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I know what the OP is feeling. I moved from an iPad 4th generation to the 128 GB LTE 12.9" iPad Pro. I bought the pencil and the keyboard. I still have the AT&T Unlimited Data Plan so mine had to be LTE. I'm never giving that plan up. The first few days, it did just seem to be nothing more than bigger. Was it worth $1.5k?

As I started using features, like the pencil, the split screen, and the keyboard, I knew that I made the right decision. I wouldn't go back.
 
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I have started getting buyer's remorse about a lot of stuff lately. It seems like the Internet hates just about every tech product that launches. If you want to feel good about a purchase, you have to stay far away from comments sections and message boards, especially this one. The people here are so entitled and miserable about every Apple product I wonder why the even bother coming here most of the time.

People are so negative in general though, I've already talked myself out of two future purchases this year--one of them being PlayStation VR. I need to either quit reading so much about tech or quit caring about it.

Very well said, everyone is buying and hating.
Agree with you, but there are some positive and informative threads here as well.
 
In a perfect world I'd have zero complaints if it matched the starting price of all previous 9.7 iPads, or if the usb3 and ram of the other pro had been matched in this model (this is personal preference I know, but I would rather have an excess of ram for future software demands than better speakers or cameras). Hell even if I was just in the states and the price hike was only $100 and not the $250 it ended up being in Canada.

All that said, in this imperfect world of compromise, I know what I wanted it for (a portable digital sketchbook), and on that count it lives up to my expectations 100%. And it's a nice light tablet to boot. So no remorse.
 
I really think there is a massive difference between the 9.7 and the 12.9 and they should really be discussed in a different thread.
Although the 9.7 pro is brighter, sharper, faster and better it's just more of the same, with the pen of course.
Whilst the 12.9 is a new paradigm. Neither laptop or iPad but someone can do the same of both with more flexibility, usability and aplomb.
I think the days of the small laptop are numbered myself
 
Whilst the 12.9 is a new paradigm. Neither laptop or iPad but someone can do the same of both with more flexibility, usability and aplomb.

Hmm, whilst I appreciate the abilities of the 12.9", that statement is incredibly subjective. It inevitably varies from person to person, but in my case using a large iPad instead of a small laptop offers less flexibility and less usability. Portability and ease of access for certain tasks, and obviously design/art related exercises it smokes a laptop, but otherwise it's all very much a "diet" laptop. Which is absolutely fine for lots of people, but also totally inadequate for many others.

I really like the iPad, but when I hear iPad evangelists trumpet the abilities of it as a complete laptop replacement, followed by the long list of workarounds they need to do to achieve this, I think....hmm, sounds like a pita and it's hardly efficient is it?

I'm not suggesting the 12.9" isn't a highly capable device, but it's incredibly limited for myriad purposes and the imminent demise of the laptop is exaggerated. A smart keyboard is a good accessory, but absolutely pales in comparison to a good keyboard and large trackpad for general usability. The iPP, large or small, is a pretty awful experience when using the smart keyboard on your lap. I've little doubt that large tablets will catch up over time in this regard, but so long as the interface is mimicking laptops and not introducing an entirely new control paradigm that betters traditional keyboard and trackpad, it's always going to be a compromise. No interest in a Surface Book personally, but that's where everything is probably headed, albeit in a much more streamlined form.
 
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Hmm, whilst I appreciate the abilities of the 12.9", that statement is incredibly subjective. It inevitably varies from person to person, but in my case using a large iPad instead of a small laptop offers less flexibility and less usability. Portability and ease of access for certain tasks, and obviously design/art related exercises it smokes a laptop, but otherwise it's all very much a "diet" laptop. Which is absolutely fine for lots of people, but also totally inadequate for many others.

I really like the iPad, but when I hear iPad evangelists trumpet the abilities of it as a complete laptop replacement, followed by the long list of workarounds they need to do to achieve this, I think....hmm, sounds like a pita and it's hardly efficient is it?

I'm not suggesting the 12.9" isn't a highly capable device, but it's incredibly limited for myriad purposes and the imminent demise of the laptop is exaggerated. A smart keyboard is a good accessory, but absolutely pales in comparison to a good keyboard and large trackpad for general usability. The iPP, large or small, is a pretty awful experience when using the smart keyboard on your lap. I've little doubt that large tablets will catch up over time in this regard, but so long as the interface is mimicking laptops and not introducing an entirely new control paradigm that betters traditional keyboard and trackpad, it's always going to be a compromise. No interest in a Surface Book personally, but that's where everything is probably headed, albeit in a much more streamlined form.
I have switched to using the iPad Pro as my main computer, and honestly, there are a lot less compromises than there used to be. The biggest pain can be moving files around to where they need to be, but honestly, it's not much more of a pain than what I used to do with Finder. Just different. In fact, every time I think I've finally found a deal breaker that makes it so I still need a computer, I find out there actually is a way to do it on iPad. I have two tasks I do on the iPad that I would consider to be fairly annoying workarounds, but even those two things only take a few seconds.

In this way, I still kind of liken it to a full blown Mac or PC as far as simple vs. complex. I'm willing to bet most of the iPad users I know have no idea what the share sheet is or how to use any of those extensions or that they're even there in the first place. They certainly don't know about Workflow or other utilities that make life on the iPad easier. But for people who want to use it for more complex tasks, those options are there. I know I'm generalizing a bit, but I really just think for the most part, for power users, it's a matter of thinking differently about processes. And I do acknowledge that for other users, the iPad is just not good enough to get all their daily things done.
 
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I know what you mean re: processes, there's a thin line between the attitude of "it's inferior" when subconsciously it may be more "I'm not willing to change". Yet when I'm in an environment where I have easy access to, say, my mbp for a similar task, I'll reach for it most of the time as a lot of things are so much quicker to do with less steps to take. Never leaves the house mind, I love my iPP 9.7" on the go and the Smart Keyboard has proved much better than I thought it'd be. Needs looooads more shortcuts though, can't believe so few have been added since the large iPP appeared last year.

The couple of weeks I had with the 12.9" confirmed my suspicions about my opinion of touch screens on laptops, and their notable absence on macs. I find it unergonomic and unnatural for anything beyond the occasional tap. A large, highly responsive trackpad is so much better for quick, accurate navigation in that position. Think it was a more welcome advancement on Windows laptops because, with a couple of exceptions, trackpads on those were woeful for such a long time compared with on the Mac. Many times I've seen people with travel mice sitting next to non-Mac laptops in coffee shops, and the need for this boggles my mind. I believe trackpads are better now on Windows laptops these days though, and I'm a Windows (mostly for gaming) & Mac user so I'm not championing the tired old argument of Apple = better. I did briefly consider a Surface Pro 4, but the lack of LTE option (still!) and the rather worrying number of growing pains I've heard about killed that idea.
 
I know what you mean re: processes, there's a thin line between the attitude of "it's inferior" when subconsciously it may be more "I'm not willing to change". Yet when I'm in an environment where I have easy access to, say, my mbp for a similar task, I'll reach for it most of the time as a lot of things are so much quicker to do with less steps to take. Never leaves the house mind, I love my iPP 9.7" on the go and the Smart Keyboard has proved much better than I thought it'd be. Needs looooads more shortcuts though, can't believe so few have been added since the large iPP appeared last year.

The couple of weeks I had with the 12.9" confirmed my suspicions about my opinion of touch screens on laptops, and their notable absence on macs. I find it unergonomic and unnatural for anything beyond the occasional tap. A large, highly responsive trackpad is so much better for quick, accurate navigation in that position. Think it was a more welcome advancement on Windows laptops because, with a couple of exceptions, trackpads on those were woeful for such a long time compared with on the Mac. Many times I've seen people with travel mice sitting next to non-Mac laptops in coffee shops, and the need for this boggles my mind. I believe trackpads are better now on Windows laptops these days though, and I'm a Windows (mostly for gaming) & Mac user so I'm not championing the tired old argument of Apple = better. I did briefly consider a Surface Pro 4, but the lack of LTE option (still!) and the rather worrying number of growing pains I've heard about killed that idea.
With the keyboard I think I'm at an advantage here, because I have never been a keyboard shortcut guy. In fac,t I have never been a CMD+Tab user until I got the iPad Pro. I don't know why.
 
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Hmm, whilst I appreciate the abilities of the 12.9", that statement is incredibly subjective. It inevitably varies from person to person, but in my case using a large iPad instead of a small laptop offers less flexibility and less usability. Portability and ease of access for certain tasks, and obviously design/art related exercises it smokes a laptop, but otherwise it's all very much a "diet" laptop. Which is absolutely fine for lots of people, but also totally inadequate for many others.

I really like the iPad, but when I hear iPad evangelists trumpet the abilities of it as a complete laptop replacement, followed by the long list of workarounds they need to do to achieve this, I think....hmm, sounds like a pita and it's hardly efficient is it?

I'm not suggesting the 12.9" isn't a highly capable device, but it's incredibly limited for myriad purposes and the imminent demise of the laptop is exaggerated. A smart keyboard is a good accessory, but absolutely pales in comparison to a good keyboard and large trackpad for general usability. The iPP, large or small, is a pretty awful experience when using the smart keyboard on your lap. I've little doubt that large tablets will catch up over time in this regard, but so long as the interface is mimicking laptops and not introducing an entirely new control paradigm that betters traditional keyboard and trackpad, it's always going to be a compromise. No interest in a Surface Book personally, but that's where everything is probably headed, albeit in a much more streamlined form.

I agree with you and I don't

I think it's a matter of application

If I am editing my photographs or playing games, nothing has ever come near my main desktop which I refresh frequently

However for documents, notes, web browsing, email, photo display, magazines, newspapers, the majority of spreadsheets, word processing, reference material, etc. the iPad Pro is not just "as good as" but IMHO actually better and more flexible and easier to use and better battery life then a laptop.

Horses for courses but at least now there is more and better choice .....
 
No remorse here. I went to the store looked at both Pros & iPad Air 2. After careful consideration of my needs I felt a 64GB Air 2 would be a substantial upgrade from my Air 1. I got a deal on an open box, picked up a case & am happily enjoying my new toy.
 
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However for documents, notes, web browsing, email, photo display, magazines, newspapers, the majority of spreadsheets, word processing, reference material, etc. the iPad Pro is not just "as good as" but IMHO actually better and more flexible and easier to use and better battery life then a laptop.

This is clearly subjective. While I agree somethings are easy on a tablet, working on documents and reference material, for me anyway, is not anywhere near just as good as a desktop or laptop. The fact I can't have two instances of an app open is a severe handicap - I do this all the time. Clunky file handling (having to export to other apps or ending up with multiple copies of documents) is a big hinderance. There is tremendous potential for this and I'm sure as iOS continues to evolve some of these issues will be addressed - but it's not there yet for some depending on how you work.
 
This is clearly subjective. While I agree somethings are easy on a tablet, working on documents and reference material, for me anyway, is not anywhere near just as good as a desktop or laptop. The fact I can't have two instances of an app open is a severe handicap - I do this all the time. Clunky file handling (having to export to other apps or ending up with multiple copies of documents) is a big hinderance. There is tremendous potential for this and I'm sure as iOS continues to evolve some of these issues will be addressed - but it's not there yet for some depending on how you work.
I think many are assuming this is never going to change. I think iOS 10 is going to change the equation for even more people. If Apple is truly marketing this device as a laptop replacement, they have to put their money where their mouth is. iOS is the key here.
 
I think many are assuming this is never going to change. I think iOS 10 is going to change the equation for even more people. If Apple is truly marketing this device as a laptop replacement, they have to put their money where their mouth is. iOS is the key here.

I hope so - there is tremendous upside that could be realized with some enhancements to iOS.
 
I think many are assuming this is never going to change. I think iOS 10 is going to change the equation for even more people. If Apple is truly marketing this device as a laptop replacement, they have to put their money where their mouth is. iOS is the key here.
Apple seems ambivalant about making the ipp a laptop replacement. I cant imagine any productivity task
outside of document mark up and drawing/design that can be done better on a tablet than a laptop.
If Apple revises the ipp and ios to support true hybrid functionality, i'd be impressed. But isn't this what Tim Cook has been forswearing for the last 4 years? Seems unlikely
 
Apple seems ambivalant about making the ipp a laptop replacement. I cant imagine any productivity task
outside of document mark up and drawing/design that can be done better on a tablet than a laptop.
If Apple revises the ipp and ios to support true hybrid functionality, i'd be impressed. But isn't this what Tim Cook has been forswearing for the last 4 years? Seems unlikely
If Apple was ambivalent about it, they wouldn't have bothered with the Pro. Apple is looking ahead to a whole generation of users (such as my kids) that will expect to work on devices like this. I predict that now that they have the power and the Smart Connector, iOS is going to start looking much different on iPad.
 
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Not me. I bought the 12.9" pro for use in my work as a teacher as a virtual whiteboard as well as a digital math notebook and it has exceeded my expectations.
 
Not me. I bought the 12.9" pro for use in my work as a teacher as a virtual whiteboard as well as a digital math notebook and it has exceeded my expectations.
Mine has not only exceeded my expectations, but keeps impressing me more every passing week. While my employer still requires me to have a work issued laptop, my personal computing does not require that. Therefore, I don't think I'll ever again need to buy my own laptop or desktop PC.

I'm taking a business trip in a couple of weeks and almost sort of resent the fact that I have to bring my old work laptop with me. I'm sure I could get everything done on my iPad Pro.
 
I'm taking a business trip in a couple of weeks and almost sort of resent the fact that I have to bring my old work laptop with me. I'm sure I could get everything done on my iPad Pro.
Agree completely. My company won't allow iPad VPN connections to the network - if they did I could do most of my work on the iPad Pro.
 
Agree completely. My company won't allow iPad VPN connections to the network - if they did I could do most of my work on the iPad Pro.
My company is actually super iPad friendly--they have worked really hard to get all of our internally developed stuff on iOS, and there are iOS versions of all our other software available on iPad as well. They encourage us to use our smartphones and tablets and even let us use our Office 365 licenses on our iPads if we want to.

But I do have the same issue with VPN and I also have worries that if I show up to meetings with just my iPad Pro, I'll be asked to do something it can't do. The chances of that happening are slim, but it's still possible.

I do think though that some day my company is going to get to the point where we really can work 100% from our iPads. For now though, I will have to lug along that Windows 7 Dell.
 
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