really want to use Apple Pencil, yeah its a waste of money. Unless youre really rich, better return it.

 

[eyeseeyou]

You mean for the portability factor?

Exactly. I'm not looking for a macbook replacement and until there is an iOS version of the design applications I use(photoshop/illustrator) there is no workaround.

IMO the 12.9 is too big to be a casual, mobile, media consumption device which for me is what I use tablets for.

For my use case even as a second monitor for my macbook when I'm mobile the 12.9, with a case on it, adds a noticeable amount of weight in my backpack.

May be a matter of time before I start shopping it around for someone who would rather have a 12.9 ipp than a 9.7 ipp.

 

[loon3y]

the Air 2 was a big significant upgrade in terms of ram , processor, etc etc.


i think its going to last for quite a while.

 

[Skika]

iPad Air 2 can do pretty much everythig that iPad Pro can. Unless u really want to use Apple Pencil, yeah its a waste of money. Unless youre really rich, better return it.

Im not rich but upgrading from an Air1 the Pro was a much better choice for me. I really appreciate the absence of screen glare and audio that isnt abysmal. A faster cpu and gpu, truetone, pencil and camera are just a nice bonus.

 

[blcfla]

Im not rich but upgrading from an Air1 the Pro was a much better choice for me. I really appreciate the absence of screen glare and audio that isnt abysmal. A faster cpu and gpu, truetone, pencil and camera are just a nice bonus.

I just did the same thing, went from 32gb to 128gb as well. Didn't think I'd really notice as drastic of a difference as I did. It's speedy and love the screen and speakers. Got to the point I wasn't using the Air much because it felt so slow compared to my iPhone 6s.

 

[HiFiGuy528]

I rarely sell any newly released Apple products, but the 12" iPad Pro was a disappointment. IMHO, it can NOT replace a laptop. iOS is too dumbed down to do any real work. I tried every keyboard cases on the market and all were a compromised typing experience and HEAVY. Reaching up to the screen to scroll and edit text is slow and not user friendly. I also hated the smudges and finger prints on the screen.

For the price of top model, you can get the more capable MacBook which is what I replaced 12" iPad Pro with, 2016 pink MB.

 

[Night Spring]

I tried every keyboard cases on the market and all were a compromised typing experience and HEAVY.

Didn't you try the Smart Keyboard?

 

[Nhwhazup]

No buyers remorse for me. I really like my iPad Pro 9.7. I had a few iPads along the way since the original and this is the best by far. I live the Pencil and the ASK.

 

[HiFiGuy528]

Didn't you try the Smart Keyboard?

yes, it's a terrible product by Apple standards. There are no keys to simple settings like screen brightness, volume, etc. The cover is clumsy to open and close. The iPad flops over when used outside of a table or solid surface. The weight is lightest, but the combined weight of 12" iPad + back cover + Smart keyboard weights more than 2016 MacBook.

 

[masotime]

The weight is lightest, but the combined weight of 12" iPad + back cover + Smart keyboard weights more than 2016 MacBook.

This isn't a fair comparison. Both run different operating systems - OS X is more capable, but iOS is specifically touch-optimized with built-in Apple Pencil support, optional cellular connectivity and a capable rear camera module.

In addition, and perhaps the biggest reason for the weight difference - the 12.9" iPad Pro has 30% more display area than the 12" MacBook, it is sharper (by 17%, 264 PPI vs 226PPI) with more pixels (by 69%, 2732 x 2048 vs 2304 x 1440).

 

[James.K.Polk]

Allow me to gush for a minute...

Studying for the USPTO patent bar exam (starting law school in the fall, but a scientist now). To have a practice exam on one side and the MPEP on the other, where I can write and highlight each, is absolutely AMAZING.

My only "remorse" is that the iPad has some splotchiness down the left side. I'm sure I can/will get it replaced, it's just unfortunate as the Apple Store is a hike for me. This. is. awesome.

 

[tarasis]

This isn't a fair comparison. Both run different operating systems - OS X is more capable, but iOS is specifically touch-optimized with built-in Apple Pencil support, optional cellular connectivity and a capable rear camera module.

In addition, and perhaps the biggest reason for the weight difference - the 12.9" iPad Pro has 30% more display area than the 12" MacBook, it is sharper (by 17%, 264 PPI vs 226PPI) with more pixels (by 69%, 2732 x 2048 vs 2304 x 1440).

You apparently missed that the poster was comparing only the WEIGHT, not the specs, screen sizes, image quality or anything else. Simply the weight of the items combined was heavier than a MacBook.

 

[masotime]

You apparently missed that the poster was comparing only the WEIGHT, not the specs, screen sizes, image quality or anything else. Simply the weight of the items combined was heavier than a MacBook.

Very well, let me put it another way.

Would you really expect a device with 30% larger screen area, higher resolution, sharper resolution, touch screen, Pencil support, front and back camera modules, better speakers, comparable battery life and CPU performance, cellular support, similar number of ports and when paired with a keyboard to be lighter than a MacBook?

Put it again in another way. The 15" MacBook Pro also has 30% more screen area than the 13" MacBook Pro. Do you really expect the 15" MacBook Pro to be lighter than the 13" MacBook Pro?

That's what I mean by "not a fair comparison".

 

[loon3y]

I rarely sell any newly released Apple products, but the 12" iPad Pro was a disappointment. IMHO, it can NOT replace a laptop. iOS is too dumbed down to do any real work. I tried every keyboard cases on the market and all were a compromised typing experience and HEAVY. Reaching up to the screen to scroll and edit text is slow and not user friendly. I also hated the smudges and finger prints on the screen.

For the price of top model, you can get the more capable MacBook which is what I replaced 12" iPad Pro with, 2016 pink MB.

It really works well with our B2B app we give to your customers, we didn't do any modifications for it but how the app was set up + the smart keyboard it works nicely.

Main thing is the keyboard not the pen (in our situation for now), searching products or customers by whatever criteria is much easier rather then typing these things on the screen of a 9.7 iPad. Plus you don't lose the screen real estate if a buyer is looking a the details while your typing.

iOS isn't dumbed down the apps just need to be revised to really fit in the real world. The real problem among developers is that what their developing isn't realistic until its out there for a couple years and gain some knowledge.

iOS is incredibly powerful, just because of 'flash' or a lack of MINI SD port isn't everything, its actually nothing (ones a hardware issue).


We have an illustrator type app that we have that acts a semi photo utility app that our customer use for design, modifications, tech packs, or simply uploading pictures of the product/sketches/documents, documents of orders/POs/Invoices, to our main ERP system.


iOS is definitely ready and it seems to be the main mobile OS for the work industry as what Windows was for Desktop operating systems.

Its what developers make and what apps you download where you can replace the laptop/notebook. It depends on what you do in your field.


One big step into what'll change the game is if they perfect the touchscreen so that rigorous data entry would be at ease with the assistance of a tablet keyboard. This is already semi-addressed with a Surface Pro, but Surface Pro is basically just an overpower laptop with a touchscreen so i really can't truly consider it.

Hell I'm sure Windows Mobile OS is just a shell of Windows 10/8.1

 

[Michael Goff]

No remorse here.